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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-22, 19:52
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Already in Finland there were people who ordered from DNA webstore a week ago and received Jollas before people in Finland who had pre-ordered from Jolla in May.
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-22, 19:50
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-20, 08:23
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Hear hear! Good recap lupastro.

All I want to add to that is this suggestion: Jolla, please respect the pre-order priority next time that you didn't now do. Respecting the queue is very valuable...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-19, 12:43
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

You don't think complaints are relative? You don't think one problem can be lesser - and less complained - than some other? Trust me, I've seen enough pre-order schemes to know not respecting the...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-19, 12:24
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

When people registered, Jolla promised - on many occasions - to respect the pre-order priority. They have not. Orders from May are still not delivered while orders from September have been delivered....
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-19, 12:20
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

It was never 3-4 weeks from December 2nd, but from the date of final order (when people randomly finally got their webstore invites, which didn't come in pre-order order). So for most people 4 weeks...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 21:41
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Are you saying Jolla wouldn't have lived if they'd given out information, though? I doubt you really think that.

Improved communications would have mended many fences in this case.

Anyway, I...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 20:57
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

...and not only that, Jolla didn't respect the pre-order order they promised to (not for webshop invites nor for actual shippings), so people who ordered their phones in September got them earlier...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 19:29
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

I can understand your frustration, I actually think it is similarly frustrating to read messages like yours in response time and time again. Wouldn't it be nicer if everyone just shared my opinion?...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 18:46
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

I think we should not ask free stuff of Jolla, they are startup and we can understand that part. I think most of us do want to support Jolla.

But asking for information and, originally, to respect...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 18:34
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Yes, your story is unfortunately a good summary: not respecting the pre-order priority (a May order not yet shipped, think of it) and then no communication. Not a good combo.

If it helps at all,...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 17:34
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Much of the frustration here has been not knowing what is going on. When people get information, any kind that feels solid, that buys time and goodwill. Had Jolla kept a blog or microblog about the...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 13:50
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Mobiili magazine has managed an interview: http://mobiili.fi/2013/12/18/jolla-pienimaki-myyntiintulo/ According to it the main delay was a order system related one.

I don't like the way Jolla's...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 11:08
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

As I've understood, the Jolla order notification process goes like this:

1) First hint is that the order goes from Paid to In Picking. This is the one big bit of really good news, others are not...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-18, 09:03
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Some Finnish reports say that Jolla might have finally gotten to the 3xxx level in the webstore order sequence. There are still plenty of people stuck at Paid, though - including first wave orders.
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 17:11
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

It is true that the order sequence seems quite random, although web store order number has some relevance it seems - most under-1500 seem to be under way from both sequences, whereas many over-3000...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 11:19
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Great post, caprico.

Yours is a perfect example why this stuff shoudln't be left in any kind of venting thread. There is a lot of information about your order process, the dates, order number,...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 10:56
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Sure they do. And it is very frustrating if you have a specific request that doesn't fall in line with their script.

Then again, Amazon and the likes have industry standard machines of order...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 10:54
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

It does go vice-versa, you could have ranted on the venting thread.

But I personally think it is more useful to keep this thread about Jolla order tracking in general (including all kinds of...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 10:39
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

This is true. However, it would have been one thing to send all LE The Other Halves in one go. Now that most have gotten them in their shipment and only some haven't, it seems a little strange and...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 10:37
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Who are you to call people whining? Jolla already failed to respect the priority order. People being concerned and asking for more specific information to alleviate their concerns on the shipping...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 10:18
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

The December 12th mail from Jolla said that all the Jollas are in Finland, so I don't think they have run out.

The international text was a little different, as was noted here a few pages back,...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 09:16
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

That is definitely not the order they are following though, if they are trying to imply an order. Second wave orders have shipped while some day 1, wave 1 orders haven't.
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-17, 09:11
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

There are many people from the first wave who are still stuck in Paid (even though they paid promptly at the webstore) while second wave shipments have already happened. They didn't follow the...
Forum: Jolla1 & TOH 2013-12-16, 22:09
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Posted By epmt
Re: Jolla tracking numbers

Fair post, att. Thank you for clarifications.



This is why I think it is important to give Jolla feedback. I'm not sure early adopters dismissing the comms woes as business as usual or just...
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