Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

. . . and completely irrelevant to the type of discussion that community involves.

That case isn't particularly applicable here, nor do I see how you arrive at this conclusion.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

It is quite relevant. The primary target was the end-users, the end-users reside mainly in the forums, the decision to discuss the problem at Talk was correct.

Should you have a counter-point on every topic?

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

Official communication with whom? The maemo.org staff? The official communication channel is the mailing list. The council? Well, they've outlined their communication channels on the wiki. Nokia? Nokia Care.

It's not raising issues that's the problem, it's participating in the discussion. Their participation is what I value and we wont get it if we close down the mailing list and move all community discussion here.

But, really, we're going around in circles here. We arrived at the conclusion to this discussion months ago:

Closing down either the mailing list or the forum isn't an option, so we're left with finding a way to synchronize information between tho two tools. So let's move past argument for argument's sake and figure out a technical solution to the problem (locking this thread and starting a new one may be the best way to do that).

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

We're discussing community discussion here, not end-user support.

I could drag in another dozen threads from the mailing lists that "prove" that it's a better medium for developer discussions, but where does that get us here? We get that you love the forums; however, posting examples of why they're "better" doesn't really get us anywhere productive in this discussion. :)

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

If I'm reading Reggie right, that distinction is moot. The point is made a notch higher.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

I see. Sorry, my definition of 'community' includes end-user discussion/support. And I was merely pointing out that someone being paid by Nokia can use their paid time to use the forums if they can improve their product.

EDIT: Exactly Randy. Sorry, we were posting at the same time.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

Ok well I guess I'm a bit out of my depth here.. as you said I thought we were discussing communications for the community.

Now.. I guess.. what exactly defines the community is up in the air, I presume?

There is obviously a similarity between what -community and this community subforum are meant to discuss... that is the tie that I am referring and saying one or the other should marked as "official" for whatever purpose these two avenues are meant to discuss.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

As Dillinger said, he robs banks because that's where the money is.

To reflect the will of the community, you have to go where the community is.

That is on the fora, not on the mailing lists, as a rule.

In fact, there are two communities. Their opinions often clash. To choose between official forums and mailing lists would be to pick a winning community and a losing community. I don't think that would be good for anyone.

I preferred the official recognition of two communities that existed when they were divided into independent sites. Then disagreement was recognized as natural, and negotiation and diplomacy were the right ways to cope.

I doubt that any unification scheme will work, for reasons one can deduce from what GA is saying.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

No. I want the mailing-list.

Re: Move maemo-community mailing list activity to this forum
 

It's yours then. Keep it secret. Keep it safe.