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dirkvl 2014-08-11 18:24
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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the whole camera covering issue will not go away, because the camera is in the middle
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Originally Posted by robnas (Post 1435502)
Well....explain, please.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2itq2vb.jpg

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i have a trick up my sleeve to eliminate this issue
will be revealed in first rev2 proto video


maybe :p

misterc 2014-08-11 22:05
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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Originally Posted by dirkvl (Post 1435504)
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2itq2vb.jpg



will be revealed in first rev2 proto video


maybe :p
wouldn't it be better for the keyboard layout to simply make a little "cut out" for the flash LED when the keyboard is pulled out instead of the two big holes?
after all, the other ½ can be exchanged if in "photo safari"
possibly w/ a "photo" ToH, with tripod fixation, additional Xenon flash (+ battery) & knows gawd what more :D :rolleyes: :cool:

malkavian 2014-08-13 08:18
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I think that different layouts would be a need (I would need a spanish qwerty layout), but other customizations are unnecesary, and it's better to focus on functionality and price.

Thoke 2014-08-13 09:04
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
+1 on functionality and reliability. With that price it's usability must be good/very good, and it must work consistently and reliably. That should be the main focus. Throw out customizability and easy modifiability if they get in the way of reaching functionality and reliability.

I might pay 150€ for it if it really is functional and reliable. If it's price was 100€, I wouldn't demand as much functionality, but I still wouldn't spend even that much money if it wasn't reliable at least.

Just my two cents.

PS: don't still make it look like a frankenkbd : P

mind_the_gap 2014-08-17 21:46
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1435610)
+1 on functionality and reliability. With that price it's usability must be good/very good, and it must work consistently and reliably. That should be the main focus. Throw out customizability and easy modifiability if they get in the way of reaching functionality and reliability.

I might pay 150€ for it if it really is functional and reliable. If it's price was 100€, I wouldn't demand as much functionality, but I still wouldn't spend even that much money if it wasn't reliable at least.

Just my two cents.

PS: don't still make it look like a frankenkbd : P
That's my opinion, too.

Casanunda 2014-08-18 14:18
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1435610)
+1 on functionality and reliability. With that price it's usability must be good/very good, and it must work consistently and reliably. That should be the main focus. Throw out customizability and easy modifiability if they get in the way of reaching functionality and reliability.

I might pay 150€ for it if it really is functional and reliable. If it's price was 100€, I wouldn't demand as much functionality, but I still wouldn't spend even that much money if it wasn't reliable at least.

Just my two cents.

PS: don't still make it look like a frankenkbd : P
That sums up my opinion quite well, too.

150€ is quite a lot of money for a keyboard - for the same money, you can get an Android smartphone with hardware similar to Jolla's...

But with a fully functional and well built ("professional feeling") hardware keyboard the Jolla would really be a unique device again.
I can live with limited/no choice of customization (although I would love a German layout QWERTZ keybord) if function and quality are good.

For 100,-€ I could live with a device that blocks the camera when keyboard is opened (not that much of a deal to snap it back in - but NOT acceptable the other way round, e.g. keyboard has to be pulled out to take a photo), but a 150,-€ device should make it possible to take photos in both states.

dirkvl 2014-08-18 14:39
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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Originally Posted by Casanunda (Post 1436130)
That sums up my opinion quite well, too.

150€ is quite a lot of money for a keyboard - for the same money, you can get an Android smartphone with hardware similar to Jolla's...

But with a fully functional and well built ("professional feeling") hardware keyboard the Jolla would really be a unique device again.
I can live with limited/no choice of customization (although I would love a German layout QWERTZ keybord) if function and quality are good.

For 100,-€ I could live with a device that blocks the camera when keyboard is opened (not that much of a deal to snap it back in - but NOT acceptable the other way round, e.g. keyboard has to be pulled out to take a photo), but a 150,-€ device should make it possible to take photos in both states.
Okay cool, I think I have enough opinions about this subject to continue for a while! Thanks all! I'll do my best :)

sid21177 2014-08-19 19:03
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
I know you already discounted this idea

But a vertical keypad, like N95/N96, would solve the camera access issue as someone mentioned earlier.

It would also be (potentially) possible to make it thinner, coz you will have more support (opening mechanism along the longer edge of the phone)

Just an opinion :) - pls don't take it otherwise

dirkvl 2014-08-19 19:29
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
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Originally Posted by sid21177 (Post 1436298)
I know you already discounted this idea

But a vertical keypad, like N95/N96, would solve the camera access issue as someone mentioned earlier.

It would also be (potentially) possible to make it thinner, coz you will have more support (opening mechanism along the longer edge of the phone)

Just an opinion :) - pls don't take it otherwise
Since this is -as you mention- discussed before, I would like to refer to my previous answer about this idea.

dirkvl 2014-08-25 14:30
Re: TOHKBD rev2
 
First mock-up proto is on the way, pics/video this week!

http://oi58.tinypic.com/246vnv8.jpg


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