Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

i would say its designed to be used, not to sit on a tablet at starbucks and make the owner "look good"...

i get the same kind of feel from a ibm/lenovo laptop btw.

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

There is no preorder form yet. The mailing list was for signing up to get the preorder notification. That list has over 10,000 members (we were told).

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

hmm, do anyone know how much the openmoko phones have sold?

i would guess that the pandora should get into the same ballpark, even tho it has not gotten the same amount of press coverage (internet word of mouth can be a impressive thing, i learned of the pandora from reading up on gp2x or whatever its called).

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

Some of which don't/won't have the cash, but just want to know. I was tempted to be one, but I know it'll get splattered over here and engadget, so why load their server when I know I won't buy? (Unless it comes out below ~$250, which I'm pretty sure it won't; that's the price at which I might be willing to toss any chance of getting an N900 shortly after launch.)

Still, I bet there's more on the list, and trying to get in, than the 3000 slots.

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

It says $330 on the openpandora front page.

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

Yeah, but if they get scared they won't sell and slash the price, I won't complain...

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

kinda like this?:
http://www.jkontherun.com/2008/09/redfly-now-only.html

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

10,000 is the mailing list, yeah, and you're right about the pre-order form being available on the 30th.

Benson, I wasn't counting the dev boards, but if you do, the 3000 would be the second batch. I think they'll move >10,000 in the first year. That would be inline with the gp2x numbers.

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

The prices are set and have been communicated. Any items not sold on preorder (if any indeed) will go to the dealer circuit. It's generally agreed that 10,000 subscribers doesn't equal 10,000 units sold, but the prevailing fear on the forums is not so much that not enough Pandoras will sell, but rather that there won't be enough to satisfy demand. I guess we'll find out tuesday...

Re: Which device type is the real competitor?
 

I'm sort of expecting that between the G1 and a Samsung Q1 Ultra (with Ubuntu MID installed on it), my mobile needs will be handled. G1 for small work (Google Reader, light web browsing, messaging, looks like some interesting games will be ported to it as well), and the Q1 for things that would require a bigger screen.

But if I find I still want a middle-sized mobile screen, I may consider the Pandora. I also kind of wonder about the viability of Android on Pandora. That would give them access to everything Android, including that set of games. And since they're both linux based, how much would it take to port Pandora's software layers onto Android? Could be an interesting idea.