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woody14619 2013-04-17 22:57

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
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Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1336655)
Not that I want to throw more wood

To simplify my reply (which was moderated): Any time a group of people is working on something together, all it takes is one bad actor to cause problems.

Just because you see one name again and again doesn't mean they're the only person, or the one in charge. :rolleyes:

Win7Mac 2013-04-17 22:59

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
Untill now, I kept out of the political/community threads, because I'm a relative new member and I always felt like things are in good hands.
Both has changed now.

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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1336834)
ffs, this cluster**** is amazing. First you guys (woody) create (by)laws to work within a legally binding framework...
...If you guys (coup guys) wrote the rules, play by them ffs.

Wrong, bylaws were created by SD69, Woody just kept on reminding us that review, feedback and final acceptance are important.
No coup, no such guys, no scapegoat.

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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1336834)
Noone thanks SD as well (not so strange with what is going on).

Exactly. What was the complaint again?

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Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1336834)
Debating legality is now a bad thing? Or is your legalese shitty?

It's not, it is important and actually happening here thanks to the confident guys you're blaming. Think about it.

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Originally Posted by szopin
Sure, attack the person summarizing the thread

Your not summarizing the thread, you're misinterpreting it...

@HittheB: Thanks for reopening, deleting szopin's post is definetely the better choice.
This discussion is eminent, though OT with this threat title.
Please keep on putting the finger where it hurts the most, hopefully people (soon to be) in charge learn something.

joerg_rw 2013-04-17 23:10

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
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Originally Posted by Win7Mac (Post 1336873)
Please keep on putting the finger where it hurts the most, hopefully people (soon to be) in charge learn something.

You can bet on that! My first lesson: The show isn't over before the fat lady sung - IOW when etablishing a ruleset don't stop halfway, push through until the static end of the story. Appointment of HiFo BoD should never had happened without official public parallel appointment of HFC, and both entities shouldn't have been allowed to leave for weekend before the election rules been provided by HFC.

Oh, and thanks for your comment, much appreciated, also from "newcommers".

cheers
jOERG

woody14619 2013-04-17 23:35

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1336864)
after second look, seems the 'party' is the other way around). Had no idea which rule was broken

To the topic of ByLaws: The ByLaws were a community effort. I facilitated that effort, and did the manual work of piecing in things that were not in the original draft. Things like even having elections, instead of self-appointment, and having a Council, just to name two examples.

For what it's worth, Rob was acting as legal council at the time. He did have input a couple times. In particular the last version has at least one change he noted was legally required after he reviewed it.

As for the "broken rule" issue, can you clarify what rule you believe has been broken?

jalyst 2013-04-18 04:55

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
In the by-laws thread we were srsly considering not bothering w/a council at one point, & just having the one body (some okay-ish arguments were put forward), I'm so glad now we didn't go that way.

Dave999 2013-04-18 05:18

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
did this thread close and reopened the again? How did that happen?

joerg_rw 2013-04-18 07:39

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1336911)
did this thread close and reopened the again? How did that happen?

Pure magic

Dave999 2013-04-18 09:23

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1336934)
Pure magic

I need that power!

HtheB 2013-04-18 09:40

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1336934)
Pure magic

It's not magic, it was a MIRACLE!
http://global3.memecdn.com/its-a-miracle_c_1108673.jpg

woody14619 2013-04-18 18:44

Re: [Hildon Foundation] A personal introduction by Jimjag (Jim Jagielski)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1336911)
did this thread close and reopened the again? How did that happen?

It was closed, cleaned up a hair, and brought back to a civil (if still somewhat off-topic) level by the moderator staff. Which was probably for the best, when re-examined after a good nights rest. :rolleyes:

It's easy to get angry/defensive when one perceives the words or acts of others as "attacks". I think what's desperately needed here (on all "sides") is a refocus on what the community needs and wants. Since in the end, that's what really matters.


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