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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 289627)

I think he meant that there is a lot more room/space between the people in the US versus other countries. We're not as tightly packed together in the US as say... Britain or Hong Kong.

Yup... and if you find a chart that shows the mean distance between subscriber and cell tower, you may see that the number is quite large in these parts as well.

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 289625)

The standard answer here is "screw them". You have got several nationwide GSM networks, use them, ignore proprietary stuff, and it will eventually die off.

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Originally Posted by Me

The change to an un-subsidized phone for some would require an additional $400 up front... A $200 Early Termination Fee plus a $200 dollar premium for the equipment itself.

Well, what can I say? Either wait until the end of your contract or use any loophole you can find with Google.

You may be right fms, let the millions of iDEN and proprietary CDMA customers eat cake. :rolleyes:

For the record... it doesn't bother me a dang bit. My employer/client has provided me with unlimited service and new handsets whenever I need them for the past 8 years. Any future employment contracts I sign will have the same provisions.

...but many millions of subscribers live pay check to pay check.

BTW, fms I find your "screw them" philosophy hard to relate to. Can you provide any examples of how this attitude has worked out for you or others in the past. :)

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 289627)

I think he meant that there is a lot more room/space between the people in the US versus other countries. We're not as tightly packed together in the US as say... Britain or Hong Kong.

Russia. All GSM. No subsidies, no contracts, 18% VAT. Mostly pay-as-you-go calling. And it still ends up cheaper than in US.

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 288523)

Silence from both peter@maemomarketing and Ragnar, proves that this in fact is remotely true..... or is it not?

Wouldn't read too much into me not responding. In general, I don't comment on speculation of future devices.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 289639)

BTW, fms I find your "screw them" philosophy hard to relate to. Can you provide any examples of how this attitude has worked out for you or others in the past. :)

Attitude worked beautifully for me over the past years. I do not have to deal with the Phone Company, because I have no DSL. I do not have to deal with the Cable Company, because I have no cable. I do not have to pay monthly fees to my Cell Service Provider, because I only pay for minutes/megabytes used and that comes to <$20/month. My web browser shows clean web pages (AdBlock+) and I avoid watching TV if I can (not making a cult of this though). If I do watch TV, there is a Chinese-made recorder letting me skip through ads.

Believe me, locking all these things out of your life makes perfect sense.

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 289745)

Well good for you...:)

To many, you live a life of luxury that few can realistically afford...

It is kind of like that age old dilemma; What came first, the liquor store or the run down neighborhood?

...and sort of back on topic. How come all that seems to be advertised in rundown neighborhoods is liquor?

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 289756)

To many, you live a life of luxury that few can realistically afford...

Which of the above things can't you afford, aside maybe from having to have at least some Net connection (DSL or cable)?

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 289766)

Which of the above things can't you afford, aside maybe from having to have at least some Net connection (DSL or cable)?

OK... you win. This thread is now all about you and your point of view. Have fun. :)

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 289740)

Russia. All GSM. No subsidies, no contracts, 18% VAT. Mostly pay-as-you-go calling. And it still ends up cheaper than in US.

I know this is a dated thread but. part of the problem is also just general concepts and ideas of how to run a country and how much influence the government should have.

I suspect for countries that are more socialist, it's more acceptable for the government to push telcos around. While if the same is done in the USA (if not carefully) tons of lawsuits are filed and advocacy groups are created. And the US being half foot in socialist, half foot in capitalist gets screwed on both halfs without the benefits of both.

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 334898)

I know this is a dated thread but. part of the problem is also just general concepts and ideas of how to run a country and how much influence the government should have.

This has nothing to do with how country is run. And, believe me, there is nothing "socialist" about Russia nowadays...

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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 334898)

And the US being half foot in socialist, half foot in capitalist gets screwed on both halfs without the benefits of both.

Halves?? The US economy is more corporatist capitalist than any other country. Who were you comparing to? Historical fascist states?

/politics.. sorry.