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ddiscodave 2010-12-20 21:53

best overclocking app
 
okay i have been seeing a lot lately about how the latest overclocking apps are making the job easy and painless and nearly trouble free.

so my question is, which app is the best and more importantly what cpu speed should I be clocked to to avoid crappy battery life and problems with the phone?

thanks !

AgogData 2010-12-20 21:55

Re: best overclocking app
 
QCPUFreq is what i'm using and i only overclock @ 900 Mhz when im going to use PSX emulator, works fine

michaaa62 2010-12-20 21:58

Re: best overclocking app
 
For me it is simply
Code:

kernel-config load ideal

ddiscodave 2010-12-20 22:27

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 900884)
For me it is simply
Code:

kernel-config load ideal

so you enter the string and thats it???

mr id 2010-12-20 22:33

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddiscodave (Post 900898)
so you enter the string and thats it???

No, they must have installed Titan's Power Kernel first. That's one setting you can load when it's installed to overclock with the 'ideal' profile.

ddiscodave 2010-12-20 23:00

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 900881)
QCPUFreq is what i'm using and i only overclock @ 900 Mhz when im going to use PSX emulator, works fine

what is the highest i can go without f-ing up my phone?

and......

i installed QCPUfreq and the highest i can go is 600 Mhz. how do i get up to 900? do you have smartreflex enabled?

ddiscodave 2010-12-20 23:51

Re: best overclocking app
 
???????????

heartbreakdoctor 2010-12-21 00:30

Re: best overclocking app
 
kernel 250 to 700 and i use swappolube and con900 to empty swap memory n refresh ur device as if u restarted it these r best to have best performance but some say for ideal overclocking clock using kernel or queen widget min 500 and max 850 but i find it alot.

Duy2anh 2010-12-21 01:05

Re: best overclocking app
 
Hi there,
I used to use Titan's kernel but gave it up because it messed up with 3G call reception, 3.5G data and wifi signal, and the load ideal causing freezing on my phone.
Do you have similae draw back when using QCPUfreq? If not, I will give it a try.
I am not trying to OC for games, but I would love to save some battery or make my N900 more swappy.

ddiscodave 2010-12-21 01:51

Re: best overclocking app
 
i just installed it tonight and noticed nothing but since I am somewhat new to this overclockign game there is a strong possibility that Im missing a step somewhere and if i am reading all of your posts correctly I am missing the kernels. all i did was install the app and attempt to run the overclock but i saw no change. I suppose I should have installed the kernel correct?

gleydsonpr 2010-12-21 02:41

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Yes, you must install Enhanced Power Kernel before using qcpufreq. Overclocking is good for emulators like psx mame N64 etc, but also for some flash heavy sites like megavideo tube8 site of flash games etc. The latest 'E P Kernel is v. 46 .

handaxe 2010-12-21 08:24

Re: best overclocking app
 
note that with the power kernel 2 things are possible: altering the cpu voltage table and altering the cpu clock speed. Using a preset profile in kernel settings such as ideal or lv or starving changes both. You can also use the default profile and simply overclock using one of the cpufreq proggies.

atilla 2010-12-21 08:41

Re: best overclocking app
 
install kernel-power setting from the maemo.org repo.
reboot
go xterm and
root then
kernel-config load (default,lv,xlv,ideal) not every voltage profile will work then:
kernel-config limits 250 (your max cpu freq)
if it runs nice and you are happy:
kernel-config save myprofile1 then
kernel-config default myprofile1
success

guide: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=774
regards

AgogData 2010-12-21 08:51

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddiscodave (Post 900917)
what is the highest i can go without f-ing up my phone?

and......

i installed QCPUfreq and the highest i can go is 600 Mhz. how do i get up to 900? do you have smartreflex enabled?

you must have kernal power first
then open QCPUFreq : settings --- check [enable overclocking] ---- choose your speed and close the app.

Duy2anh 2010-12-21 09:46

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 901116)
you must have kernal power first
then open QCPUFreq : settings --- check [enable overclocking] ---- choose your speed and close the app.

I see. So QCPUFreg is just UI for Titan kernel (!?). No other OC option right now? I gave up on kernel 46 because sometimes it make 3G call sound like twisted cassette tape sound impossible to hear. 3.5G and wifi signals are both much less stable. Dont know if it is my unluck only or what because havent seen any complaint like that. But this happened too regular to me with the titan kernel. Both before and after PR1.3.

Duy2anh 2010-12-21 15:22

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Opps, I just found out that without Titan Kernel, my N900 still some time get twisted cassette tape sound effect on 3G voice call. Will report back if I have a chance to try on GSM. Very irritating indeed when you have to stop a call and call back to hear properly.

Epitaph,
Can't download your list of scripts on http://n900-tune-up.sourceforge.net from microB or Internet Browser 8. MicroB redirects to www.sourceforge.net while Internet Browser keeps open the scripts as text file and won't offer saving to HDD.
Could you pls tell me how to install.

gabby131 2010-12-21 15:28

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddiscodave (Post 900917)
what is the highest i can go without f-ing up my phone?

and......

i installed QCPUfreq and the highest i can go is 600 Mhz. how do i get up to 900? do you have smartreflex enabled?

if you have kernel-power, for me highest to-go is 1ghz, for the voltage is the same as the stock kernel @600mhz

epitaph 2010-12-21 15:41

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duy2anh (Post 901336)

Epitaph,
Can't download your list of scripts on http://n900-tune-up.sourceforge.net from microB or Internet Browser 8. MicroB redirects to www.sourceforge.net while Internet Browser keeps open the scripts as text file and won't offer saving to HDD.
Could you pls tell me how to install.

It's working good with microb here. Just forget about pref.js it is not needed to tweak the device. Just download tune-up-startup, tune-up, bad_packets, htb, tc to a folder in /etc/tuneup. Copy tune-up-startup to /home/users. Edit tune-up-startup to point to /etc/tuneup then run the script. Other method is also glimpse into the code and copy the url's of the files and dl with wget. Hope this helps!

P.S: pref.js is good to tweak microb. dl pref.js with wget. open rootshell and type find . -name "*pref.js" then change to that directory cd .. . Look for the latest pref.js in that directory and replace it my pref.js (don't forget to make a backup). You can control the settings by typeing about:config in the adressbar of microb. Please try that method with the other files my,cnf and myconfig, too. I will try to keep them as fresh as possible.

Duy2anh 2010-12-21 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 901359)
It's working good with microb here. Just forget about pref.js it is not needed to tweak the device. Just download tune-up-startup, tune-up, bad_packets, htb, tc to a folder in /etc/tuneup. Copy tune-up-startup to /home/users. Edit tune-up-startup to point to /etc/tuneup then run the script. Other method is also glimpse into the code and copy the url's of the files and dl with wget. Hope this helps!

So in order to apply your scripts, I will have to mess up the omap kernel with Titan a gain?! I tried Titan three times, reflashed twice to be back to omap kernel. On kernel46 I didnot have to reflash though.
My MicroB keeps redirecting to http://www.sourceforce.net/

My bad typo, should have typed sourceforGe.net on MicroB, it works now, sorry.

epitaph 2010-12-21 16:00

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duy2anh (Post 901364)
So in order to apply your scripts, I will have to mess up the omap kernel with Titan a gain?! I tried Titan three times, reflashed twice to be back to omap kernel. On kernel46 I didnot have to reflash though.
My MicroB keeps redirecting to http://www.sourceforce.net/

If you don't want overclock or don't want to flash kernel-power, I don't know if the script is working, because it needs iproute and iptables. You can try it with your kernel, in rootshell type apt-get install iproute iptables. Also I don't think this script is for newbees and I think it is better to install it with kernel-power. At least it is private collection of my phone and it makes it superfast - I'm not sure if I want to share this all!

AgogData 2010-12-21 17:01

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duy2anh (Post 901154)
I see. So QCPUFreg is just UI for Titan kernel (!?). No other OC option right now? I gave up on kernel 46 because sometimes it make 3G call sound like twisted cassette tape sound impossible to hear. 3.5G and wifi signals are both much less stable. Dont know if it is my unluck only or what because havent seen any complaint like that. But this happened too regular to me with the titan kernel. Both before and after PR1.3.

i didn't say you need titan kernal ! i'm using kernal power 46 and its working just as stock kernal + ability to OC

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 04:53

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gleydsonpr (Post 900987)
Yes, you must install Enhanced Power Kernel before using qcpufreq. Overclocking is good for emulators like psx mame N64 etc, but also for some flash heavy sites like megavideo tube8 site of flash games etc. The latest 'E P Kernel is v. 46 .

okay... if i decide later on that i want to back out of this app will i be able to restore the original kernel and dump this app? or am i stuck with it now?

skykooler 2010-12-22 04:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ddiscodave (Post 901797)
okay... if i decide later on that i want to back out of this app will i be able to restore the original kernel and dump this app? or am i stuck with it now?

You can always flash the original kernel back with a PC or Mac.

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 05:01

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skykooler (Post 901801)
You can always flash the original kernel back with a PC or Mac.

stupid question... is that the same process as flashing maemo?

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 20:53

Re: best overclocking app
 
?????????????

geneven 2010-12-22 21:09

Re: best overclocking app
 
ddis: yes

All these extra oc apps are unnecessary. You just need the latest kernel from Titan. The problem reports you are seeing were just from a temporary glitch.

Titan kernel overclocking is very simple. Just scan the Wiki docs, especially the Jakiman doc.

There is a lot of misinformation posted outside the wiki. Trust Titan and Jakiman and be careful with others.

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 21:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 902334)
ddis: yes

All these extra oc apps are unnecessary. You just need the latest kernel from Titan. The problem reports you are seeing were just from a temporary glitch.

Titan kernel overclocking is very simple. Just scan the Wiki docs, especially the Jakiman doc.

There is a lot of misinformation posted outside the wiki. Trust Titan and Jakiman and be careful with others.



thank you so much for the peace of mind. its much appreciated. Ill be back with a review

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 21:37

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 902334)
ddis: yes

All these extra oc apps are unnecessary. You just need the latest kernel from Titan. The problem reports you are seeing were just from a temporary glitch.

Titan kernel overclocking is very simple. Just scan the Wiki docs, especially the Jakiman doc.

There is a lot of misinformation posted outside the wiki. Trust Titan and Jakiman and be careful with others.


i looked for the titan and jakiman kernels and all i found was one by THOMAS TANNER? is that the one?

renowong 2010-12-22 21:40

Re: best overclocking app
 
Yes, Thomas Tanner is Titan.

Radicalz38 2010-12-22 21:41

Re: best overclocking app
 
Thomas Tanner = Titan (Thomas i tanner)

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by renowong (Post 902367)
Yes, Thomas Tanner is Titan.

thank you so much!

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 22:01

Re: best overclocking app
 
okay i just installed the kernel and changed the cpu speed to 900. should i have SMART REFLEX enabled? also should i have BQ27x00 battery module checked off?

what will be best for me to conserve batt power? i had read that a lot of the new apps and kernels are really good on conserving battery power. thanks in advance!

i also realized that if i reboot the cpu speed drops back to 600. is that normal?

ddiscodave 2010-12-22 22:16

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ddiscodave 2010-12-22 23:49

Re: best overclocking app
 
amyone???????

handaxe 2010-12-23 00:20

Re: best overclocking app
 
unless you take steps the overclock is temporary and normal. the bq27x00 battery module is good as it gives better info. Beware of Smart Reflex it may cause spontaneous reboots. No harm done if it does so try. Worka for some n900s but not others.

Duy2anh 2010-12-23 05:35

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 901403)
i didn't say you need titan kernal ! i'm using kernal power 46 and its working just as stock kernal + ability to OC

I tried without the Titan kernel. It works. I tried to under-clock the CPU to 500 and the N900 still worked fine and swappy. Ad-hoc network very smooth with this clocking too. Just cannot tell if any battery is saved at all with underclocking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 901374)
If you don't want overclock or don't want to flash kernel-power, I don't know if the script is working, because it needs iproute and iptables. You can try it with your kernel, in rootshell type apt-get install iproute iptables. Also I don't think this script is for newbees and I think it is better to install it with kernel-power. At least it is private collection of my phone and it makes it superfast - I'm not sure if I want to share this all!

Thanks for sharing. I installed like you said, but without the Titan Kernel. The installer says "Setting up iproute", and "Setting up iptables" and finishes. But what does the script do I can't tell. Neither am I able to check if my N900 is faster or not.

Please give me some light.

ddiscodave 2010-12-23 13:37

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duy2anh (Post 902556)
I tried without the Titan kernel. It works. I tried to under-clock the CPU to 500 and the N900 still worked fine and swappy. Ad-hoc network very smooth with this clocking too. Just cannot tell if any battery is saved at all with underclocking.



Thanks for sharing. I installed like you said, but without the Titan Kernel. The installer says "Setting up iproute", and "Setting up iptables" and finishes. But what does the script do I can't tell. Neither am I able to check if my N900 is faster or not.

Please give me some light.

yes im with you. it was decent before and now im not sure if its really better at all. certainly isnt slower but im not seeing a dramatic increase in speed overall. I wanted it primarily for mypaint to speed it up and improve its performance

epitaph 2010-12-23 14:01

Re: best overclocking app
 
Thank you for trying! That's awesome! I have changed some parameters in tune-up. This should make it better. About the network, you must believe me, it is for poweruser, bittorrent and surfing at the same time, it is for many connection. Also I put a lot of pressure to TCP-stack meaning I reduced some timing. Also it rejects many packets in your network. For example it doesn't forward any packets for other anymore which is a key feature of the internet. It's call free-ride. Also you can watch and analyze the traffic with the monitor. About benchmark I tried the site I have mentioned in my tutorial. It's not that dramatic. And with bittorrent I get very high dl like 500-600 kb/s. That's fast. If you want faster install pref.js and mount-opts, too. Don't forget that my scripts are considered as aggressive optimization. Also I pause in developement of this script.

geneven 2010-12-23 14:05

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddiscodave (Post 902365)
i looked for the titan and jakiman kernels and all i found was one by THOMAS TANNER? is that the one?

That's the Titan kernel. I wasn't saying trust the kernel, I was saying trust comments by Titan and Jakiman. Though trusting the kernel is also a good idea :)

Duy2anh 2010-12-24 15:29

Re: best overclocking app
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 902834)
Thank you for trying! That's awesome! I have changed some parameters in tune-up. This should make it better. About the network, you must believe me, it is for poweruser, bittorrent and surfing at the same time, it is for many connection. Also I put a lot of pressure to TCP-stack meaning I reduced some timing. Also it rejects many packets in your network. For example it doesn't forward any packets for other anymore which is a key feature of the internet. It's call free-ride. Also you can watch and analyze the traffic with the monitor. About benchmark I tried the site I have mentioned in my tutorial. It's not that dramatic. And with bittorrent I get very high dl like 500-600 kb/s. That's fast. If you want faster install pref.js and mount-opts, too. Don't forget that my scripts are considered as aggressive optimization. Also I pause in developement of this script.

Now you mentioned it I did see some better change when surfing the net. Because I changed the ad-hoc channel from automatic to a specific chennel about the time I installed your scripts I thought the change helps. However, page loading is much faster both on ad-hoc (my homemade network) or 3.5G so it must be thanks to the scripts.

I am not fancy with torrent on N900. I just want pages to be loaded quicker, especially flash video or maps or pages with pictures.

It would be better to have some GUI to know what the scripts do, but I guess GUI will occupy some RAM and will make the N900 slower. But I trust you. I haven't seen any developer in this community spreading scripts or apps that harm the N900 on purpose and hope things stay that way. I trust and want to always trust this community.

I am still in two minds about installing the kernel46 again. It is tempting and I don't care about reflashing. Just that I have not seen it worth for me. I use DrSNES, not PSX4ALL, I don't fancy Debian or USB host, I like longer battery than overclocking, I would love to try Nitdroid but I can't afford rebooting to make call or take pictures. Ipv4 is fast enough for a phone, ipv6 is not even good with windows 7. And if you can bring along a keyboard for N900, you can bring a laptop or smaller, an Ipad.

In all, I just want a stable improvement version for the omap1, the one that includes something like swappolube and your scrips for faster internet, and some tweaks to improve battery life. Power46 kernel is too much. Do the scripts work well on power46 kernel, anyway?

Thank you for sharing and Merry Christmas to ALL


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