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InoHacker 2010-05-11 00:27
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
It maybe intresting somebody, for example russian user, here russian edition version for VertSms. Changes:
1. Russian number (ex. +7(code)1234567 and 8(code)1234567) work correctly.
2. Russian interface and ability to send messages to Russian
http://s04.radikal.ru/i177/1005/63/f7ccad7b9051.jpg


This only little patch, and he need install original prog.

I'am sorry for my bad english :eek:

ossipena 2010-05-11 06:13
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InoHacker (Post 652567)
It maybe intresting somebody, for example russian user, here russian edition version for VertSms. Changes:
1. Russian number (ex. +7(code)1234567 and 8(code)1234567) work correctly.
2. Russian interface and ability to send messages to Russian
http://s04.radikal.ru/i177/1005/63/f7ccad7b9051.jpg


This only little patch, and he need install original prog.

I'am sorry for my bad english :eek:
please use the development thread in the future if you have patches, mods etc.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=643856

ps good that there is interest to modify the app.

aspidites 2010-05-11 06:25
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
perhaps gettext integration would be ideal? Would make it easier for different translations to be created. If a package is made, perhaps "vertsms-l10n-ru' would be a good idea for the above?

slender 2010-05-11 06:29
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 652779)
perhaps gettext integration would be ideal? Would make it easier for different translations to be created. If a package is made, perhaps "vertsms-l10n-ru' would be a good idea for the above?
Why different translation need to be made if you can take all the stuff from OS own localisation?

aspidites 2010-05-11 06:36
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slender (Post 652781)
Why different translation need to be made if you can take all the stuff from OS own localisation?
Size. If all the translations are in the same program then it will grow exponentially, and on a mobile device space is precious. Plus, I don't want to download 10000 languages when all I can really understand is English and Korean.

This consideration is far more important IMHO than convenience. Another alternative would be to have the translation files on a server somewhere and have them downloaded on first run.

Not saying any of this should be considered now or in the near future though...

slender 2010-05-11 07:56
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aspidites (Post 652787)
Size. If all the translations are in the same program then it will grow exponentially, and on a mobile device space is precious. Plus, I don't want to download 10000 languages when all I can really understand is English and Korean.

This consideration is far more important IMHO than convenience. Another alternative would be to have the translation files on a server somewhere and have them downloaded on first run.

Not saying any of this should be considered now or in the near future though...
hmmmm. I meant that why should you use localisation separately in your program if all localisation is in OS itself. I assume that you can use localisation from maemo itself?

InoHacker 2010-05-11 12:49
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slender (Post 652881)
hmmmm. I meant that why should you use localisation separately in your program if all localisation is in OS itself. I assume that you can use localisation from maemo itself?
localization can be done, but only interface. For message delivery in different languages use different encoding PDU-package.
For example, for russian language use 8-bit encoding, with the size of each character - 2 bytes.
That is why the maximum length of the message of 70 characters instead of 160.

slender 2010-05-11 14:24
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InoHacker (Post 653342)
localization can be done, but only interface. For message delivery in different languages use different encoding PDU-package.
For example, for russian language use 8-bit encoding, with the size of each character - 2 bytes.
That is why the maximum length of the message of 70 characters instead of 160.
I understood that that was the case here. So i just wondered that why should develeopers do localisation by themselves if itīs already integrated to Maemo. I do not know how it really works but feels just so weird that only way to implement multilangual simple interface is to use your own language localisation.

deans6571 2010-05-11 17:31
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
.......just tried this app - amazing!!! Who would have thought we could actually text in portrait on our N900?!!!!

.....at the moment - is there a way to enable Capital letters?! I tried hitting everything but just could not work it out......?!

The icing on the cake for this app will be (IMO) T9 texting mode.........

Keep up the good work.........

aspidites 2010-05-11 19:32
Re: [ANNOUNCE] VertSMS - portrait sms'ing in extras-dev
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slender (Post 653549)
I understood that that was the case here. So i just wondered that why should develeopers do localisation by themselves if itīs already integrated to Maemo. I do not know how it really works but feels just so weird that only way to implement multilangual simple interface is to use your own language localisation.
http://docs.python.org/library/gettext.html

The program must be location aware. Further, it must know what strings can be localized.

Further, localization strings must be provided. The OS being local aware means nothing for the programs written for that OS.


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