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Netweaver 2011-04-29 14:40

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Some news I didn't see in this thread yet : I've read in on of the weekly Handset/Dialer/DE meeting minutes that discussions are held on including the Orange Mobile browser in the DE.

There are still issues, like the need to remove the Orange branding/change image etc. Meego is not allowed yet to use the browser. They can only show the usage, not yet fully integrate and deliver into the images. Will be fixed later.

On Fennec usage in DE, it seems not possible to pre-load te majority of the Fennec libs, so we won't have a fast(er) startup time on a limited capability machine like the N900. I think it's sub 15s by now, not too bad, looking where we came from but not really acceptable by most end-users. Even the Mozilla Firefox/Fennec guys consider the N900 as being just too weak to run it well. That's one of the reasons an alternative was sought. Some Nokia people are not giving up to improve it further but if proper support from Mozilla guys is not there, things are going to be hard.

Just wanted to give these nuggets of info, as I didn't see these yet mentioned. Those meeting minutes are sometimes like treasure hunts, lots of interesting stuff in there :)

droitwichgas 2011-04-29 15:51

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 997385)
Some news I didn't see in this thread yet : I've read in on of the weekly Handset/Dialer/DE meeting minutes that discussions are held on including the Orange Mobile browser in the DE.

There are still issues, like the need to remove the Orange branding/change image etc. Meego is not allowed yet to use the browser. They can only show the usage, not yet fully integrate and deliver into the images. Will be fixed later.

On Fennec usage in DE, it seems not possible to pre-load te majority of the Fennec libs, so we won't have a fast(er) startup time on a limited capability machine like the N900. I think it's sub 15s by now, not too bad, looking where we came from but not really acceptable by most end-users. Even the Mozilla Firefox/Fennec guys consider the N900 as being just too weak to run it well. That's one of the reasons an alternative was sought. Some Nokia people are not giving up to improve it further but if proper support from Mozilla guys is not there, things are going to be hard.

Just wanted to give these nuggets of info, as I didn't see these yet mentioned. Those meeting minutes are sometimes like treasure hunts, lots of interesting stuff in there :)

Here's the link for anybody who is interested

http://irclogs.meego.com/meetbot/mee...-26-10.59.html

Sounds like they are taking another look at the Chromium browser?

I understand the Orange browser is classed as a "light" one so not one to replace Fennec.

rosh 2011-04-29 17:57

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Anybody tried, SIP or gtalk in meego. They dont go online for me.

m4r0v3r 2011-04-30 22:38

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why not opera? it runs fast and I like it lol

madstunt 2011-04-30 23:42

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
+1 for opera. it's blazing fast compared to fennec in every ways

LucianoBraga 2011-05-01 00:16

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
+1 for Opera here too. Fennec sucks hard compared to Opera.

godofwar424 2011-05-01 00:18

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 993630)
I just wish Ovi Maps would be somehow someday ported to MeeGo.. As the Ovi Maps on Symbian is just great..

You might get lucky. Nokia MAY and I say it very cautiously. They MAY create a Qt version of Ovi Maps so that when they have a MeeGo device they will only have to work on updates for one program using one language and theyll be able to release it on both Symbian and MeeGo :)

But lets not gets hopes up, I mean technicaly if they did that and had a Qt version which was released for MeeGo, it could slyly be backported to work on Maemo :)

Obviously this is not considering the legal implications of porting a closed Nokia application from MeeGo to Maemo :(

mikecomputing 2011-05-01 08:04

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 998058)
You might get lucky. Nokia MAY and I say it very cautiously. They MAY create a Qt version of Ovi Maps so that when they have a MeeGo device they will only have to work on updates for one program using one language and theyll be able to release it on both Symbian and MeeGo :)

yeah right 0.0001 perceent chance that will happen! Dont make people think it will happen cause it will not.

They may release it for Symbian yes. But Microosft want allow them to distribuate it for Linux devices (Meego/Maemo). Especially not as opensource and binary packets for Meego will for sure not work on Maemo.

Remember Nokia is working for Microsoft now.

You can only trust open community and some of the engineer still working on Meego/Qt at Nokia. The rest of Nokia is FAIL.

vivmak 2011-05-01 08:58

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 998152)
yeah right 0.0001 perceent chance that will happen! Dont make people think it will happen cause it will not.

They may release it for Symbian yes. But Microosft want allow them to distribuate it for Linux devices (Meego/Maemo). Especially not as opensource and binary packets for Meego will for sure not work on Maemo.

Remember Nokia is working for Microsoft now.

You can only trust open community and some of the engineer still working on Meego/Qt at Nokia. The rest of Nokia is FAIL.

I am glad that someone is talking about the OVI maps 'same as on Symbian phones', this is the only topic that can create a pin drop silent in Nokia land and now in MeeGo ;)

Since Nokia is not associated with MeeGo as its focus OS I suspect OVI maps will be available on MeeGo. I would to see OVI maps with navigation and spoken street names.

Alfred 2011-05-01 09:01

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madstunt (Post 998048)
+1 for opera. it's blazing fast compared to fennec in every ways

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucianoBraga (Post 998057)
+1 for Opera here too. Fennec sucks hard compared to Opera.

Guys, have you tried the latest beta build from fennec 6.0~... ?
I am sure firefox can catch up


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