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Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1225202)

1) Microsoft existed before IBM gettiong the OS contract with IBM. About 5 1/2 years, in fact.

2) Wasn't really a question of Big Blue being lazy. The PC development team were specifcally tasked with getting the PC to market as quickly as possible, and decided to source various components, including the OS, from outside vendors to achieve this. What they really wanted was CP/M, which they tried to commission from Digital Research. And what they ended up with was 86-DOS, which was API compatible with CP/M

3) DOS never stood for Dirty Operating System. QDOS (which later became 86-DOS), however, did stand for Quick and Dirty Operating System, but you can't extract just the DOS from there, out of context.

whatever you say
fact is: wihtout IBM's order, they would have disappeared just like Seattle Computers Products, the actual creator of QDOS / 86-DOS, did.
the only reason they (still) exist is because (not even) their crappy product was sold with every XT/AT/PC & they got some license fees;

not going to happen on the mobile market.
on the contrary...
«WHAT?!? a m$ product ? i'll take anything else!»
>¦-)))))))))))))

EDIT: worst is, if that @$$O of Flop hadn't soiled NOKIA's name with his m0#0nic statements, the same thing that happened on the computer market (m$ become the de facto standard because they were sold on every IBM XT/AT/PC, back then the largest IT company in the world) could have happend on the mobile phone market
consumers would have bought m$ just by buying NOKIA out of routine, without even thinking about it :eek:
good enough a reason for Bllamer to always look so angrily @ Flop ¦-))))))))))))))))))))))))

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1225271)

Not really, people write WP7 apps specifically and often they don't bother because of the low install base. MS often has to partner with them to allow low level access or pay them to rewrite their app.

which platform is missing from these lists? Why do you think that is?
http://www.unrealengine.com/platforms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Integrated_Runtime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine)

I was using the cross platform term in the context of cross WP7.5 - WP8. Are you saying that in the future apps written for WP8 work cross platform in the context of WP/Android/iOS? I don't recall reading that. I think what was said is that Windows 8 will also run WP8 apps, but perhaps it will also run WP7.5 apps, given that WP8 runs those. I don't know..

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by shinogami (Post 1225164)

I don't get the mentality of people who think something is obsolete just because it can't run the latest version of some software, as if the item suddenly loses all functionality. Also shame on MS marketing for calling the update 7.8 instead of 8.0. Why did they do it? It's like they were asking for bad press. "WP8 coming to existing phones, only features missing are the ones not supported by the hardware". Isn't that what's happening, except it's called WP7.8?

Also, I used to think that blogs like Engadget and Gizmodo were very biased, but last night I made the error of reading something from cnet. Holy ****, not only are they extremely biased, but they even seem to spread disinformation deliberately. I can't help thinking that what they're doing is illegal, and I'd like to see Nokia suing their asses.

our N900s (or N9s) aren't obsoleted thanks to Community SSU & Co
Lumias were obsoleted the moment they were put on the market as hardly anyone cares to buy them.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

Misterc i hope you read my post before Reggie closed the thread !.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

I really really hate to say this but i think WP is going to be big and will be something to reckon with, i hate Microsoft as much as i have always hated Rupert Murdoch just to set the record clear ok.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1225271)

Not really, people write WP7 apps specifically and often they don't bother because of the low install base. MS often has to partner with them to allow low level access or pay them to rewrite their app.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/te...book.html?_r=1
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...ith-apple.html

which platform is missing from these lists? Why do you think that is?
http://www.unrealengine.com/platforms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Integrated_Runtime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine)

Cue... you make a point of Adobe AIR and Unity3D missing from WP7, but they're also missing from MeeGo and Maemo.

It doesn't lessen your statements about WP7 - both of those missing affects me directly as a programmer and as a user.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1225288)

our N900s (or N9s) aren't obsoleted thanks to Community SSU & Co
Lumias were obsoleted the moment they were put on the market as hardly anyone cares to buy them.

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the end (after massive marketing), the Lumia range has sold more than the N9.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by shinogami (Post 1225321)

Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but in the end (after massive marketing), the Lumia range has sold more than the N9.

how many lumia series available out there vs single the last maemo fighter aka N9? Well im not impressed at all

Re: Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year?

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Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1224964)

They said 18 months support, not updates. WP7.8 would count as "support".

Also, you can install iOS 5 on a 3GS which launched in 2009! that's more than 18months. Android phones are also updated to the latest ICS release which is not going to be replaced I assume until this fall so most android phones would also have 18 months or more. Not to mention a lot of Android phones have unlocked bootloaders anyway so you can install whatever you like.

iOS 5 was equivalent to 7.8...watered down...also, firmware updates ARE promised.

Android is a POS fragmented OS...I remember waiting for the updates until I finally rooted and cianogened it, even then it was lagged out. ICS will be delivered to certain phones, during the exact same time the next version will be released for the new phones. Laggy crap.

Re: UPDATE: "1st post" Nokia's Flagship Lumia 900 obsolete in less than a year? ELOP RESPONDS

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Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1225344)

how many lumia series available out there vs single the last maemo fighter aka N9? Well im not impressed at all

I'm not impressed (or surprised) either. However, the post to which I replied postulated that bad sales made it obsolete. I was just pointing out that by this logic the N9 is even more obsolete. The same applies to Apple's OS X running computers. Somebody should let Apple know that their computers are obsolete since far more computers are sold that run Windows..