Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Really? Where did you get this information?

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

No one said flash 10.1 is coming in PR1.2, or to the N900 for that matter

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

He's just messing with you. MeeGo 1.0 will be a very basic platform on which companies will be able to build their proprietary applications, including phone applications. That doesn't mean someone won't make a rudimentary, open source phone application.

It's all a bit complicated. For example, the next version of Maemo, Harmattan, is going to be MeeGo-branded, but won't really have much to do with MeeGo itself. And Nokia is not promising to get Harmattan onto the N900 and probably won't. So be happy with Maemo 5, there will be PR1.3, at least of that we can be certain.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Lets say that with Qt 4.6 we have a possiblity for a first time really to have new OVI maps as Qt 4.6 is compatible with Symbian^4 and Harmattan.

I haven't really heard much about the Flash 10.1 arriving with next update, but N900 uses ARM v7 so maybe we will. I sure wouldn't mind!

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Thanks for the answer/reply @ Laughing man

:)

I mentioned Meego because many news sites/blogs etc had announced it a lil while ago that it was coming to n900 by end of March.
I guess I shouldn't believe everything I read eh?

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Laughing Man please forgive me for simplifing this (and tieing this to the Windows Universe):

Meego 1.0 is to Maemo 5 is like Windows 7 to Windows XP.

The next version of QT for Maemo/Meego is like the next version of .Net for Windows XP/Vista/7.

PR 1.2 is like the next Service Pack (eg. SP2) to Windows.

Hope this explains it better for some.

Disclaimer: The numbers& versions are not important! They are there just to ilustrate the comparison

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

No. You're comparing an open source project to a vendor-supplied distribution. MeeGo 1.0 is not directly comparable, it's a common base enabling vendor-supplied (proprietary) applications using Qt. At this point we're not even sure how much of a UI this thing is going to have on day one. You most likely won't be able to just slap a MeeGo 1.0 image onto your N900 and start making calls, sending text messeges and browsing the web like you can with Maemo 5. If you think this open source project with its first release is going to produce better experience than Maemo 5 then you're fooling yourself.

Edit: If you want a comparison, then something semi-accurate would be Maemo 5 is to Harmattan as Windows 7 is to Windows 8. We've pretty much have some vague idea how Harmattan or W8 might look like, but we're sure as hell thinking they'll both be better than their predecessors.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

My post was only intended as a general: K.I.S.S.

And I think you misunderstood my post.

I compared Meego 1.0 with Maemo 5.
Then I compared XP to Win7.

I did not compare Win to LIn.

Anyways this is getting off-topic.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

I didn't misunderstand your post, your oversimplification in that one particular case was misleading and required some clearing up. I'm not sure where did I imply any comparisons between Windows and Linux in general, that's absolutely not the point.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Same for the UK as well.

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Ah, but was the year mentioned in that date? :p

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

What do you think this is, OpenPandora? :D

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

to fargus:
sorry my 'english', but means you can send text (sms) too landlines?
it must be gsm-phones...? or have you display in home-telephones?
or speek yours telephone sms-text to you?

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

do we have to wait one month more?

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

i hope so. because i'm waiting very exitingly for this one

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Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

First of april lol
great news :P

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

april fools day ? ;)

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

i bet it will never coming out hahaha. April fool!

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Would be the best 1st april fool :P

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

it may be available during ctia and announced then too

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

i read somewhere it is coming on next week or march last week, isthat not true? also that was the recent new update to uk today.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

In the UK we can send and receive texts via landline as long as we have a compatible handset.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

As per my previous post in one of the other speculation threads..

Quote Andre Klapper
"This has been fixed in package
hildon-desktop 1:2.2.132-1+0m5
which is part of the internal build version
10.2010.07-3
(Note: 2009/2010 is the year, and the number after is the week.)"

We have got a week 2 release (3.2010.2-8) in week 7 on Feb 16th. So following that timescale a week 7 release (10.2010.07-3) will be in week 12. Which is week commencing Mar 22nd..

Just my logic but I will stand by it.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

OK, but we already have things from release 10.2010.09-3 marked as available in PR1.2:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8958

How this fits in this timescale? Maybe this confirms that the update will be delivered in April, as some folks speculated already :D.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

i checked some detail on bugzilla:which was posted on "what can we realistically expect" on this link
http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect

this is the content:

Why should I report bugs for Maemo 5, everything is marked as WONTFIX or will be fixed in Harmattan ?
[edit] Is Nokia still working on bugs fixing for Maemo 5 ?

Since its launch date on November 22, 2009, Maemo 5 (official platform and applications) has received 512 patches (as of March 15, 2010)

Upcoming release : PR 1.2

March 15, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 7

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 9

March 8, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 17

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 11

March 1, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 13

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 16

February 22, 2010 - Corresponding, approximately, to Version 10.2010.08-23 (PR 1.2)

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 15

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 15

February 16, 2010

PR 1.1.1 is released to the public.

February 15, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 11

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 30

February 8, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 20

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 28

February 1, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 19

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 22

January 25, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 12

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 33

January 18, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 30

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 48

January 14, 2010

PR 1.1 is released to the public.

January 11, 2010 - Corresponding, approximately, to Version 3.2010.02-8.002 (PR 1.1.1)

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 8

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 11

January 4, 2010

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : 21

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : 13

December 28, 2009 - Corresponding, approximately, to Version 2.2009.51-1 (PR 1.1)


From this details the bulid of PR1.2 will be 10.2010.08-23 (PR 1.2)
so it was started on week 8 not 10.2010.07-3

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

why do we need this update?

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

There are still a few little bugs that need to be patched. Same with every new os. Quite a few of them have been fixed in pr1.2. Also a few nice to haves.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Jake, your English is more than adequate, no issues!

In the UK the exchange translates the text to speech and calls the number. Personally I've not bothered using it other than for novelty though.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Can i ask if there any pause function in video recording? It is verying annoying when you just want to do a continously recording for only moments you want to capture without have to use the PC to join them all up or taking the whole lot of useless thing then use computer to edit it.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

I wish that if this update would really be released, it would be BEFORE 1st of April, unless, we're bound to have some very annoying pranks at April's fools :)

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

You really think the community will go that low? :D

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

first number is the number of the update. last update was 3 so the next one cant be 10.2010 but will be 4.2010........

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

ok, calm down. Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo just called and told me that the update will be released before 1st of April.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

And one month later for the UK models......

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

LOLS i see it coming tomorrow!

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

i think this week! monday or tuesday hopfully! maybe we will get proper nokia maps once QT4.6 is integrated :D the map loader is starting to makes its rounds... and all regions been brought up to 1.1.1 last week, somethings close i can smell it

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

Ahhh you kids and your delusions.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

All I want is press and hold to get the blue symbols. maybe I'll get my wish.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 

since UK firmware now have pr 1.1.1 update maybe prepering every one for the pr 1.2...