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smoku 2010-03-29 21:51
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
'psx4all' indeed isn't an apt-get command.
You need to "apt-get install psx4all". ;)

Secondly. Did your fetch of extras-devel succeeded? If you have low root partition space it usually fails and you do not see any packages from.

nax3000 2010-03-29 21:54
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoku (Post 587356)
'psx4all' indeed isn't an apt-get command.
You need to "apt-get install psx4all". ;)

Secondly. Did your fetch of extras-devel succeeded? If you have low root partition space it usually fails and you do not see any packages from.
Sorry, my bad. It DOES recognize psx4all through apt-get install. I think my app manager is fuscked since apt-get upgrade finds a picodrive update while the app manager doesn't. Maybe I should reset my device or something. Oh well, false alarm ;)
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mthmob 2010-03-29 23:55
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 586979)

1. Any idea what causes the left arrow key to be second start key after remapping. Any chance this will get fixed?
I don't have this problem. How did you map your keys?

I mapped arrow keys to E,C,F,S
And square,triangle,circle and x set to J,K,M,Space.
Start and select to Enter and Right arrow.

Rushmore 2010-03-30 00:55
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoku (Post 587332)
I haven't looked at it yet. It's on my TODO list though.
But I haven't got any problems with Tekken3, so I'm not sure I will be able to reproduce it.



Yes it is. AFAIK psx4iphone uses OpenGL ES backend for GPU and there is a non-functioning stub for glgpu in psx4all sources.

PCSX OpenGL GPU works great with texture aliasing and real alpha blending, so it is perfectly possible to write PSX GPU emulator using hardware acceleration.

It should be even simpler with OpenGL ES 2 of N900 - you may put a lot of effort to shaders code and put even more work directly on hardware.

Care to write this backend?
My programming "skills" were one class each of BASIC, FORTRAN and PASCAL. PASCAL was my best graded class and that is not even a "real" / practical language. Kind of like Klingon ;)

Rushmore 2010-03-30 00:59
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 587473)
I don't have this problem. How did you map your keys?

I mapped arrow keys to E,C,F,S
And square,triangle,circle and x set to J,K,M,Space.
Start and select to Enter and Right arrow.

The very first time I installed and mapped, there was no problem. The issue started when I remapped. Now, if I map the left arrow key, it also acts as a second "start" key. This results in pausing the game when trying to move left. It is like left arrow is both "start" and "left" at the same time. Re-installs did not correct the issue.

When I do not map the left arrow key, this does not happen, but I like the arrow keys for direction (I am simple that way).

lucas777 2010-03-30 02:37
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Did you guys manage to get the latest version running or do we still need to wait for PR 1.2?

lucas777 2010-03-30 02:40
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Also not sure if i posted this but from the games i have got running they dont seem to be the same look as when i first played them on the orginal playstation is the becuase we are not using the full graphics power?

lucas777 2010-03-30 02:46
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Ive just worked out why games crash after the bios, its a region thing, please dont tell me diffrent i have been studying all the roms for the last 24hours NTSC (U) are the ones that work, anything i get with (E) Europe just crashes after the bios, any chance this will be fixed smoku? Im in Australia thats why the roms i have are PAL format, not NTSC

F2thaK 2010-03-30 04:59
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas777 (Post 587583)
Ive just worked out why games crash after the bios, its a region thing, please dont tell me diffrent i have been studying all the roms for the last 24hours NTSC (U) are the ones that work, anything i get with (E) Europe just crashes after the bios, any chance this will be fixed smoku? Im in Australia thats why the roms i have are PAL format, not NTSC
okay im gonna test this.. thanks

scorpio16v 2010-03-30 05:03
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I have a keymapping problem too.

Sometimes, I have the same problem, that an direction key is mapped as menue-back.
Since I`ve deleted the config and set different keys for the volume up/down keys, it works correctly.

But a big mapping problem, I cant solve, is that the action buttons are not on the place, were they shold be. (for example X = O ; O = triangle)
But I can use it in emu and game menues. Ingame, some of the buttons don`t work.
I have a german qwertz hardware keyboard. Setting the region to english qwerty don`t work.
Same problem with messed button mapping with sixaxis controller.

Have you all your mapped keys on the place where they shold be ?

lucas777 2010-03-30 05:04
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Maybe im wrong i tried the wrestling games under U format but they crashed, but Resident Evil NTSC worked, let me know how you all go trying diffrent region games cheers

F2thaK 2010-03-30 05:18
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
actually ive already tried driver, NFS 1 and gran turismo 1
i think at least one was ntsc, but all crash after bios loadscreen..

ive only got tekken 1 to run..


i think maybe the game need to be copied in a certain way......?

mthmob 2010-03-30 08:16
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas777 (Post 587583)
Ive just worked out why games crash after the bios, its a region thing, please dont tell me diffrent i have been studying all the roms for the last 24hours NTSC (U) are the ones that work, anything i get with (E) Europe just crashes after the bios, any chance this will be fixed smoku? Im in Australia thats why the roms i have are PAL format, not NTSC
I'm pretty much only running PAL (eu) roms on psx4all.. and they work just fine, and tested them on both pal and ntsc bios roms.. still work just fine.

F.ex. I'm in the middle of playing FF7 from PAL discs right now :P

6sicSIX 2010-03-30 08:59
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I got gran turismo 1 working, but not playable.. I only really want syphon filter :(

festivalnut 2010-03-30 11:59
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 587768)
I'm pretty much only running PAL (eu) roms on psx4all.. and they work just fine, and tested them on both pal and ntsc bios roms.. still work just fine.

F.ex. I'm in the middle of playing FF7 from PAL discs right now :P
can you please tell me which settings ur using for ff7? i cant get past the first fight without crashing...


i'm using a pal copy,
have .bin or a .iso i made from the .bin if one works better than the other.
find it runs smoothest with bios 7502 and cycle at 4
latest version of psx4all

anything i'm missing?

mthmob 2010-03-30 12:22
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 588092)
can you please tell me which settings ur using for ff7? i cant get past the first fight without crashing...


i'm using a pal copy,
have .bin or a .iso i made from the .bin if one works better than the other.
find it runs smoothest with bios 7502 and cycle at 4
latest version of psx4all

anything i'm missing?
I started playing FF7 when the latest release was 0.3.0-1m4, and i got past the first boss then i believe.

I just play it with cycle multiplier on 10, and used bios's 1001 and 7502.

Rushmore 2010-03-30 12:25
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I do not expect many 3D based games to work very well unless the GPU is used like in the iPhone version. It is impressive how Smoku has gotten the app to work as good as it does without the GPU function. I would not have thought Hot Shots Golf would be almost perfect gameplay without GPU assist, but it plays great :)

What code is involved in getting the GPU to work? Is it a case of activating and linking current function of the app to the 3430, or a rewrite? If a rewrite, we will need to ask some of our Maemo coding elders to get involved.....

lucas777 2010-03-30 12:27
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Thats maybe why Smackdown 1 and 2 dont work they were gpu intensive, wonder if smoku is enabling the gpu any stage at all?

Rushmore 2010-03-30 12:36
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas777 (Post 588140)
Thats maybe why Smackdown 1 and 2 dont work they were gpu intensive, wonder if smoku is enabling the gpu any stage at all?

Most likely, but based on current performance without the GPU, the N900 could become a legend if activated :)

iPhone and HD2 have GPU activated PSX emulators that play 3D games smooth, but most games are mainly eye candy, due to the lack of hardware buttons. The touch controls only work well for simple games.

The N900 would have a huge advantage over those devices.

babysugar 2010-03-30 15:58
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Hello, someone knows how we can change the setting ? I would like to change the keypad..
i'm trying to understand why i can't install the 0.3.4 version, anyone knows ?

Icyseanfitz 2010-03-30 16:10
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
why is no one using the gpu on the n900 is it particularly hard to access?

IINexusII 2010-03-30 16:53
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by babysugar (Post 588436)
Hello, someone knows how we can change the setting ? I would like to change the keypad..
i'm trying to understand why i can't install the 0.3.4 version, anyone knows ?
you will need to wait for the new maemo pr1.2 update since it needs some libraries from there

babysugar 2010-03-30 16:57
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Sure ! Do you know when the update coming ?

IINexusII 2010-03-30 17:14
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
im hearing anytime now it should be released

babysugar 2010-03-30 17:20
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Ok thanks ! Can't wait !! ^^

smoku 2010-03-30 17:40
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
for the impatient:
Code:
dpkg -i --force-depends psx4all_0.3.4_armel.deb

babysugar 2010-03-30 17:51
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
not working..
said "psx4all depends on libhildonmime0" and "not configured yet"
Edit : sorry it worked!
The soft does not work but he installed ^ ^

vintc 2010-03-30 17:59
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Hi..I can't update PSX4All via Xterm and App Manager..missing packages...
Am I alone or anybody else?
EDIT: Maybe.. This is because it's for new firmware?! If yes, I'm calm :rolleyes:

festivalnut 2010-03-30 18:02
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
i dont think its ready yet, tried smoku's code there but it dont do much for me, and since i dont know enough to go messing with it i think i'll be forced to wait!

IINexusII 2010-03-30 19:36
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
need cycle multiplier option on this one, and also how to do full screen?

Andy1210 2010-03-30 22:51
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
yes, we need cycle multiplier option.
Fullscreen depends on 2 not installed library or just compile bug? :)

edit: we have Fullscreen option. We can set it on key settings :) but this menu not working :D

babysugar 2010-03-30 23:02
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Hey !
Somebody knows how can i reinstall the libhildon1 file ? i've remplaced, it was an error..

hectorh82 2010-03-30 23:19
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
all i know is that fps is sooooooooooooo slow its sad.. it works but its do slow for me..

Rushmore 2010-04-01 03:19
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Staying with 3.2 until fullscreen and cycle options, etc return :)

scuddy 2010-04-01 06:16
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by babysugar (Post 588974)
Hey !
Somebody knows how can i reinstall the libhildon1 file ? i've remplaced, it was an error..
I reflashed my phone and have the same error, never had a problem before though, any ideas?

Duff 2010-04-01 09:50
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Sorry for the noobish question but, my PSX4ALL is at version 0.3.1, how do i update it to be 0.3.4? I do have the psx4all_0.3.4_armel.deb file though.. but whenever i try to run the file, it goes "unable to update 'PSX4ALL Maemo Edition'. Some application packages required for the update are missing.

nax3000 2010-04-01 10:38
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff (Post 591088)
Sorry for the noobish question but, my PSX4ALL is at version 0.3.1, how do i update it to be 0.3.4? I do have the psx4all_0.3.4_armel.deb file though.. but whenever i try to run the file, it goes "unable to update 'PSX4ALL Maemo Edition'. Some application packages required for the update are missing.
Oh god people just don't like to read a few pages back do they?
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Rushmore 2010-04-01 12:58
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Based on the status (less options than 3.2 and no fullscreen), why would anyone want to update? Makes more sense IMO to wait for an update with at least the same features of 3.2.

smoku 2010-04-01 13:08
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Would anyone with some graphics skills care to draw a nice banner for PSX4All? To make it look like games-wrapper launched apps.

See DrNokSnes for reference:
http://drnoksnes.garage.maemo.org/n900shot.png

Heman1310 2010-04-01 13:18
Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoku (Post 591321)
Would anyone with some graphics skills care to draw a nice banner for PSX4All? To make it look like games-wrapper launched apps.

See DrNokSnes for reference:
http://drnoksnes.garage.maemo.org/n900shot.png
I'll try to make one. What image file format you want it in?


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