Re: Nokia’s Return To The Smartphone Market: Officially Confirmed
 

They fly in monkeys

Re: Nokia’s Return To The Smartphone Market: Officially Confirmed
 

Sorry guys, didn't read the thread, just my 2 cents.

Since Americans decided to kill Nokia in about 2007-2008 (mobiles became too important and they realized it) and successfully implemented it, now Nokia can make phones again, being some small 3d class company a-la Alcatel.

Besides, imho, it was just strange that Finnish (sic!) company was n. 1 in phones - it was an oversight by the USA :), but they quickly corrected their mistake.

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First things first... Elop is Canadian. Microsoft is indeed American; but Elop was invited to Nokia by the Nokia board first. He made the decision to bring in the Americans; blame the shared border perhaps?

Not unless you're going to go for the semantic proper use of American, meaning North American in this sense. Lack of North/South typically denotes that you mean a person from the United States of America.

Either way, the Finnish board brought in the North American Elop from Canada and allowed him to make those decisions that brought in the North American company Microsoft from the United States of America which led to a huge set of layoffs in Finland, a write-off in the United States of America and a prior Microsoft CEO to be replaced with the current one that's in place and seems to have a rather limited like/use for the Lumia brand - denoted by the lack of Lumia flagship at the moment.

Hopefully Nokia will come back. It can be done right. No more Canadian or US citizens at the helm of a Finnish company perhaps?

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Well it would not be the first time when CIA destroys one business of Finnish Company. Like Rauma-Repola's submarines:
http://www2.hs.fi/english/archive/ne...id=20031022IE6

But I guess CIA did not destroy Nokia's mobile business. But who knows.

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Wow, that's a really little known (at least here/outside of finland?) fact (opinion?). Who needs to reintroduce a tyrant after democratic revolt when you can just undercut non-cooperating companies throwing money at the cooperative ones, economic CIA work is not that well covered.
Any americans (the USA ones or canadian) can tell us if this is capitalism in action, or the opposite?


edit: and OH BOY, OH BOY, Jolla will have a hard time :eek:
edit2: which begs the question if display problems have anything to do with sudden incompatibility of intel(!) chip with it (and if samsung was possibly involved, tinfoil hat stays for now)

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Man, do you know that everything and everybody sells? :)
It's not a fairy tale, it's a multi-billion dollar industry, that's very important for governments.

BTW, look on Elop - there's a proverb, it's very old - so it's not pollitically correct :)
"Moor did his thing, Moor now can leave"

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Gawd...are we still on Elop??
Alritey..
I'll fess-up...
geez...you guys won't quit...
Gerbick was so close to the truth...
and I see that it is only a matter of time before it is found out...
It ain't the cia or fbi or some other branch of somewhere else...
It's worse than ANY could imagine...
Avril Lavigne, Nickleback, Celine Dion, Beiber, Neil Young..and yes ..Elop...and many many more ...
are all psychologically trained mutant operatives in our Canadian spy agency....
Part of a secret ops in fact...
called ..
"Project Terror ...Eh?"
Unfortunately Elop went rogue...
for the record
In formal and proper Canadian etiquitte .... on behalf of the Canadian gov't and people...
"Terribly sorry about that and all...eh?"
:D

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I believe every single word of your post.

I KNEW IT! It's always the nicest ones...

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To ascribe the ruin of Nokia to Americans is somewhat fair. While Elop is Canadian and the company’s management counted many Finns, both had to answer to Nokia’s shareholders, and among those large shareholders who insisted that Nokia enter into a partnership with Microsoft to boost the shares of the latter (as those large shareholders held shares of both), Americans were prominent.

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Elop may have been born a Canadian citizen...
but he is far far far from the Canadian norm. as a citizen.

I don't know how he has managed to retain his citizenship (if indeed he has) since he's lived in his estate in Seattle since 2008.

According to our country's terms for dual citizenship...you must spend x-many months living in Canada at your permanent residence if you wish to maintain citizenship. And the American gov't (unlike many countries in the world today) frowns mightily on an American citizen keeping dual-citizenship.

I think Nokia was taken by a Canadian by the accident of geographical birth ...but hardly by a Canadian citizen.
As a norm our citizenry doesn't think very highly of Canadians who leave their country for California...or Florida...or Barbados ..or Fiji.
Back in the day...we used to have Senators (appointed for life) simply living out of country in warmer climes while collecting wages for jobs they were not present for.
We have a very low opinion of people who "call" themselves Canadian without living here.

The Finnish people and Nokia were taken by an impersonator...an imposter ..plain and simple. His behaviour all around is more New York cut-throat wall street than Ontario born Hamiltonian.

In the end though ...the shareholders who wanted blood money everyone should be blaming...they are the ones who brought everything to an end...for their own Company and their own employees...
Elop may have been an ugly creature and portrayed as much too.
But the shareholders who brought him in are vastly vastly more despicable.