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mooninite 2010-02-17 22:48

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 532004)
Even Meego supporting GTK it would be harder (read expensive) for Sygic to support both Maemo 5 and Meego source codes, while they could have done it with Qt in order to reduce their efforts.

Please stop spreading FUD. GTK and Qt will be equally supported under MeeGo. Sygic will not "lose money" by using GTK.

russo_br 2010-02-18 17:07

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by mooninite (Post 533215)
Please stop spreading FUD. GTK and Qt will be equally supported under MeeGo. Sygic will not "lose money" by using GTK.

So please explain with arguments why you think I am spreading FUD, otherwise you're just acting like a fanboy... and probably one who never wrote any sw at all...

As I said applications wrote with GTK will need more work to port it to Meego than QT applications (GTK apps in general, not just Sygic), isn't that true???

Nokia is advising developers to choose QT for some time now. If GTK is equally supported like you said, what is the point of that?? Supported is different from seamlessly portability...

mikkov 2010-02-18 17:17

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 534803)
Nokia is advising developers to choose QT for some time now. If GTK is equally supported like you said, what is the point of that?? Supported is different from seamlessly portability...

What is your point here? Originally it was announced even before Maemo5 launch that Maemo6 (now MeeGo) will be moving to QT, everybody has known that. Now with MeeGo there will be GTK support too.

Sygic doesn't look like GTK application and my guess is that they are using their own graphics toolkit (maybe OpenGL based?), because the applicaiton looks the same as in iPhone for example.

russo_br 2010-02-19 02:28

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 534823)
What is your point here? Originally it was announced even before Maemo5 launch that Maemo6 (now MeeGo) will be moving to QT, everybody has known that. Now with MeeGo there will be GTK support too.

Sygic doesn't look like GTK application and my guess is that they are using their own graphics toolkit (maybe OpenGL based?), because the applicaiton looks the same as in iPhone for example.

My original question was if Sygic is using Qt or not, and it is still unanswered. My point is that, as a potential byuer, I would like to know if the GPS app I acquire could run on other Meego devices when I sell my N900. This was the speech from Nokia, that Qt will bring the benefit of carrying your apps between mobiles.

It was just a doubt, but an important one if you are thinking on spending 80+ euros on a GPS app, not to mention that we already paid 600 euros for N900 and Nokia is offering free navigation for much cheapier devices...

Viipottaja 2010-02-19 02:40

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
i think nokia was talking about developers

mooninite 2010-02-19 04:41

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
This is my last reply to you, russo_br. If you wish to have a decent conversation with me, just let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 534803)
So please explain with arguments why you think I am spreading FUD, otherwise you're just acting like a fanboy... and probably one who never wrote any sw at all...

I sure hope I've written software. I do it for a living. Oh, and I've made a few Maemo apps.
Quote:

As I said applications wrote with GTK will need more work to port it to Meego than QT applications (GTK apps in general, not just Sygic), isn't that true???
And how do you base your opinion? Have you made a Maemo app? The only thing that will need "porting" is moving away from Hildon, which isn't earth shattering or cause to think porting will take 30 developers months to do.
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Nokia is advising developers to choose QT for some time now. If GTK is equally supported like you said, what is the point of that?? Supported is different from seamlessly portability...
Nokia purchased Trolltech, creators of Qt. Nokia wants to push Qt across to Symbian as well. Their advice is nothing more than marketing. If you are not interested in supporting Symbian devices then you don't have to use Qt.

taril 2010-02-19 08:47

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
I asked again about it states:

Sygic is testing its navigation software on N900 and other Nokia phones (new symbian maybe). So, you dont have to wait too much, maybe it will be released in the late summer (august).

bockersjv 2010-02-19 09:12

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Late summer, are they kidding is was supposedly ready pre Christmas? The lack of any concrete info unfortunaltely still leads me to the conclusion that this app will never see the light of day :(

I had hoped that with the Ovi Paid apps fix in the last PR that it would allow Sygic to release. Maybe they are waiting for the bigger firmware update?

Frappacino 2010-02-19 09:33

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august? in time for meego ? lol

NokiaRocks 2010-02-19 09:55

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August. LoL
I've been waiting since December and really need Turn by Turn navigation now :/
Now I gotta buy a N97 or something like that to use Ovi Maps :(

bozskydave 2010-02-19 10:30

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Still not in Ovi Store. May be they added in new FW 1.2 on the end of February...

Laughing Man 2010-02-19 11:25

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 536176)
Late summer, are they kidding is was supposedly ready pre Christmas? The lack of any concrete info unfortunaltely still leads me to the conclusion that this app will never see the light of day :(

I had hoped that with the Ovi Paid apps fix in the last PR that it would allow Sygic to release. Maybe they are waiting for the bigger firmware update?

They had fixed the Ovi store problem in the last update? And they probably are waiting for 1.2 if their app uses QT 4.6.

russo_br 2010-02-19 15:10

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 536367)
They had fixed the Ovi store problem in the last update? And they probably are waiting for 1.2 if their app uses QT 4.6.

That's another reason why it should be worthy to know it Sygic uses QT or not. But if they do all the speech about launching the product last years was just lies...

Hardknox 2010-02-22 20:13

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
It's terrible what you write. However I'll be forced to sell my n900. I have had enough deception from 3 months promises from Sygic navigation. Regret that I got rid of the iPhone because that phone have a choice of software, and here I only have promises. Surely the next phone will be the Google Nexus One rather has to Navigon. Maemo is only Linux, but poor development forgotten from Nokia

mtjioe 2010-02-23 10:23

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Hi Hardknox,

the problem is with Nokia and the Ovistore still not accepting commercial content and not with Sygic.
I think that Sygic should seriously consider publish their program themselves..

jjenkins334 2010-02-23 15:35

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I've been keeping up with this thread, but it's been dragging on for a while now, and I can't remember what's been posted.

Is there a possibility that Nokia wants to buy Sygic,and use their software as the new Ovi Maps for Maemo/Meego?

sjgadsby 2010-02-23 15:44

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 533078)
Sorry forgot about this thread. Maybe Mods could merge. Cheers.

The thread "Sygic navigation to be unvailed" with one post has been merged into this thread.

KLB 2010-02-23 21:49

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by bozskydave (Post 536275)
Still not in Ovi Store. May be they added in new FW 1.2 on the end of February...

All of this talk about Ovi makes no sense to me....Sygic allows you to purchase and download their app directly from their site for other phones...why would they let Ovi delays hold them from releasing for the n900, month after month??

Viipottaja 2010-02-23 21:52

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
That would _only_ make sense if they have some pre-agreement with Nokia to only offer it through the Ovi Store...

KLB 2010-02-23 21:56

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Agree...but that seems odd, since I was able to walk all the way thru the checkout for the n97 (symbian) version. About the only conjecture I've seen that does make much sense is about some possible purchase....they of course wouldn't be able to mention it ahead of time to anyone. Otherwise, they'd have to have the worst public relations department in the world to let this go on like it has. <g>

nilsbenson 2010-02-23 22:25

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
This was posted waaay back in the beginning of one these threads.

Nokia wants Sygic to be one of their release partners for the "new-and-improved" Ovi store. We haven't seen the new store yet, so of course we haven't seen Sygic yet.

Everyone should just relax. Nokia and Sygic most likely have some kind of agreement (and I would guess Nokia has or will pay Sygic some amount of money to wait until the new store is open to the public) and they simply can't release the app without breaking the agreement.

Some of you act as though you're going to literally die because you don't have turn-by-turn directions. How did you ever get by before GPS?

stantheboss 2010-02-23 22:43

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by nilsbenson (Post 543392)
This was posted waaay back in the beginning of one these threads.

...How did you ever get by before GPS?

It's like when you buy a car and discover that it has no engine inside. Someone than asks you the same stupid question. How did you get by before...on foot like Flintstones??!!

C'mon people, stop this ********, we all paid for it, I bet it's not just me who lunched ovi maps just after unboxing the N900 & said "What on earth is this crap?"

Why would Nokia put a GPS module in a first place, I just don't get it!!!!

nightfire 2010-02-23 23:30

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
If Sygic releases something buggy that has no carry-forward value for the n900, you'll complain about that, too.

It's one way or the other, man. Either they take the time to get it right (including the Ovi app store, apparently) - and have people complaining about it - or they release it before it's ready .... and have people complaining about it.

I want to hand over my hard-earned money for this product as much as you do, but what can possibly be gained with such hyperbole as "no engine inside?"

Besides.. it's more like buying a car and discovering that no one makes aftermarket mags for its bolt pattern. :)

stantheboss 2010-02-24 08:25

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
It's already been polished and it's ready for us to get it. Frankly it was ready at the end of January, those are the words of Sygic people themselves.

And again, it's the Nokia side who holds the magic wand right now, it's up to them when the product sees a day light, that's why people are so pissed, 'cause we know how Nokia share information on further releases.

Dave999 2010-02-24 17:05

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by stantheboss (Post 543880)
It's already been polished and it's ready for us to get it. Frankly it was ready at the end of January, those are the words of Sygic people themselves.

And again, it's the Nokia side who holds the magic wand right now, it's up to them when the product sees a day light, that's why people are so pissed, 'cause we know how Nokia share information on further releases.

So you saying nokia ****a Pucka is sitting on it?:mad::eek:

stantheboss 2010-02-24 18:10

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 544620)
So you saying nokia ****a Pucka is sitting on it?:mad::eek:

Yeah, probably they've signed some kind of agreement and Sygic cannot publish navi anywhere else but at ovi store.

sophocha 2010-02-24 18:30

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I need my navigation software nooooooow!....any navigation will do!...I got lost the other day and it pisses me off that my old 5800 is starting to look better than my N900, especially with the kinetic scrolling firmware and full sygic support

rmarcus 2010-02-24 18:34

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I have to use my wife's awesome n95 to go anywhere I am not familiar with...can you believe it?

:(

Dave999 2010-02-24 18:42

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by rmarcus (Post 544716)
I have to use my wife's awesome n95 to go anywhere I am not familiar with...can you believe it?

:(

yes. I can. u are using nokias high-end product. could we expect it to work? No:mad:

jorjino 2010-02-24 21:14

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
I suppose that there is not only agreement between Nokia and Sygic, but also maybe Sygic GPS sw is based on Qt4.6, which most probably we will get with next firmware update.
So I think that we will see Sygic GPS software very soon.
Regards.

russo_br 2010-02-24 21:17

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorjino (Post 544929)
I suppose that there is not only agreement between Nokia and Sygic, but also maybe Sygic GPS sw is based on Qt4.6, which most probably we will get with next firmware update.
So I think that we will see Sygic GPS software very soon.
Regards.

I've asked the same question if Sygic was based on Qt 4.6 in this same thread, no answer yet... If it is indeed based on Qt 4.6 all the propaganda about the software being ready a long time ago, just waiting for Ovi Store, was just BS.

venusrising 2010-02-24 22:17

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still not available

mtran66 2010-02-24 22:28

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stantheboss (Post 543420)
C'mon people, stop this ********, we all paid for it, I bet it's not just me who lunched ovi maps just after unboxing the N900 & said "What on earth is this crap?"

you're not the only one. I expected to at least have something usable.

I still keep my n95 in my car with garmin xt installed. using google maps and/or ovi maps for any kind of navigation is absolutely terrible while behind the wheel (I pull over for like 5 mins to fight with my phone and data connection).

Dave999 2010-02-24 22:29

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
sygic's software should be included in pr 1.2 after all this waitng. but i don't think nokia share my view on this :)

azz 2010-02-25 02:59

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
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Originally Posted by mtran66 (Post 545051)
you're not the only one. I expected to at least have something usable.

I still keep my n95 in my car with garmin xt installed. using google maps and/or ovi maps for any kind of navigation is absolutely terrible while behind the wheel (I pull over for like 5 mins to fight with my phone and data connection).

same here...I almost threw my n900 out the window on the hiway when trying to navigate...I learned my lesson...I use my n82 whenever I need navigation....still hoping sygic will come out eventually so I can put my n82 to rest after years of abuse....:cool:

stantheboss 2010-02-25 09:01

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorjino (Post 544929)
I suppose that there is not only agreement between Nokia and Sygic, but also maybe Sygic GPS sw is based on Qt4.6, which most probably we will get with next firmware update.
So I think that we will see Sygic GPS software very soon.
Regards.

If it's true, then why would they assure us that the software was ready by the end of 2009. I honestly don't believe in their stupidity not to know that N900 has not been even ready for QT4.6 and by the time they said those words no one ever knew it will be released along with PR1.2...hah?

Hell, I'm so pissed right now & I guess I'm done waiting, if PR1.2 will bring nothing but the bugs freakin' fixes again, I'm gonna sell this brick just for the sake of staying mentally stable:eek:

And yes, I'm fully aware that I won't find a device on the market that has all the pros of N900, but I won't stick to it either when there's still so much to be done...

bockersjv 2010-02-25 09:17

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
I feel your pain Stan :D

I rarely use sat nav but it is precisely for that reason that it is so convenient to have it on my phone. The N900 was proving, at last, to be a device that was to replace my media players. SAT NAV and Garmin cycle mapping computer.

With the media player and sound quality of the N900 suprising me (although the interface could do with a tidy) and eCoach taking on my mapping, it is only the sat nav that is missing.

Hawking atound my N95 and its garmin just for that is just not practical.

This has therefore led to the nightmare scenario of having to wind my window down and ask for directions. As a man that is a very painful exercise :D

I love my N900 but the potential of the device is even more exciting, I just wish I had confidence that its potential will be realised one day.

Dave999 2010-02-26 09:36

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
so ovi store is up and running(with some kind of payment solution), now we only waiting for Qt 4.6 before release?

stantheboss 2010-02-26 09:51

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
My thoughts are that Sygic is not based on QT4.6 unless they have rewritten the whole app which was tested and ready for N900 QT4.5 at the beginning of 2010.

Dave999 2010-02-26 09:52

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stantheboss (Post 547235)
My thoughts are that Sygic is not based on QT4.6 unless they have rewritten the whole app which was tested and ready for N900 QT4.5 at the beginning of 2010.

ok, so we are waiting for nothing. well, that is just great:mad:


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