Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Soo... just got my N800 yesterday.
As soon as i received it, did an upgrade to os2008, Ver 2.2007.51-3 to resolve the power on problem that most people are having on this board.

However, i started noticing some problem right off the bat.
- Applications are not quitting properly, a prompt came up asking to close the application. If you click OK, the application just stayed there and will never quit. This is happening mostly on Nokia Applications (App mgr, browser, skype, media player, file mgr)
- Browser crashed very frequently - when loading pages or adding bookmarks. Same symptoms as above.
- Applications always fail to install if i have an SD card in the external slot. This is a non-sdhc 2GB card.

I did a reflash several times and issues always come back the minute i start using the device after a reflash.

What aggravates me the most if the application instability on this. Do i just have a bad unit or something??

Can anyone share any insight on these problems? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I've has no real problems with my N800 (other than a touchscreen calibration at the bottom of the screen), but since I've installed 51-3 I've had numerous Application Manager crashes and a roboot loop...

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All I can say these problems do not sound "normal". If you have a chance I'd recommend exchanging the unit.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Would i be able to take it to a nokia store instead of sending it off to nokia?

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Sounds distinctly like the internal card is corrupted, explains just about everything if you're using swap. Format it and get back to us.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Seconded. I recently had my internal memory card become corrupt--while using virtual memory--and it caused similar crashes and some truly bizarre behaviour.

Please do give the General's suggestion a try before you go to the trouble of contacting Nokia for a repair or replacement.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I have nothing on the internal SD slot if that's what you're talking about. Unless you're talking about a different thing? I don't even have virtual memory on.

Every time i put a 4gb sdhc in my N800, it could never be recognized. It just said memory card corrupted and need to be repaired. If i tried to format it using the file manager, it would get stuck at the "Formatting memory card" bar for a while and the whole device stopped responding.

The whole application crash occurs even when there is no SD card at all on all slots.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Did you buy it from the Nokia store? Do you have the receipt? Is it less than 7 (maybe 14?) days since the date of purchase? If yes... then you may be able to exchange it there... (I do not know your store return policies... but these are pretty common amongst most retailers...)

Otherwise, your only hope is to return to Nokia and wait... :(

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Didn't buy it from Nokia store, unfortunately. Bought it from my friend who decided he is not using it as often as he'd like to.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Bad luck... :( Maybe that's the reason why he has not used it that often any more...

Maybe it has been dropped or something, and now there is some bad contact or bad solder joint causing these issues? Do you see any pattern if the tablet is cold or warm, if it works any better?

You can check if the tablet is still under warranty from Nokia web site... (sorry, no link but you should be able to find it...) They will ask your tablet SN (WiFi MAC address) and can tell if it is less than 1 year old since day of manufacturing...

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

- if you just recv'd the unit yesterday, why did you upgrade? it was a very minor upgrade and if your unit did not experience a 'power on' problem then there was no need to upgrade...

- btw, i have not experienced any 'power on' problem w/either of my units (one running os2007 and the other os2008)...

- sorry to hear that you are having problems though... i'd be upset too, but would rather try others' suggestions here...

- i'm also surprised your 'friend' didn't include the 128MB SDHC that came stock with the n800?

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

In case you really believe it is the latest OS2008 that is causing the problems... what prevents you to flash to earlier OS version?

You can download all the OS versions released for N800 from:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php

(After you feed your SN, it will show you available OS files.)

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I flashed it because i did encounter the power on issue. Wouldn't boot until re moved the batter for afew mins, the plug the charger for a fw mins then it came back on. Weird thing is that... on that older firmware, file manager was also having trouble formatting card placed on either slots.

I then flashed it to the newer firmware hoping the problem would go away and to clean up the device. Apparently it introduces the application crash issue in addition to the fact that it still could not format my sd card (it's showing as corrupted).

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I'll throw out a couple ideas:
-Did you restore a backup from a previous install?
-Have you installed many non-Nokia applications? What applications have you installed, especially beta applications like Modest and the new RTCOMM stuff?
-How many applications are you starting at once?
-How long has it been on before you see applications not quitting?

-John

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Thanks for all the reply guys, it helps me trying to narrow down what the issue is with this thing...

- I did not restore a backup, i have none.
- Non-nokia application: Bluetooth-PAN, Claws, LXDoom, ScummVM, MPlayer, rdesktop. Pretty much it...
- I was just running one app when the whole thing stopped responding
- Applications would stop responding at random times. I've seen it immediately crashing within a few minutes of booting the N800.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

Right now, i just finished booting my N800, trying to open the memory from Control Panel but would not open. Control panel is now just blank. Pressing the close button gives me "Control panel is not responding. Close application?". I clicked ok, and the control panel is still there, not closing.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

ur itablet is toast. contact nokia and beg for mercy.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

mine is unstable with recent firmware as well. even browser crashes every 5 mins. tried fresh reinstall 2 nite and still the same.

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So, otjandra:

You bought this from your friend, who didn't use it much, but didn't have any particular problems? Then, the minute you bought it, you started noticing it had the power on problem? I wonder why your friend didn't have that problem?

How long had your friend had it? You can still try to get Nokia to take it back. Maybe your friend should try to take it back, unless he got it from a friend too.

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Actually, come to think of it, my N800 with the latest OS has been acting funny as well, only since I upgraded it. The volume level when I was jogging just now went from low to high without my intervention. I had the screen and all turned off via the hardware menu.
This happened several times, not just once. This has NEVER happened to me, in the other hundred or so times I've been jogging with it. The other weird thing that happened BEFORE I went jogging is that when I ran YouAmp, the sound came through the speakers EVEN THOUGH I HAD HEADPHONES PLUGGED IN. I couldn't fix that, but changing to another media player (MediaBox, I think it was) got rid of that problem, but later is when I had the volume-changing problem.

I'm using that app "powerlaunch", for what it's worth.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I'm having the same problem with the lastest os release. Application manager has "internal error", control panel is flakey. I guess all software is beta, lol. Oh well. Is it possible to flash back to previous version?

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

I just reflashed to the newest version of OS2008 (N810). The application manager crashes with the "internal error" after installing every application. It is quite annoying. Running hildon-application-manager from the terminal shows that it spits a segmentation fault and therefore crashes. Bad programming?

I'm gonna try to reflash again and if it still gives me same grief I'll go back to previous version of OS2008.

Cheers,
-Igs

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

It's fixed in Diablo.

Re: Latest OS2008 on N800 Unstable :(
 

FWIW, the complaints I listed in this thread seem to have gone away. I don't remember having done anything to correct them. Maybe the electrons were wobbling too much.