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Laughing Man 2009-11-06 01:36

Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Is there anyone who has the n900 that has lots of emails (100+) that are being synced via IMAP? How is the performance on that, and once its synced, and you go offline does it store a local copy of the recent emails?

I don't get to do deletion on my accounts that often (busy busy). Part of the reason why I'm buying the n900 is so I can keep up to date with emails. But I was wondering if I should go with a POP solution or a IMAP solution, my current gmail and hotmail accounts are a mix of both but I was thinking of switching them all to IMAP that way everything is synchronized. (though when Thunderbird downloads them they're still not marked as read already...)

Andre Klapper 2009-11-06 09:55

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
There are some issues filed in bugs.maemo.org with regard to large mailboxes. It's being worked on.

McChicken 2009-11-06 10:21

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
I think that I cannot have any other way than IMAP on the N900 due to that if using POP the emails will be D/L and deleted on the server = then the N900 have to be my MAIN computer...maybe I am wrong but that is how I see it.
IMAP = emails stay on the server
POP = get D/L to the device and erased on server

edgar2 2009-11-06 10:23

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McChicken (Post 367128)
IMAP = emails stay on the server
POP = get D/L to the device and erased on server

it does not have to be that way. you can tell the pop server to leave the messages after retrieval.

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1368...39d8d1e787.jpg

edgar2 2009-11-06 10:47

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 366949)
Is there anyone who has the n900 that has lots of emails (100+) that are being synced via IMAP? How is the performance on that, and once its synced, and you go offline does it store a local copy of the recent emails?

I don't get to do deletion on my accounts that often (busy busy). Part of the reason why I'm buying the n900 is so I can keep up to date with emails. But I was wondering if I should go with a POP solution or a IMAP solution, my current gmail and hotmail accounts are a mix of both but I was thinking of switching them all to IMAP that way everything is synchronized. (though when Thunderbird downloads them they're still not marked as read already...)

as andre said, there are some issues reported with imap and large number of mails. at the moment i solved it by moving all inbox messages to a subfolder (inboxarchive). that way day-to-day email is snappy and pleasant. when browsing large number of emails eventually gets convenient i might move old mails back from the subfolder again (which, i should add, is still accessible on the n900).

yerga 2009-11-06 14:37

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Also, the reported performance problems are with folders >10000 emails.
I have some folders with 1000-2000 emails and it works fairly well.

fms 2009-11-06 15:29

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
POP3 does not currently work in Modest. See this bug:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5839

Laughing Man 2009-11-06 21:29

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 367358)
Also, the reported performance problems are with folders >10000 emails.
I have some folders with 1000-2000 emails and it works fairly well.

Ah ok, my concern was more around the 500-1000 level, not 10000 emails. :eek:

jjx 2009-11-06 23:28

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 367779)
Ah ok, my concern was more around the 500-1000 level, not 10000 emails. :eek:

My inbox has 12000 mails, and you should see the other 400 or so folders :-)

At least I don't receive 1000 spams per day plus 5000 backscatters like I did a few years ago. Yay for improved spam filtering and greylisting :-)

jjx 2009-11-07 00:09

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Fwiw, I expect I will continue keeping my main inbox on my server, and filtering emails heavily so that only personal and work contacts, and replies to things I have written on mailing lists, are forwarded to my N900. The rest will be accessible on the server as usual, but not shouting their beepy goodness at me on the N900 through the day.

Oh dear, I'm quite looking forward to designing my personal info-handling workflow. I think I might be becoming a geek ;-)

stever 2009-11-07 09:05

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjx (Post 367844)
My inbox has 12000 mails, and you should see the other 400 or so folders :-)

Cor that's a lot of emails - ever thought of having a clear out rather than having to keep pushing the technnical capabilities of the mail client? ;)

Andre Klapper 2009-11-08 19:01

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
There is also a report about IMAP and large mailboxes at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3762 .
A fix for that one will be available soon.

Andre Klapper 2009-11-08 19:02

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 368053)
Cor that's a lot of emails - ever thought of having a clear out rather than having to keep pushing the technnical capabilities of the mail client? ;)

Clearing out wouldn't work for my job. Large mailboxes are a faster (offline) search for bugreports than using the online bugzilla's query.cgi. :-P

corsac 2009-11-11 22:31

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Hmh yeah I'd definitely be interested by modest keeping up with large (the “> 10k mails” large) folders. I try to move (server side) mails to subfolders, but I still have all my personal mails in the Inbox one. The solution to move all them to an InboxArchive folder doesn't really look fine for me but...

thecursedfly 2009-11-11 22:51

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
why not use an alternative mailbox bound to your phone as I set up?
my ad hoc gmx.com email address retrieves the emails from other providers (even multiple ones) through IMAP/POP3 (Mail Collector feature), and then you can download them to Modest via IMAP, deleting them all after reading if you wish, to keep it clean and fresh, or keeping just the important/personal ones...
(tip: it's possible to get all the emails in the Inbox folder instead of the 'Mail Collector'-special folders, look between the account settings)

may help some people :-)

corsac 2009-11-12 07:02

Re: Email/Modest Question (IMAP vs. POP)
 
Because I'd like not to have a specific config for one device. I know n900 is a mobile device, but it interests me a lot *because* it's said to be a real computer. Modest on n810 has problem keeping up with the mailbox size, and I really wish it would do better...


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