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Aisu	2008-05-11 20:04

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

That was uncalled for x_X This is going up on Planet Maemo. ;)

qwerty12

2008-05-11 20:06

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

no wait, app manager still seems to be updating...

come think of it, I don't read planet maemo.

Naranek

2008-05-11 20:27

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

How is the touch screen working? Does the screen still sometimes place the click a few centimeters off the place you clicked? How about the annoying doubble clickss?

yerga

2008-05-11 20:36

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 180435)

No, AGPS is not yet built in. Currently there is an early alpha AGPS application (Nokia internal only) in testing.

When I connect the GPS, it's created a log file in /media/mmc2/supldbuslog:

Code:

2008.05.11-14:05:33 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data

2008.05.11-14:05:33 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data - done

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - dbus_message_get_signature: s

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - No A-GPS data received!

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - Error msg:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown!

2008.05.11-14:05:41 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data

2008.05.11-14:05:41 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data - done

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - dbus_message_get_signature: s

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - No A-GPS data received!

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - Error msg:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown

Mara	2008-05-11 20:50

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 180513)

When I connect the GPS, it's created a log file in /media/mmc2/supldbuslog:

Code:

2008.05.11-14:05:33 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data

2008.05.11-14:05:33 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data - done

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - dbus_message_get_signature: s

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - No A-GPS data received!

2008.05.11-14:05:35 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - Error msg:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown!

2008.05.11-14:05:41 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data

2008.05.11-14:05:41 [DEBUG] dbus_supl_get_assist_data - done

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - dbus_message_get_signature: s

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - No A-GPS data received!

2008.05.11-14:05:42 [DEBUG] assist_response_notify - Error msg:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown

Interesting... I assume that some AGPS functionality is already built in but it is not yet complete.

That's because there is one application that is in testing, which is basically showing a world map which you should point your rough location at the very first time. (Or after you have moved long distance since last fix.) Also the app asks permission to use packet data (GPRS/EDGE, etc.) for internet connection.

kudos1uk

2008-05-11 21:11

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180257)

Someone could take a clean chinook flash, diabolize it, tar it up, and get their server hammered by everyone downloading it and untarring it on their mmcs, while complaining loudly and bitterly because there's no .deb. And, a few, failing, and complaining ever louder and bitterer.

Why does it sound better to update it yourself...

Steps (as I understand it):

Remove any of
- modest
- powerlaunch
- spellchecker browser add-on
which is installed. (Modest is now default, you can try reinstalling powerlaunch and spellchecker when you're done.)
Edit the sources list as suggested here.
Follow mvo's instructions, summary:

Anyone who can't do that probably wouldn't succeed with a tarred rootfs, either.

Help us out with this one, I'm fine with all this except what I should do with the sources list, I just can't work it out.

Aisu	2008-05-11 21:21

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

I posted mine up earlier, somewhere in this long-*** thread...

Benson

2008-05-11 21:23

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Change chinook to diablo?

Aisu	2008-05-11 21:26

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Code:

deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user

deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user

deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/ ./

deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ diablo free non-free

qwerty12

2008-05-11 21:26

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Benson,

you know you wanna post a sed line :p

kudos1uk

2008-05-11 21:29

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180541)

Change chinook to diablo?

Is it locked down now then?

http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/

Wants a username and password, might be why I'm getting nowhere

Benson

2008-05-11 21:54

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 180543)

Benson,

you know you wanna post a sed line :p

s/air/clue/
(j/k) ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudos1uk (Post 180545)

Is it locked down now then?

http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/

Wants a username and password, might be why I'm getting nowhere

As for login, faheem said it was working anyway. Perhaps it detects whether you use a web browser or apt-get, and only demands auth for the browser.

joepagiii

2008-05-11 22:08

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

couldn't you use apt get fetch to get it and save it for later installing....onn a desktop

luca	2008-05-11 22:22

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180550)

As for login, faheem said it was working anyway. Perhaps it detects whether you use a web browser or apt-get, and only demands auth for the browser.

I tried faking the user agent with wget but it didn't work:

Code:

$ LC_ALL=C wget --user-agent="Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (0.7.6maemo2)" http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/Packages

--00:18:24--  http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/Packages

           => `Packages'

Resolving catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com... 64.215.156.19

Connecting to catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com|64.215.156.19|:80... connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized

Authorization failed.

kudos1uk

2008-05-12 00:09

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180550)

s/air/clue/
(j/k) ;)

As for login, faheem said it was working anyway. Perhaps it detects whether you use a web browser or apt-get, and only demands auth for the browser.

Nope, password protected now.

GeneralAntilles

2008-05-12 00:20

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudos1uk (Post 180582)

Nope, password protected now.

Who wants to go through and try all the default login combinations? admin/admin, admin/pass, root/pass, root/admin, root/rootme, default/pass. . . . ;)

sd_proto

2008-05-12 01:04

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

None of those logins/passwds worked for me.

Like I mentioned regrettably last night in my last post, I was afraid this was going to happen before I got to it. Maybe I jinxed things! :(

qwerty12 - any chance of tarring up the packages and someone hosting them?

grovel, grovel, grovel..... :D

Edit: The apt-get is failing for me:

"Couldn't stat source package list..."

"No such file or directiory"

"Couldn't find package osso-software-version-rx34-unlocked"

blah-blah-blah

netss

2008-05-12 01:47

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

ahahah
diablo go back

rcadden

2008-05-12 02:06

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 180425)

Not sure. I did submit a request for restoring manual refresh, though, based on rcadden's (tabletguru) input.

Well, I suppose it's OK to say I've been running it for a while, then, since @Texrat outed me. :)

Texrat

2008-05-12 02:45

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcadden (Post 180615)

Well, I suppose it's OK to say I've been running it for a while, then, since @Texrat outed me. :)

You're not on jaiku ya numbnut.

And stoopid me, I didn't think about how that had to be explained. :o :D

qwerty12

2008-05-12 05:54

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd_proto (Post 180596)

I'm not uploading a 147MB tar package straight. When I reboot into windows, I'll see if I can make a split rar file and upload to mediafire. Someone else can download and mirror of there if they wish.

Rar files shouldn't matter in this case as debs are just debs, no permissions needed. If someone doesn't like rars, tough.

If you symlink your archives directory to the memory card, you can directly extract the debs in there and run the apt-get command. I'll see, I'm super tired right now and my upload speed is kinda crap (hence the split rars).

Also, field test display works better with the diablo kernel (you get new /proc entries). I'm waiting for the GIMP to compile so I can carry on with the initfs.

Benson

2008-05-12 06:41

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Torrent could work, too. I'd be willing to host it (500 MB free University web space), but I don't need a run-in with OIT if Nokia contacts them. Too many fuzzy rules to make me want attention.

qwerty12

2008-05-12 06:53

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

That is true. Some files in there are copyrighted (bt-firmware & wlan-firmware etc afaik). I don't have the time, patience or the money to fight against what may happen if I did upload those packages.

qwerty12

2008-05-12 07:01

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Ok, I can't seem to make a proper initfs image so here are the ipv6 modules from the diablo image:

http://www.mediafire.com/?hxmpmb39wwy

Extract somwhere and point the ipv6 script to the new place.

Extracted by qwerty12 :cool:

genome4hire

2008-05-12 07:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

Maemo is a community project, and Nokia depends on the goodwill of open source developers for the success of the N8x0 and future devices.

I highly doubt if they'd be stupid enough to threaten to sue a maemo customer for tinkering with the platform.

Regardless, if -anyone- else has the files, and uses Tor (www.torproject.org) to anonymously upload them somewhere - many of us would be very appreciative.

Chris

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 180662)

Benson

2008-05-12 07:08

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Well, I, at least, am not concerned about an actual lawsuit; I can see them requesting it be taken down though, and I don't like the idea of them contacting the OIT about it, and requesting they be pulled down, and then I get unwanted scrutiny from OIT for anything else I do that might be a gray area. So I don't want it such request-bait on my webspace.

But I'd happily seed a torrent...

sd_proto

2008-05-12 07:39

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12

I'm not uploading a 147MB tar package straight. When I reboot into windows, I'll see if I can make a split rar file and upload to mediafire. Someone else can download and mirror of there if they wish.

Rar files shouldn't matter in this case as debs are just debs, no permissions needed. If someone doesn't like rars, tough.

If you symlink your archives directory to the memory card, you can directly extract the debs in there and run the apt-get command. I'll see, I'm super tired right now and my upload speed is kinda crap (hence the split rars).

I was thinking torrent also and I wasn't demanding any particular format. I don't consider 147Mb to be that unreasonably huge, but if you're willing to share it on whatever terms you consider reasonable that would be generous of you.

PM me or one of us if you decide to let one of us have them and I'm sure we can find a way to "seed" them....

In any case someone PM me if you have them and want to share. :)

Thanks

anidel

2008-05-12 07:46

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Oh well, I read this too late.
Would have been nice to check the new Diablo earlier, but well.. if they don't want to, then I will respect their wish and won't try it out.
After all, we'll just have to wait one or two months, I hope..

Keep letting us know about any new discovery you'll make with Diablo as we're more than willing to read them! ;)

anidel

2008-05-12 10:57

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

A note: it should be possible, for us Chinook users, to at least update the flash player, right ?
What do you think querty12 ?

qwerty12

2008-05-12 11:53

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 180702)

A note: it should be possible, for us Chinook users, to at least update the flash player, right ?
What do you think querty12 ?

It could be done theorecically (spelling). The original flash player package in chinook is replaced with one of a new name. I would guess that you would need Navi's SVN build of MicroB installed too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd_proto (Post 180674)

My torrent upload speed is really crap. 147MB isn't huge but when you have a upload speed like mine. It took me 15 mins to upload the kernel source for lardman.

Tor sounds interesting but it kinda defeats the point if I say I will upload. So I might (and I really do mean might) upload. Sorry for being a prick but you know.

Reggie

2008-05-12 15:38

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

If I can suggest or even beg, please avoid spreading the Diablo pre-release since it still contains a lot of bugs which non-tech-savvy members might not appreciate and not know how to fix.

For those who have uploaded them somewhere, please avoid posting the download links directly. Tech-savvy members who really want to try out Diablo (at their own risk), please just PM the members who have the links.

Thanks.

qwerty12

2008-05-12 16:32

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

qwerty12 is the king ;)

I'm running the Diablo initfs.

I used fanoush's initfs flasher removal list to rip out the files on my computer.

BME in battery information isn't working but the ipv6 script runs. Here is some proof, look at the screenie. Anyone running diablo officially hopefully should be able to confirm. (If you don't get what the proof is, then this doesn't apply to you ;))

http://i32.tinypic.com/2me1zs8.jpg

joepagiii

2008-05-12 16:35

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 180780)

i can say i was tempted to try...however...i did laundry instead...

Gourmand

2008-05-12 16:58

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

will wait for official release, I beleive not so long time...

Bundyo

2008-05-12 18:33

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Okay guys, the new Flash 9 (reported version 9.0.31) works on OS2008 with the old browser, but you need to copy three files - libflashplayer, libcrypto and libssl (0.9.8 for these two).

EDIT: It also almost works in OS2008HE :) One can only get the version though.

Bundyo

2008-05-13 07:09

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

In Diablo, metalayer-crawler0 starts in rc3.d, so the disable command after stopping the daemon should be:

Code:

mv /etc/rc3.d/S99metalayer-crawler0 /etc/rc3.d/K99metalayer-crawler0

@Qwerty12: browserd is MicroB related daemon here, not Samba.

EDIT: In fact browserd is taking care of the browser windows management and it is the reason only one window dies in a crash.

qwerty12

2008-05-13 11:44

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 180997)

@Qwerty12: browserd is MicroB related daemon here, not Samba.

EDIT: In fact browserd is taking care of the browser windows management and it is the reason only one window dies in a crash.

I know, I realised it afterwards. Benson said it was samba related.

qgil	2008-05-13 11:55

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 180780)

Seconded and I couldn't have said this better. You got the scoop and you had fun. I don't want to play the devil advocate's role ;) but now please keep the software for yourselves. Not (only) because the license says A, B, C but (specially) because what you have is not final software and in the hands of non-expert users it might create evil confusion and trouble.

Wait just a bit and you will have a proper Diablo release. We can't tell exactly when but surely after an amount of time you can afford. Why not contributing new http://maemo.org/downloads/product/O...numptyphysics/ levels in the meantime? :)

Thanks!

Texrat

2008-05-13 12:09

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

These guys are too resourceful for their own good. Especially this qwerty kid. I suggest we quarantine 'em all on some remote island with no internet access.

:D

joepagiii

2008-05-13 12:16

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 181034)

These guys are too resourceful for their own good. Especially this qwerty kid. I suggest we quarantine 'em all on some remote island with no internet access.

:D

nahh theyd mcguyver something outa cocunut s and whatnots....

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