Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

i just tried 10 minutes ago, after downloading the .deb dpkg -i --force-depends worked for me. Are you sure the download went well? Perhaps some cache to clear or similar?

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

Apparently, the version I downloaded kept getting corrupted. Since I don't know how to clear a cache (other than with a shovel and a broom, that is) I downloaded it from my pc and copied the deb to my card.

I'm happy to say the install went well and -- sofar -- Numptyphysics runs almost perfectly. One exception: the "hold ESC to quit" doesn't seem to work, but killing from the home screen does a fine job.

It's a very very nice program, but I'm still pining for a variation I outlined on the CrayonPhysics site: Instead of a puzzle-solver, I'd like to see it as a freeform drawing program for kids. It's a nice way for younger children to create animations and a sort of virtual Legos.

Perhaps a series of predefined shapes could be added as a side-toolbar: wheels, levers, standard building blocks, even legs and arms that perform pre-defined motions. Ow, I dunno, I'm just making this up as I go along.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

That sounds like a crayon version of The Incredible Machine :)

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

Not at all :-)
One single b i t c h ing user - especially one doing it with the intensity you do it - generates mostly amusement, however i wanted to know what was the reason: if you had a vocation for it or actually a valid complaint. One should always be given a chance to explain his unhappiness.

A self contained community is a poor community. This applies to Maemo as well. I'm frankly disappointed that there hasn't really been much activity at kernel lever for example. That would have been entirely possible since the kernel is one of the most open parts of the tablet, but nothing.

Anyway, about Pandora I was referring to the developers who bring out the product. Where are they? We are present in many mailing lists - i hang around mostly in arm & omap ones - and I still have to see anything coming from Pandora.

We, on the other hand, are right now providing patches for power management, usb, alsa .. and more will come soon.

I didn't say that maemo is depending on Nokia, but certainly Nokia developing the ITOS cannot leave the community unaffected. It would be illogic to assume otherwise. If you want the bare metal, go and buy the TI development boards. Or intel. Or whatever you think lets you untainted. And good luck with that.

Sensational finding ... I thought that was one of the pillars of the whole tablet project, actually one of the goals, but apparently you didn't notice.

Anyway, as I said, Nokia is used to competition, actually welcomes it, therefore there isn't anything new in Pandora coming out. When OpenMoko came out neither we did run and hide, nor we got upset with it (actually some of our guys are involved with OpenMoko as well). I wonder why you think that yet another device would be different.

But probably you prefer your very biased interpretation What can I say .... enjoy it!

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

It does, doesn't it? :D

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

There actually is/was another piece of similar software made by someone else that was less goal-oriented and more just a 2d physics sandbox...I can't remember what it's called, but I'll post when I come upon it again.

God, I love numpty physics. It's so entertaining, even with so few levels, just making stuff and trying things out.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

'dpkg-deb -c' is the 'list content of package' command (i.e. it tells you where and what it's going to install if you run dpkg -i). So, your package is incomplete and needs a re-download.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

I wouldn't say nothing, igor. Fanoush has done some very good things with the kernel, to name one example. If I understand correctly, though, one thing holding back community kernel work in general has been the frustration over getting improvements pushed upstream. Can anyone comment on that? I may be wrong.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

I could, but you'd have to kill me if I did.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

Yeah, thanks. The trouble was that re-downloading it on the N800 kept giving me the incomplete package (some cache I couldn't find kept assuming I really wanted a crippled file). I ended up downloading it to my pc and copying the -- now complete -- file to my card.

Interestingly, the corrupt file was three times larger than the healthy one. Is someone trying to feed viruses down the Itablet pipeline? ;)