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Rob1n 2010-08-24 20:51
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2disbetter (Post 797162)
unfortunately, I was able to remove and purge the libsdl-ttf2.0-0 but when trying install it again, I got the exact same error as before.

Any ideas?
Exactly the same error? How can it conflict with a file from a package that isn't actually installed?

DreamLand 2010-08-24 21:01
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
All having trouble updating/installing app with error: libsdl-ttf2.0... here is the solution: (This worked perfectly for me!!)
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The problem seems to be caused because apt tries to install both libsdl-ttf2.0-0 and libsdl-ttf2.0.

I resolved this by force removing the installed libsdl-ttf2 version:

Code:

$ dpkg --force-all -r libsdl-ttf2.0-0

Afterward running apt-get install -f resolved the issue and installed both packages without problems
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THANKS TO vStone Solution posted at this link: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59573

quixote 2010-08-25 04:18
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I've had my n900 for about 10 days, and have been using fapman for 7 of them. Great app! So great that I want to make it the default ... but how do you do that?

I see here that you can edit some files linking applications and MIME types. Is that really the only way to do it? And if so, exactly which file to edit? The system file, or the per user file?

Also, what is the exact line(s) to add? What is the mime type for all installable files? (I wouldn't think there is such a thing.) And how would fapman be referred to? fapman.desktop??

There's got to be a better way! :D

slender 2010-08-25 05:45
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
@quixote

Hmm. What do you mean by that you want to do it default app? You want to install nokia ovi store apps and .deb files e.g. here with it by default?

2disbetter 2010-08-25 08:02
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamLand (Post 797230)
All having trouble updating/installing app with error: libsdl-ttf2.0... here is the solution: (This worked perfectly for me!!)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem seems to be caused because apt tries to install both libsdl-ttf2.0-0 and libsdl-ttf2.0.

I resolved this by force removing the installed libsdl-ttf2 version:

Code:

$ dpkg --force-all -r libsdl-ttf2.0-0

Afterward running apt-get install -f resolved the issue and installed both packages without problems
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THANKS TO vStone Solution posted at this link: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59573
The issue was a little more in depth for me. The issue circled around numpty physics being broke in devel.

This thread talks about how to correct the issue numpty build caused.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59841

This should help correct any pygame issues you're having with dependicies.

2d

hqh 2010-08-25 08:04
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by quixote (Post 797503)
So great that I want to make it the default ... but how do you do that?
You can't do that at the moment.
Registering mime types will accomplish nothing because fapman does not know what to do with .install or .deb files.

2disbetter 2010-08-25 08:11
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 797222)
Exactly the same error? How can it conflict with a file from a package that isn't actually installed?
It was returning errors when trying to remove it, that said it couldn't because the package didn't exist. However apt-get -f install kept returning the same errors as above. I've since gotten it worked out.

It was a combination of removing numptyphysics, reinstalling it, adding the terminal changes from my post, and then removing libsmpeg0.

FInally after that everything is running smooth. I hope libsmpeg0 isn't important. Hahaha.

2d

ndi 2010-08-25 09:26
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
It is because Heroes port wants libsdlttf-2.0-0, and I have libsdlttf-2.0, both pointing to the same physical fine, which is in conflict. Apt-get is lost. How the hell did this happpen, shouldn't it check first?

I have like 5 apps depending on libsdlttf-2.0, an uninstall cycle borders the impossible for me.

2disbetter 2010-08-25 09:38
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
hqh, do you think you could implement a way to activate the virtual keyboard when viewing packages. Always wished for this in the built in app manager. Maybe make an extra button down in the button right hand corner?

2d

Ps: Awesome work btw!

hqh 2010-08-25 09:47
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndi (Post 797681)
It is because Heroes port wants libsdlttf-2.0-0, and I have libsdlttf-2.0, both pointing to the same physical fine, which is in conflict. Apt-get is lost. How the hell did this happpen, shouldn't it check first?
It seems the packages are not marked as conflicting. Maybe you should contact the maintainers of those packages.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2disbetter (Post 797690)
hqh, do you think you could implement a way to activate the virtual keyboard when viewing packages. Always wished for this in the built in app manager. Maybe make an extra button down in the button right hand corner?
Isn't it activated when you choose "search" from the app menu and click on the search text box?

2disbetter 2010-08-25 13:03
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 797695)
Isn't it activated when you choose "search" from the app menu and click on the search text box?
Indeed it is. Thanks for opening my eyes to this already availible feature. Once again, GREAT FRIGGIN WORK!

2d

quixote 2010-08-25 13:41
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slender (Post 797538)
@quixote

Hmm. What do you mean by that you want to do it default app? You want to install nokia ovi store apps and .deb files e.g. here with it by default?
I meant that when I get the update alert (the little yellow blinking square), it launches fapman instead of the maemo Application Manager. But I see that hqh answered the question further down. No can do. :(

quixote 2010-08-25 13:45
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 797629)
You can't do that at the moment.
Registering mime types will accomplish nothing because fapman does not know what to do with .install or .deb files.
Oh no! :( I guess I'll just have to learn not to push that silly blinking square yellow update alert and remember to start fapman instead. :p (Any way to turn that alert off? I've looked but haven't found anything.)

slender 2010-08-25 20:25
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by quixote (Post 797915)
Oh no! :( I guess I'll just have to learn not to push that silly blinking square yellow update alert and remember to start fapman instead. :p (Any way to turn that alert off? I've looked but haven't found anything.)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59743

DaSilva 2010-08-28 21:20
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
At the end of an installation process FAM only displays "Installing {LastPackageNameHere}" but it is Catorise which needs to process the new menu entries. Could you display that step please?

And could you create a similar backup & restore feature like HAM has? Just save a list of all installed applications and to restore just do an "apt-get install {all the packages here}".

ndi 2010-08-29 00:08
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Does anyone know what HAM does to refresh icons?

Newly installed apps with apt-get and fapman get blue squares; ones installed by HAM get icons. Also, after installing via fapman, opening and closing HAM rebuilds all icons.

I thought cache refresh was null in 1.2?

Berserk 2010-08-29 00:32
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Bug report :)

Does the confirmation dialog (for (un)install) have the right parent set? Because when that dialog shows up, and I press that top-left icon, the parent window goes into that overview, but the dialog stays in place. When I press somewhere on the dialog, I see the desktop, and when I press that top-left icon again, I only see the window, not the dialog. After clicking the window, the dialog shows again.

Probably hard to understand what I mean, but I think that confirmation dialog has the wrong parent, or no parent at all :)

amit_majumder 2010-08-29 04:50
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I'm not able to find this app in the app manager. I have added the extras-devel repos on my device, but in vain.

Anywhere else i can download this app from..??

lifenexus 2010-08-29 04:56
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndi (Post 801045)
Does anyone know what HAM does to refresh icons?

Newly installed apps with apt-get and fapman get blue squares; ones installed by HAM get icons. Also, after installing via fapman, opening and closing HAM rebuilds all icons.

I thought cache refresh was null in 1.2?
reboot ur phone and the icons will be back. it used to happen to me using HAM before and now with faman but after reboot, the icons appear

attila77 2010-08-29 10:01
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndi (Post 801045)
Does anyone know what HAM does to refresh icons?

Newly installed apps with apt-get and fapman get blue squares; ones installed by HAM get icons. Also, after installing via fapman, opening and closing HAM rebuilds all icons.

I thought cache refresh was null in 1.2?
Apps can (and some do) trigger that via "gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor"...

ndi 2010-08-29 15:26
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I thought updating icon cahe was deprecated in 1.2. The script is empty.

attila77 2010-08-29 19:09
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Whoops, you're right, in that case - no idea :)

zimon 2010-08-30 12:35
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I noticed in the process list, fapm was using apt-get with --allow-unauthenticated option.
Quote:
--allow-unauthenticated
Ignore if packages can't be authenticated and don't prompt about
it. This is useful for tools like pbuilder. Configuration Item:
APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated.
IMO, it should at least warn, or user should be able to set in the options not to install unauthenticated and unverified packages.

How about overall, if (authenticated) packages are installed with fapm, does it check them against repository's signatures, or does it just download them and install them blindly then with dpkg -i ?

hqh 2010-09-02 18:19
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimon (Post 802226)
I noticed in the process list, fapm was using apt-get with --allow-unauthenticated option.

IMO, it should at least warn, or user should be able to set in the options not to install unauthenticated and unverified packages.

How about overall, if (authenticated) packages are installed with fapm, does it check them against repository's signatures, or does it just download them and install them blindly then with dpkg -i ?
All package download and install stuff is handled by apt-get, no extra verifications are done. Adding that option was the easiest way to ensure that the installation goes smoothly most of the time (I remember encountering unauthenticated packages fairly often).

Does HAM warn about unauthenticated packages (besides giving the generic warning for every single package you're about to install)?

murali1965 2010-09-02 18:31
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Bug report.
Last two days Iam not able to update/in(un)stall or any other works with fapman.
how to clear this one.
following bugreort.
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Hit http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Packages
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Fetched 1962kB in 54s (35.9kB/s)
W: Failed to fetch http://deb.opera.com/maemo/dists/fre...el/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
--- 2010-09-02 09:13:18 ---
/usr/bin/apt-get -q update -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=""
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2 Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free Translation-en_GB
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/non-free Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle Release.gpg
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Translation-en_GB
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2 Release.gpg
Ign http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Translation-en_GB
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2 Release
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle Release
Get:1 http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2 Release [118B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Packages
Get:2 http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages [118B]
gzip: invalid magic
Err http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages
Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
Hit http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Packages
Fetched 236B in 55s (4B/s)
W: Failed to fetch http://deb.opera.com/maemo/dists/fre...el/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
--- 2010-09-02 09:14:54 ---
/usr/bin/apt-get -q update -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/opt/fapman-cache/sources.list -o Dir::State::lists=/opt/fapman-cache/lists -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=""
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2 Release.gpg
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free Translation-en_GB
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/non-free Translation-en_GB
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle Release.gpg
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Translation-en_GB
Get:1 http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2 Release.gpg [118B]
Get:2 http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Translation-en_GB [118B]
gzip: invalid magic
Ign http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2/non-free Translation-en_GB
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release.gpg
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Translation-en_GB
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Ign https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages/DiffIndex
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2 Release
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle Release
Get:3 http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2 Release [118B]
Ign http://deb.opera.com fremantle-1.2 Release
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.2/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://My-maemo.com fremantle/user Packages/DiffIndex

hqh 2010-09-03 08:22
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by murali1965 (Post 805508)
Bug report.
Last two days Iam not able to update/in(un)stall or any other works with fapman.
how to clear this one.
following bugreort.
Looks more like a problem with the opera repository (which I cannot reproduce). Are your settings correct? Does the same repository work with HAM?

murali1965 2010-09-03 19:07
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 805987)
Looks more like a problem with the opera repository (which I cannot reproduce). Are your settings correct? Does the same repository work with HAM?
Yes. the same setting and repository working with HAM.
:mad:

murali1965 2010-09-03 19:53
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hqh (Post 805987)
Looks more like a problem with the opera repository (which I cannot reproduce). Are your settings correct? Does the same repository work with HAM?
Now working perfectly,after delete Ign My-maemo and opera repository.

Thanks for your advice.
:D

ddwalker 2010-09-03 22:09
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Does anyone know how to disable the original application manager so that it won't automatically search for updates? Every time I connect to the network through wifi, it starts to search for updates, which slows down the phone. I want to use the FAM only.
Thanks.

dsawhney 2010-09-03 22:49
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddwalker (Post 806676)
Does anyone know how to disable the original application manager so that it won't automatically search for updates? Every time I connect to the network through wifi, it starts to search for updates, which slows down the phone. I want to use the FAM only.
Thanks.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Customizing_Ma..._Updates_Check

ddwalker 2010-09-03 23:24
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsawhney (Post 806698)
cool, thanks.

fpp 2010-09-04 14:41
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
This doesn't actually disable anything... just makes it annoying less often :-)

DaSilva 2010-09-12 09:10
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Is it possible to add (free) OVI applications to the installable list with http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...932#post813932 ?

hqh 2010-09-13 09:49
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 813937)
Is it possible to add (free) OVI applications to the installable list with http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...932#post813932 ?
No.
Code:
[1|root@Nokia-N900|~]apt-get install offscr-electric-beams
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree     
Reading state information... Done
E: Handler silently failed

slender 2010-09-14 07:20
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
feature request
-check if connection is up (only before doing any online activity o no checking in remove applications)
--if not give user warning and start connecting/popup connections window

-in main window show pie chart/numbers about free space in /opt

GaRy delaMEr 2010-09-14 08:33
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Hi all,

i've a request too: a button in remove applications to force reinstall and a checkbox to purge and remove.

Thx

zerocool2k 2010-09-19 15:35
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
There's a bug in how FAM handles repositories I think. Here are the 2 threads:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62181

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=62521

Would appreciate if someone can look into this. TIA.

ndi 2010-09-19 18:00
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
I have a small one as well. When a filter is active (type in the install list) and blacklisting an app, it doesn't go away immediately. One needs to re-filter. Not a huge issue, but it would help, especially for search and destroy missions.

Also, where is the blacklist file so I can back it up? Had to reflash and it's a mess again.

louispires 2010-09-19 18:30
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fpp (Post 807163)
This doesn't actually disable anything... just makes it annoying less often :-)
Well if you set it to the longest time/largest value(2 147 483 647)
then it will wait 1 491 308 days in between automatic updates OR 4 085 years.:D

I don't think it will ever update in this case! lol
I am not sure if it resets this time after every restart or exactly how it works.
But mine has never updated itself once since i changed the value..

slender 2010-09-19 19:38
Re: [Announce] Faster Application Manager (Maemo5)
 
Nahhh..I will report some "bugs" here even-thought garage probably is correct place.

- Window title has normally little blue arrow after text if itīs click-able. e.g look phone application or contacts application. Only main window in fapman has blue arrow.

- If i set category to "all marked packages" in application install screen the category stays selected when going back to main screen and selecting remove applications or upgrade applications. IMO it should be reverted to all installed applications.


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