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Re: 2012 Coding Competition

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Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1212078)

Cause I don't think we will get more than 100 brand new apps.

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Re: 2012 Coding Competition

Hello,

what about to have a sub-category in each one about updating (porting?) an existing app?

Re: 2012 Coding Competition

We could use the same category as "Update/Port an existing application".

This category would probably receive more submissions than original applications categories, but as we already have some additional devices, we could give more prizes for this category if finally we have a lot of submissions.

Re: 2012 Coding Competition

I will vote for sure, for an update to preenv and WebOS Games Manager ;)

Re: 2012 Coding Competition

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Originally Posted by b0unc3 (Post 1212313)

Hello,

what about to have a sub-category in each one about updating (porting?) an existing app?

Then we'd need double the amount of prizes...

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Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1212318)

We could use the same category as "Update/Port an existing application".

How would you distribute the prizes?

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Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1212319)

I will vote for sure, for an update to preenv and WebOS Games Manager ;)

That would be awesome! But according to javispedro there is a problem with Aegis on the N9/N950 as far as I remember...

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Re: 2012 Coding Competition

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0unc3 (Post 1212313)

what about to have a sub-category in each one about updating (porting?) an existing app?

Brilliant Idea! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1212363)

Then we'd need double the amount of prizes...

No, since the "Updates category" would get removed. ;)

The current proposal:

Quote:

1. Business & Office
2. Games
3. Graphics & Multimedia
4. Location & Navigation
5. Network & Communication
6. Others
7. System & Utilities
8. Update to an existing app
9. Beginner-Award (one from any category)
10. Multi-Platform-Award (one from any category)

Categories 1 to 7: Only new apps allowed (released within the competitions timeframe) and spread the devices across the categories dependent how many submissins we have in the end.

But which system should we use to spread them and how to avoid anger?
I tought already the past days about this problem since someone could say later "If I had known..." - a fixed system is always better since everybody will know how it works and what to win in the end.

We have 25 devices to spread, right?

Categorie 8 would get removed, categorie 9 and 10 are already participating in Categorie 1-7.

So, what about this:

We divide the bounty into 16 shares.

Then we run the main categories as two competitions - the updated from the new apps seperated:

Competition 1: NEW APPLICATIONS:
1a. Business & Office
2a. Games
3a. Graphics & Multimedia
4a. Location & Navigation
5a. Network & Communication
6a. Others
7a. System & Utilities

1st Prize: N950
2nd Prize: N9
3rd Prize: Bounty share

Competition 2: UPDATES TO EXISTING APPLICATIONS:
1b. Business & Office
2b. Games
3b. Graphics & Multimedia
4b. Location & Navigation
5b. Network & Communication
6b. Others
7b. System & Utilities

1st Prize: N9
2nd Prize: Bounty share
3rd Prize: "thanks for participating"

Bonus Competition Beginner-Award

8. Beginner-Award (one from any category)

1st Prize: N950 (and I read somewhere kojacker would donate again a book?)
2nd Prize: N950
3rd Prize: Bounty share

Bonus Competition Multi-Platform-Award
9. Multi-Platform-Award (one from any category)

1st Prize: N950
2nd Prize: N9
3rd Prize: Bounty share

10 x N950, 15 x N9. In total 25 devices, am I right?

Rule: If someone from the Bonus Competitions (Beginner-Award or Multi-Platform-Award) has already won a device in the Main Competition 1 or 2 he will get excluded with every other app he has submitted from the Bonus Competitions. The votes to his submissions ~~won't get evaluated~~ will get evaluated but will get ignored and we will overide it in the results. The Prizes will get in this case distributed to the next guys in the ranking.
If a beginner is already good enought to win the 1st or 2nd seat in the main categorie he is not a beginner. And the updated app is in this case are also already enought appreciated. :)

If I remember correctly we had the last time enought for a place 3 to 5 bounty share. So we should get hopefully enought for 16 bounty shares. Since we prefer new applications there will be only prizes for the best 2 updated apps in each category. Only devices. No Bounty.
If we collect more than a certain level of Money we could spread the Bounty across place 3 and 4. How hight should we set this limit? Hm, what about US$ 1500 ?
So the 3rd Place will not get higher than US$100, unless we collect more than $3000... ;)

This sounds to me a lot better compared to the current proposal.
We are honoring with this system updates to existing apps, we are prefering totally new submissions and we are trying to avoid multi-device-winners. ;)

My old proposal to appreciate apps which get ported from the N900 to the N9 during this competition was rejected or were forgotten. They could find a new home at the "Updates to existing applications" section. So developers, brush the dust off from your floppy disks and hunt down your old code. There is a Nokia N9 waiting for you. (If my proposal gets finally accepted by everyone) ;)

Re: 2012 Coding Competition

So far I just had a quick glance at your post. But just some quick remarks with respect to the technical side of counting votes:

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Originally Posted by helex (Post 1212544)

... The votes to his submissions won't get evaluated.

I'm afraid that's very dificult, if possible at all, to realize using our current voting process. And personally, I do not want to complicate things even more. We already had a very hard time the last time to come with the solution as it exists now.

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Originally Posted by helex (Post 1212544)

The Prizes will get in this case distributed to the next guys in the ranking. ...

This on the other hand is very simple and does not need any change to the voting process. Simply skip the ones that already got a price and choose the next one in line according to the ranking determined using our voting process as explained in the Wiki.

Edit: Please excuse me if I am too picky about this but I learned from the last time that a voting process is indeed a very delicate topic and even the smallest details could lead to lots of confusion, trouble, changes in the results and what not.

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Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 1212551)

Sorry, I meant it exactly this way. I'm not a native speaker. So excuse please if my "english" is hard to understand. :(

To get it as exactly as possible, we get at example in the Beginner Category in the end this rating result:
1. Wonko
2. helex
3. zehjotkah
4. Kojacker

If helex won in this example already at the games category a Device we would ignore helex at the Beginners category and the prizes will go to Wonko, zehjotkah and Kojacker. No extra fiddling at the voting system. We don't need this pain a second time. ;)

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Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 1212551)

Edit: Please excuse me if I am too picky about this but I learned from the last time that a voting process is indeed a very delicate topic and even the smallest details could lead to lots of confusion, trouble, changes in the results and what not.

No, thanks a lot. Very appreciated!
It is in the interest of every member to make this as exactly as possible. :)

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Originally Posted by helex (Post 1212559)

Sorry, I meant it exactly this way. I'm not a native speaker. So excuse please if my "english" is hard to understand. :(
...

Thanks for the clarification. :)
And don't worry, I am no native speaker as well. I think the fewest of us are. ;)

And yes, you're right. It was a quite a struggle the last time. But I think the solution we have now is pretty elegant and fair.

Re: 2012 Coding Competition

I would prefer zehjotkahs proposal. It's just easier to understand.

The important thing about this competition is that we need more apps in the maemo/meego world. More in this case means new ones, not updated or ported ones.

And just as a side note. the voting process with zejotkahs proposal is alot easier to manage and to understand for voters.