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Addison 2009-09-21 17:18

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Okay, so I'm trying to catch up on the current times with everyone else.

How can I send a text message since I'm unable to find a way of doing so.

I currently have Dialcentral 1.0.5 but have not installed Gizmo on my tablet.

Sorry for being so knowledge deficit on this but I'm willing to learn. :)

epage 2009-09-21 17:36

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330776)
Okay, so I'm trying to catch up on the current times with everyone else.

How can I send a text message since I'm unable to find a way of doing so.

I currently have Dialcentral 1.0.5 but have not installed Gizmo on my tablet.

Sorry for being so knowledge deficit on this but I'm willing to learn. :)

Unlike making calls, sending a text doesn't touch Gizmo.

Just enter a phone number or select a contact and select "SMS". You should get a dialog with a text area you can enter your message into and then select "Send" and all should be good.

Addison 2009-09-21 17:44

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Sounds too easy! *lol*

So with SMS I can send text messages to friends with cell phones?

Can I also forward or view text messages I've received on my own cell phone as well?

I don't have my cell phone as a forwarding number since I thought that would eat minutes off of the device.

lemmyslender 2009-09-21 17:58

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
You can send SMS to your friends, it will appear to come from your google voice # though. They can text back to your google voice #. Those will show up online and in Dialcentral.

You can set google voice to forward SMS to your cell # and reply back (they will also appear to come from your google voice #).

*EDIT* It won't eat minutes from your cell unless you answer it.

epage 2009-09-21 18:11

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330795)
Sounds too easy! *lol*

Well, the interface can always be improved

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330795)
So with SMS I can send text messages to friends with cell phones?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330795)
Can I also forward or view text messages I've received on my own cell phone as well?

You can only view texts received through your GoogleVoice account.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330795)
I don't have my cell phone as a forwarding number since I thought that would eat minutes off of the device.

The only phone number I give out is my GoogleVoice number. So all texts come to that and I don't have to think about it. Sometimes I take calls on my cell, sometimes through a SIP client, and sometimes through Skype.

Addison 2009-09-21 18:15

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Thanks!

I just sent my first ever text message!

I feel like such a man right now, I just want to go out and chop some wood! :D

One last question for the day.

How can I clear out dialed numbers and messages received? I'm not finding a delete option anywhere.

I still have yet to use this thing to make an outgoing phone call. I tried earlier today to call home but it didn't work. My wife got the phone call but I couldn't hear anything on my end, even after using the volume slider.

Is that because the number I called is also my forwarding number as well?

I think I'll try to work on that tomorrow since this is a really neat application to play around with. :)

heavyt 2009-09-21 19:56

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 330808)
Thanks!


How can I clear out dialed numbers and messages received? I'm not finding a delete option anywhere.

I still have yet to use this thing to make an outgoing phone call. I tried earlier today to call home but it didn't work. My wife got the phone call but I couldn't hear anything on my end, even after using the volume slider.

. :)

You have to go to GV website to clear messages and phone numbers.

Outbound callīs audio works sometimes and other times no. I have found no solid reason for this. :(

Addison 2009-09-22 02:16

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Stupid question, but is it not possible to add Contacts for Google Voice on the Nokia Tablet?

It seems like java doesn't want to do anything when I try too add a friend.

The only way I can do so is by adding them from my computer.

Thanks!

epage 2009-09-22 02:19

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 331115)
Stupid question, but is it not possible to add Contacts for Google Voice on the Nokia Tablet?

It seems like java doesn't want to do anything when I try too add a friend.

The only way I can do so is by adding them from my computer.

Thanks!

That is correct, I do not provide contact management

Addison 2009-09-22 02:24

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Oh shoot!

I meant to say from the website https://www.google.com/voice from the Tablet.

Sorry.

Oh, and I just made my first phone call today. It was awesome!

I even was left a voice mail that wrote the message in text to easily read from a friend without any misspellings or wrong words added.

I'm smiling like crazy over here! :D

I had no idea how cool this whole thing could be!

Many thanks for this!

n9ots 2009-09-22 17:51

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Strange quirk here...Reflashed my Tablet to see it would finally allow me to log into GoogleTalk (was getting "unknown error occured while validating server's ssl certificate)...This problem was solved with the flash ...then I Install DialCentral...before the flash I had no issues logging into GoogleVoice via DialCentral...yet after the flash all that happens is I enter my id and password and the program refuses the first attemt and then hangs on the second attempt.

Have purged the program and tried reinstalling....purged and tried older versions...
Really doubt that the the googletalk and google voice have any effect on the other ...just a very strange coincidence

Any ideas would be appreciated

epage 2009-09-22 17:53

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 331663)
Strange quirk here...Reflashed my Tablet to see it would finally allow me to log into GoogleTalk (was getting "unknown error occured while validating server's ssl certificate)...This problem was solved with the flash ...then I Install DialCentral...before the flash I had no issues logging into GoogleVoice via DialCentral...yet after the flash all that happens is I enter my id and password and the program refuses the first attemt and then hangs on the second attempt.

Have purged the program and tried reinstalling....purged and tried older versions...
Really doubt that the the googletalk and google voice have any effect on the other ...just a very strange coincidence

Any ideas would be appreciated

Would you mind grabbing and posting the file "~/.dialcentral/dialcentral.log"?

Texrat 2009-09-22 18:05

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
hey epage, latest version on extras-devel (installed today) doesn't crash now, thanks.

But the SMS dialog comes up with no way for me to enter text... is that not working yet?

n9ots 2009-09-22 18:21

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 331665)
Would you mind grabbing and posting the file "~/.dialcentral/dialcentral.log"?

here you go:



RuntimeError: Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice
WARNING:root:Performing download of https://www.google.com/voice/mobile/phones
ERROR:root:Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/gv_backend.py", line 134, in is_authed
self._grab_account_info()
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/gv_backend.py", line 428, in _grab_account_info
raise RuntimeError("Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice")
RuntimeError: Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice
WARNING:root:Performing download of https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLoginAuth
WARNING:root:Performing download of https://www.google.com/voice/mobile/phones
ERROR:root:Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/gv_backend.py", line 134, in is_authed
self._grab_account_info()
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/gv_backend.py", line 428, in _grab_account_info
raise RuntimeError("Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice")
RuntimeError: Could not extract authentication token from GoogleVoice
ERROR:root:update() got an unexpected keyword argument 'force'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/dc_glade.py", line 675, in _on_tab_refresh
self._refresh_active_tab()
File "/usr/lib/dialcentral/dc_glade.py", line 536, in _refresh_active_tab
self._recentViews[self._selectedBackendId].update(force=True)
TypeError: update() got an unexpected keyword argument 'force'

edited for space ... full log in the attached zip

Have fun

ben

Addison 2009-09-22 18:54

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
How are you guys adding names to your Google Contact list?

Microb just hangs on the Google Voice website.

Tear actually works fairly well but the names in the list are stacked too closely on top of eachother making them impossible to read.

Are you all just adding names from a PC or is there some kind of trick around this?

Addison 2009-09-22 23:25

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Name calling.......... That's real mature there, Boogerbutt! :)

I've been there before with plugins and java ready to go but there isn't an option to either delete or add a contact at that mobile site.

I can only view the contacts.

Am I missing something?

heavyt 2009-09-23 01:07

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 331830)
Name calling.......... That's real mature there, Boogerbutt! :)

I've been there before with plugins and java ready to go but there isn't an option to either delete or add a contact at that mobile site.

I can only view the contacts.

Am I missing something?

No you are not missing anything, you have to use a pc and go to google voice website.

epage 2009-09-23 01:23

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 331670)
hey epage, latest version on extras-devel (installed today) doesn't crash now, thanks.

But the SMS dialog comes up with no way for me to enter text... is that not working yet?

I just tested 1.0.6-5 on my tablet and I could enter text. It isn't very clear though. You have to click on the big white area that looks exactly like every other area. Hmm, I'll look into that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 331680)
here you go:

edited for space ... full log in the attached zip

Have fun

ben

Just to double check, you are aware you are running a version of Dialcentral from extras-devel and not extras? If so thank you for being a willing subject to finding issues. Beware some builds I upload don't work at all.

This issue though is quite .. peculiar. It got into an infinite loop with authentication and I have no clue why.

n9ots 2009-09-23 01:34

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 331880)
Just to double check, you are aware you are running a version of Dialcentral from extras-devel and not extras? If so thank you for being a willing subject to finding issues. Beware some builds I upload don't work at all.

This issue though is quite .. peculiar. It got into an infinite loop with authentication and I have no clue why.

Hello:
Was using the latest in Extras....Enabled developers...Installed latest up date...same issue...going to try purging and installing latest clean...see what happens.
Have always loved the quirks of not fully finished software.

Have fun
ben

epage 2009-09-23 01:38

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 331886)
Hello:
Was using the latest in Extras....Enabled developers...Installed latest up date...same issue...going to try purging and installing latest clean...see what happens.
Have always loved the quirks of not fully finished software.

Have fun
ben

Your log file lists 1.0.6-5 which hasn't been promoted yet to extras.

n9ots 2009-09-23 03:23

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 331888)
Your log file lists 1.0.6-5 which hasn't been promoted yet to extras.

True...do not remember having developers enabled...must have at some point

Purged 1.0.6-5 and installed 1.0.5-4 produced same results

attached is latest log.
let me know if there is any further info I can provide

Texrat 2009-09-23 03:27

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 331880)
I just tested 1.0.6-5 on my tablet and I could enter text. It isn't very clear though. You have to click on the big white area that looks exactly like every other area. Hmm, I'll look into that.

I figured that was it, but just now learned it takes several clicks to get the virtual keyboard up (the first time anyway). For me anyway.

Whoa-- message sent and received! sweet! Now if I could just get calls working... usually nothing happens but just now when I called out to my cell from my N810, the N810 started ringing! :eek:

UPDATE: okay, I see what's happening with calls...

1) I dial out from N810 to cell using Dial central
2) a few seconds later my PC rings-- I had Google Talk logged in there also.
3) after a couple of rings, I see that Google Talk is sending a call to my N810
4) I answer, and a few seconds later, my cell phone rings, showing the Google Talk number on caller ID
5) I answer the cell, and then it and the N810 are connected

Odd behavior, but at least calls connected. My only problem now is being able to hear the recipient on my N810... a problem I'm troubleshooting elsewhere.

epage 2009-09-23 03:32

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 331930)
I figured that was it, but just now learned it takes several clicks to get the virtual keyboard up (the first time anyway). For me anyway.

Whoa-- message sent and received! sweet! Now if I could just get calls working... usually nothing happens but just now when I called out to my cell from my N810, the N810 started ringing! :eek:

Hopefully what I have in SVN improves on this. I've been playing with different UI tweaks to improve behavior on Fremantle which some have trickled into Diablo support.

epage 2009-09-23 03:37

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 331927)
True...do not remember having developers enabled...must have at some point

Purged 1.0.6-5 and installed 1.0.5-4 produced same results

attached is latest log.
let me know if there is any further info I can provide

Just because its confusing me, to reiterate the issue you see is on start up it asks your credentials. You hit ok. The dialog appears again. You try again and hit ok. The dialog stays up and doesn't allow you to do anything, its hung?

I'm really confused as to why its hanging... grrr

n9ots 2009-09-23 03:51

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 331935)
Just because its confusing me, to reiterate the issue you see is on start up it asks your credentials. You hit ok. The dialog appears again. You try again and hit ok. The dialog stays up and doesn't allow you to do anything, its hung?

I'm really confused as to why its hanging... grrr

the second time I enter my credentials the dialog box disappears when I hit "OK" then the program kind of hangs...while it fails to log in I can still manipulate the program.i.e. if I press and hold "recent" I get an error line along the bottom stating "update() got an unexpected keyword argument 'force' " figure this is due to not being logged in but shows that some part of the program is responsive...

epage 2009-09-24 00:39

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 331939)
the second time I enter my credentials the dialog box disappears when I hit "OK" then the program kind of hangs...while it fails to log in I can still manipulate the program.i.e. if I press and hold "recent" I get an error line along the bottom stating "update() got an unexpected keyword argument 'force' " figure this is due to not being logged in but shows that some part of the program is responsive...

Oh, part of that is expected, part of that is not. After two attempts, I give up and stop showing the login dialog. The force errors is not expected.

Should I make it on one attempt or should I make it continue for forever?

n9ots 2009-09-24 01:06

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 332585)
Oh, part of that is expected, part of that is not. After two attempts, I give up and stop showing the login dialog. The force errors is not expected.

Should I make it on one attempt or should I make it continue for forever?

The log-in box only appears twice. After the second attempt it remains hidden (can bring it back with the new login menu item)

and just to clarify the login format should be username@gmail.com correct?

epage 2009-09-24 01:12

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 332600)
The log-in box only appears twice. After the second attempt it remains hidden (can bring it back with the new login menu item)

and just to clarify the login format should be username@gmail.com correct?

I actually think you leave off @gmail.com

n9ots 2009-09-24 01:21

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 332603)
I actually think you leave off @gmail.com

Have tried it both ways...same results

TronDD 2009-09-24 01:22

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
I have the same login issue.

I also uninstalled and deleted my .dialcentral directory. Dialcentral failed to launch until I created the .dialcentral directory myself. It's not creating it at startup.

Using version 1.0.5-4

epage 2009-09-24 01:41

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 332605)
Have tried it both ways...same results


Quote:

Originally Posted by TronDD (Post 332606)
I have the same login issue.

I also uninstalled and deleted my .dialcentral directory. Dialcentral failed to launch until I created the .dialcentral directory myself. It's not creating it at startup.

Using version 1.0.5-4

Yes manually creating that directory is a known bug with that release. Sorry about that.

For both of you:
  • Have you successfully used Dialcentral before?
  • Did you upgrade, clear the settings folder, uninstall/reinstall, or reflash between breakage?
  • Can you name at least the date of when you first noticed it?

My small glimmer of a hope is that Google is rolling out a GoogleVoice upgrade and I just haven't seen it yet. If that is the case, I'll try and get a fix out as soon as possible to fix login. Otherwise, I'm baffled.

epage 2009-09-24 01:44

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Just because I know people jump the gun on extras-devel, I thought I'd give a heads up that I just uploaded 1.0.6-6 to extras-devel. I've tested this on Ubuntu and within Mer 0.16-testing5. I won't have a chance to test it on Diablo until its in extras-devel so it could be broken.

The feature list for 1.0.6 at the point of 1.0.6-6 includes but not limited to:
* Adding seperator between dialcentral launches in log
* Implemented a work around for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4957
* Disables notifications on uninstall
* Including a vastly improved py2deb for better packages (icons on package, etc)
* Tweaked sizes of stuff on recent tab
* Starting some work on rotation support for fremantle
* Made startup more error resistant
* Simplified menus
* Fremantle: Making various areas pannable
* Phone selection and SMS Message dialogs now use a tree view for the top part. This gives highlighting of the last message, easier scrolling, easier code, etc
* Added notifcations for various things like login and dialing
* UI Tweak: Switch to accounts tab when logging in and callback is blank as a sublte hint to configure it
* UI Tweak: Switch to accounts tab on failed login to remind the user they are not logged in
* Bug Fix: some dependencies for Diablo
* Bug Fix: Error on refreshing tabs when not logged in
* Bug Fix: #4471 Notification Checkbox Won't Stay Checked (hour roll over error)
* Bug Fix: Phone numbers in voicemails wouldn't appear
* Bug Fix: category for Fremantle/Diablo
* Bug Fix: needing to manually create "~/.dialcentral" due to earlier logging changes
* Bug Fix: dependencies for fremantle
* Bug Fix: Issues when trying to stack error messages
* Bug Fix: Python2.6 deprecates some stuff I did

EDIT1: There are several issues with the new UI work that I need to resolve

EDIT2: 1.0.6-8 seems to be doing the trick for me.

n9ots 2009-09-24 01:49

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 332611)
Yes manually creating that directory is a known bug with that release. Sorry about that.

For both of you:
  • Have you successfully used Dialcentral before?
  • Did you upgrade, clear the settings folder, uninstall/reinstall, or reflash between breakage?
  • Can you name at least the date of when you first noticed it?

My small glimmer of a hope is that Google is rolling out a GoogleVoice upgrade and I just haven't seen it yet. If that is the case, I'll try and get a fix out as soon as possible to fix login. Otherwise, I'm baffled.

Just noticed it after a reflash...was working fine until then..was using it daily...reflashed on Sept 17...problem appeared after flash..did clear settings folder..have had issues with logging into google with other software so I will always believe that they are the cause of all the confusion

TronDD 2009-09-24 02:05

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Gah, I had a really thorough reply typed up then Tear crashed. :(

I used Dialcentral pre 1.0 successfully. I forget what version it was, I had. I stopped using it until recently and I think a couple of updates came during that time. Not until I had 1.0.5-4 did I go to use it again and I couldn't log in. I tried it for the first time about a week ago.

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
uninstalling, deleting .dialcentral/, reinstalling
uninstalling, deleting .dialcentral/, reinstalling, rebooting
No difference. I have not reflashed anything.

Nothing is logged to the console when run from the command line.

I think I'll try what is in extras-devel

EDIT: 1.0.6-5 is the same deal. No 'force' error when refreshing, though. :)

n9ots 2009-09-24 04:04

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epage (Post 332611)
Yes manually creating that directory is a known bug with that release. Sorry about that.

For both of you:
  • Have you successfully used Dialcentral before?
  • Did you upgrade, clear the settings folder, uninstall/reinstall, or reflash between breakage?
  • Can you name at least the date of when you first noticed it?

My small glimmer of a hope is that Google is rolling out a GoogleVoice upgrade and I just haven't seen it yet. If that is the case, I'll try and get a fix out as soon as possible to fix login. Otherwise, I'm baffled.

Figured it couldn't hurt to try the newest in developers...same experience
from the log I see that it is expecting info to already be in the settings.ini
wondering if I could manually edit the ini to contain the info it needs...

purged (using: apt-get --purge dialcentral....then manually removing the ini file and the file located in /usr/lib/dialcentral) the old ver then installed 1.0.6-7

n9ots 2009-09-24 04:11

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by n9ots (Post 332649)
from the log I see that it is expecting info to already be in the settings.ini
wondering if I could manually edit the ini to contain the info it needs...

here is the log

mrdally204 2009-09-24 09:25

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
epage I was just giving 1.0.6-7 a run. The only thing I see "broke" at the moment is the contacts are not loading for me. I do love how the last message that was sent is highlighted. I gives it a nice clean look. I think that the screen that pops up when you click on a message is a little redundant as I noted on one of the messaging UI stream line requests, but thats minor.

Could you provide the location in your code that needs to be changed to make the font larger. I think I am the minority in wanting it larger so I'll do it manually with a little direction from you.

Thanks for the progress and keep working on it. I find myself checking daily to see if there is a new build :)

**EDIT** Can you possibly add the option to type in the time to check for new messages again. I found that 2 mins was my sweet spot and its a goner. Maybe an "Other" setting that lets you type in the time.

**EDIT2** The refresh for messages also appears to be broke. It shuts off the blinking LED but does not update the message list.

epage 2009-09-24 14:47

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdally204 (Post 332772)
epage I was just giving 1.0.6-7 a run. The only thing I see "broke" at the moment is the contacts are not loading for me. I do love how the last message that was sent is highlighted. I gives it a nice clean look. I think that the screen that pops up when you click on a message is a little redundant as I noted on one of the messaging UI stream line requests, but thats minor.

Could you provide the location in your code that needs to be changed to make the font larger. I think I am the minority in wanting it larger so I'll do it manually with a little direction from you.

Thanks for the progress and keep working on it. I find myself checking daily to see if there is a new build :)

**EDIT** Can you possibly add the option to type in the time to check for new messages again. I found that 2 mins was my sweet spot and its a goner. Maybe an "Other" setting that lets you type in the time.

**EDIT2** The refresh for messages also appears to be broke. It shuts off the blinking LED but does not update the message list.

I haven't explicitly tested refreshing messages but overall 1.0.6-8 should make things a lot better. My new (broken) notification code seemed to have broken other things as well.

Addison 2009-09-24 22:58

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
I really need some help in organizing all of this together into something that's easy and manageable.

I have:
3 email accounts including hotmail, yahoo, and gmail
1 cell phone
1 house phone
Pidgin
Tear web browser installed

I guess I'm having diffculty understanding how to tie all of these together.

Could a few people care to share their working setup on how you find it easiest to send and receive voice and text messages?

Thanks.

mrdally204 2009-09-25 00:39

Re: Dialcentral 1.0
 
A lot depends on the cell plan you have. If you have a my circle, you can set up google voice to transmit YOUR google voice caller ID on each incoming call, making all calls you receive free. You can then see who is calling by answering the phone. If you dont want to talk to em just hang up and they never know :) If you are a real cheap skate, you can even make all your calls for free by calling your google voice # from the cell (free in the "my circle" situation) and then initiating the outgoing call from your voicemail menu. Personally I found myself using my cell at home all the time. So I ditched it and went prepaid for emergencies only and invested in a magicjack for home. Lets face it, most of us are not important/entertaining enough to justify being on the phone all the time! I use gizmo5 on the tablet as it receives calls from google voice for free. Home phone I have magicjack (line 1) set up on an ata and gizmo5 (Line 2, different from the N810 account). I then have each line associated with google voice. For text messages I was originally using google email with my tablet. Since notifications are now possible with dialcentral, I am using it to text. You can have both gmail and hotmail on your tablet, Yahoo does not support POP3 or IMAP.

Now, my outgoing calls from home show up a different number than what people call me on (google voice). It was a bit confusing at first to most of the people that called, but once they stored both numbers in their cell phone it was easy for them to remember which to call. When dialing from the nokia via dialcentral it will show your google voice number.

It took a few weeks, but now everyone calls my google voice number. I have all my voice mails turned off so Google Voice handles it all. If I get a voice mail, I am notified by dial central blink and I also set up my gmail account to receive notifications from the GV website for fail safe. It may seem a bit redundant, but its nice to have back up in case one goes down.

*** I use the built in client for gizmo5 SIP connection as it automatically connects whenever I am online. No need for a second client. Also, depending on the IM services you use, the built in client now supports most protocols with the RTCOMM beta release (search the boards for install instructions). I like having everything built in a nice little package. Less programs I need to run the better :) If you need more ideas let me know.


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