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Yes , Hi is right :(

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Uhh, my bad...
I reverted the installation procedure to the old one for version 0.15.1 which I just uploaded to extras-devel.
The "Clock & Alarms" entry is indeed a must-have.

Unfortunately, this means for some (those with some custom modifications to "/etc/hildon-desktop/status-menu.plugins") again that Advanced Clock Plugin won't work.
But for the big majority this restores the previous functionality.

Apparently, these are the trade-offs one has to accept. :rolleyes:
At least until there is a better solution which applies to all of us.

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Wonko: Which issue do you mean? The clock applet button disappearing from the menu? No, this update hasn't fixed it. (To be clear, this is the stock button that's in the hildon status menu. That clock applet. The normal advanced clock plugin in the status area still works.) I know I can replace the .desktop files, I can figure that out. Am i really the only one for whom that applet vanished?NVM, I started typing this like 45 minutes before posting, and had massive distractions in between, so in the meantime people had time to answer.

To be clear this is what I meant:
Attachment 17407
Note the absence of the normal button that you can click to get to the Clock menu. Like I said, I can easily switch the .desktop files around, I'm just wondering if this has happened to anyone else. Also, I'm on the Community SSU by the way. (Clock works just fine though.)

Now, I may have a basic patch for you, to make it possible for a clock style to specify that it is to be redrawn every second even when only minutes are shown (necessary for mine, because I have all the cpu/mem/internet-traffic bars updating every second, but I'm sure other people might come up with clock styles like mine..).

I changed line 165 in /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/advanced-clock-plugin.py from:
to:
And added this under line 37 of /opt/maemo/usr/lib/advanced-clock-plugin/clock.py (moving everything down by one obviously):
Victory. From here all you need to do is add self.force_redraw = 1 in the init area of your clock style, to make it redraw every second. Not extensively tested, but works with all thenormal styles I tried it with (I haven't messed with klingon fonts or the picture-using ones).

- Edit -

You can ignore the first part, I see the issue has been identified already.

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Also wait what?

My status-menu.plugins file was rather heavily modified, and I've never had issues with Advanced Clock Plugin in the entire time I've had it (since you first released it). Did other people with custom .plugins files get messed up before? I don't remember this happening, but even if it did, first-hand evidence of me never having problems says the problem isn't custom status-menu.plugins files themselves, but something specific.

That said, while you're at this way of replacing that .desktop file with this one, can't the future of Advanced Clock Plugin also involve replacing Clocks and Alarms (or whatever) with a better more versatile version? (That's what I thought you were doing at first.)

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Are you doing this before the image pattern has been created? Could you post the code you had for that?

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For some reason after this update my decimal clocks etc now no longer work/show. Binary still shows up but everything else ... nada, regardless of the settings.

Advice?

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I think you should be able to combine using the fill option, the font changing, and the font resizing, to get exactly the equivalent of the default clock. Or something very very close.

- Edit -

Now that you're shipping images in with the clock styles, perhaps we can make even more optification? I mean, the images don't need to be in rootfs, right?

BTW: Since I let the latest update to it's thing, Wonko, I see that it fixed the Clock and Alarms status menu button with the new update. So just some verification for you, it should properly revert back for them.

Now that I've figured out how to do this keep-updating-clock thing, I'm probably within a day or two of spare fiddling time to releasing the clock style I've been working on for like two months now. It's a bit abysmal how long it's taken, but hey, I went from someone with no coding ability to someone who can actually sorta-kinda do basic Python stuff.

And all thanks to you, Wonko, for liking my original 'make your status menu binary clock have the option to show normal numbers too'.

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hmmm. made some test images for a flipclock, worsk fine, but the seconds digits are not cycling, they're just static. anyone have advice??

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I'll add an according modification.
Though, I'd prefer to use a boolean variable, so you would use "self.force_redraw = True".
I think for the time being, it should be ok if this is not set via the settings ui but is set only by clock styles needing a refresh every second.

Good to know.
Thanks for the info.

Actually, it is optified.
"/usr/lib/advanced-clock-plugin" is a symlink pointing to some place in /opt.

Well, as it didn't work out the way I wanted I discarded the code.
I could add it again and add an option to the settings UI for it.
By the way, what do you mean with "creating the image pattern"?
The code for playing the animation is in "/usr/lib/advanced-clock-plugin/pixbufanimationplayer.py"

As usual, run (as root):
to see what's going on.

Edit:
Well, I am currently not planning to do this.
I am already very short of time and this project would really blow my schedule.
Having said that, my schedule is already tight enough. ;)

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Yes, I agree, it doesn't need to be a settings thing - not the way I ended up implementing it (if enough clock styles arise that have this optionally, it could be useful in settings, but until there's heavy demand/need for it, it's fine being manually set in code by the clock style).

And I also agree with you on the True/False thing. I just screwed it up as a boolean initially when I figured out how to do it. (I used "true" instead of "True", which caused errors, and I wanted to make sure it worked at all, so I didn't fiddle too much with figuring out the right way of doing it. The post you just made cleared that up though.)

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Alright, just uploaded version 0.15.2 to extras-devel which adds the self.force_redraw option.

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i dont know if other member have my problem on their n900 but after i have upgrade this plugin from 0.14.7 to 0.15.2 my clock (on the status bar is missing)...
the clock is there on my status bar but when i click the clock i cannot enter the clock menu (add alarm/delete alarm)....
i have try removing (purge) advanced clock plugin but after restart my n900 still i lost my clock menu on the status bar...
reinstall the plugins again yet still my clock menu is missing...
any idea why????

have a look here....

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@Wonko: Much appreciated that you included it. (I must admit I'm proud of myself, even if it was something you could've done yourself, and even though it was rather simple in retrospect. It was still some of the most advanced python-ing I've done - because so far all my other python is within the confines of the clock style - which means I don't have to spend too much time understand how all the higher-level stuff works. This was across multiple .py files, which was new to me.)

pusak gaok:
Either your /etc/hildon-desktop/status-menu.plugins file got messed up, or /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/clock-plugin.desktop file got named wrong. (This is linked to the different ways in which Adv. Clock installs itself.)

To better diagnose your problem, paste the outputs of:
...and:
Then we can go from there.

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What are you using for the images? Perhaps take a look at my flip-clock set and see what the differences are: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=356

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So cool, and nice work with the Nixie number images!

I turned yours green to match my screen better; here they are if anyone else wants them:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7a95z0
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fwbrue

Pusak:

How did you change the color of the icon indicated below?

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Shouldn't the redraw take place in /usr/lib/advanced-clock-plugin/gtkpixbuftextwriter.py, right before the self.drawable.draw_pixbuf() lines? The other file is referencing a parent class, so it wouldn't be able to draw to the context directly.

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@Mentalist Treaceur : done...i just figure it out why the clock & alarms didnt show on my status bar....yes it some how got renamed from
clock-plugin.desktop to clock-plugin.desktop.distribut....
i just have to rename it back to clock-plugin.desktop....
thank you for your help....

@rotoflex : which colour do you mean,is it the clock widgets that i use???

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Happy to help.

He means the button in the top left - the one that you click on to open up the application launching menu. (The one with the six small squares.)

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I installed your last release and I observe status-menu.plugins file. I attached to you the original and the file after installation of advanced clock plugin. As you can see your installation delete some parts of my file:

[profilesx-sp-plugin.desktop]
X-Desktop-File=/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/profilesx-sp-plugin.desktop
X-Status-Area-Position=18
X-Status-Menu-Position=20

[wifi-switcher.desktop]
X-Desktop-File=/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/wifi-switcher.desktop
X-Status-Area-Position=18
X-Status-Menu-Position=21

[simple-brightness-applet.desktop]
X-Desktop-File=/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/simple-brightness-applet.desktop
X-Status-Area-Position=18
X-Status-Menu-Position=22

[quick-launch-sb.desktop]
X-Desktop-File=/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/quick-launch-sb.desktop
X-Status-Area-Position=18
X-Status-Menu-Position=23

could you solve this?

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I had a new small problem. As you can see in my screenshot after the restart the alarm's icon is very very near to the clock, I have to disable the alarm and reset the alarm to see it not so near...
have you any idea?

I attacched two image, near and not near

Re: [Announce] Advanced Clock Plugin
 

Hi, sorry my reply is so late - yesterday when I first saw this, I was first busy and then sleepy, and today I was sleepy from the lack of sleep from yesterday. That said, I slept for like 2 hours earlier today, and I'm back to general awakeness.

I looked at your attached files, and looked at my own, and I think I see what went wrong. Have you, by any chance, installed any other programs that have modified those files? Anything that would install Status Menu applets? Note that the following entry exists already in the original file, in the same spot at which your new file got cut off at (lines 93-98 in both files):

I think I figured out the problem - the uninstall script and postinstall scripts assume that the Advanced Clock Plugin's entry in that file is the last entry. So it simply cuts everything at that point. When you update, as I understand it, apt-get/dpkg uninstall the current version, and install the new one. Even if this isn't what's done at the package level entirely, it seems to be what is getting done for the above file - this means the uninstall script is run on the existing status-menu.plugins file, where it finds the location of advanced-clock-plugin.desktop, deletes everything from that point. Then the new version being installed/updated re-adds the entry normally - but has no way of knowing there was previous stuff beforehand.

There really needs to be a more standardized way of writing to the status-menu.plugins file.

Wonko, here's my suggestion: Use whatever method you use to seek out the respective lines of code - delete them, but ONLY them - I'm sure there must be some way to delete just from-current-line-to-five-lines-down? Then you can just delete however many lines were initially added. As a safety feature, DO make it actually FIND the right string in the status-menu.plugins file, instead of simply, say, remembering that it was on lines x - y. That way, if people manually modify that file, it's less likely to get further messed up. Yes it might make the uninstall script slightly slower (maybe not noticeably so, or maybe I'm wrong and it'll be the same speed, IDK), but that's easier than people having chunks of Status-Menu plugin configuration deleted. ALSO, to be clear, you don't HAVE to specify entries for some of these things. Meaning, your current Advanced Clock doesn't have a button in the status menu. So you don't have to specify a status menu position - just the special status area clock position. (i.e. Unless you intend on eventually adding a button, this doesn't have to be added: "X-Status-Menu-Position=22")

Actually, things like Flashlight Applet and cpumem applet don't even ADD themselves to the status-menu.plugins file. It's not even necessary normally - IT IS necessary in the case of what you're doing though, because you have to override the stock clock applet (but for the button, if you're okay with it being auto-positioned in alphabetical order with the other 'unassigned' buttons, under all the assigned ones, you still won't need the X-Status-Menu-Position=22 line).

Wouldn't it be relatively easy to clone the Clock and Alarms status menu button? You don't have to replace the entire thing like I suggested earlier, you can just make your clone button display the same info (Day/Night clock icon, which is the only slightly annoying one to clone, because of the custom icons people bring in sometimes, "Clock and Alarms" in primary text, and the date in secondary smaller text), which launches the default clock program, just like the Clock and Alarms status applet does? This lets you go back to the 'safer' install method you tried out, with only marginal extra button coding, and avoids the need of coding your own complete replacement - but makes that an option for when there's either time, or someone like me gets off their *** and figures out how to do it.

If not that option though, we return to the former - just having the uninstall/update script seek for a unique part of the string, like the first two lines:

[advanced-clock-plugin.desktop]
X-Desktop-File=/usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu/advanced-clock-plugin.desktop

...and then delete those +however-many-other-lines-were-added-by-the-installed-version, instead of everything afterward, would prevent a lot more errors. the only other errors would be if people manually edit that particular part of the file and just add extra lines, or delete one - which, well, you shouldn't do unless you're willing to figure out what went wrong at least partially on your own. Either way, that's a corner case, while having other programs get installed that include extra entries after yours isn't really.

On the other hand, iscio, I think all of your applets should still be showing up correctly, right? I don't think any of that stuff replaces another applet. The only thing you might notice is their position might be different, because they'd get auto-sorted.

Re: [Announce] Advanced Clock Plugin
 

ok thank you very much for this complete answer.
I confirm that I manually add these stings
because I'd like to change the original position of app in status-menu button. Now I rewrite these string and everything is ok. I did a copy for further update of advanced clock plugin :-) but I prefer you solve this problem :-)

thank you again Mentalist Traceur

(have you an idea also for my last post?)

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Ah, yes, if you're changing app positions, that can be an issue. As a way to future-proof it, you can manually add those entries above the Advanced-Clock-Plugin entry. It doesn't fix the problem per se, but should prevent you from getting affected by it.

And no, sorry, I don't know what the solution to your other problem would be. I haven't had the chance to look into it (fiddling with my own clock style primarily, as of late), nor do I have any experience with this using-pictures-to-display-numbers approach, as I never wanted to use it and haven't even integrated it into my clock-style yet.

Re: [Announce] Advanced Clock Plugin
 

yes I add my strings above the Advanced-Clock-Plugin entry. But after an update I lost these strings. Now I have a backup, but I hope in a solution by the autor.
thank you

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Hmmm... Interesting. That means, I THINK, that it's not even searching for the relevant string, but just reverting to an earlier state of status menu, or going by line numbers - "I added the entry at line x, so delete everything starting from line x".

Wonko, I'll do my best to find the time to look at the install-related stuff over the next week or so, and see if I can submit a patch to you to fix this, assuming you don't get around to it yourself, and no one else more competent does it.

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Well, the prerm script was supposed to do exactly that.
Apparently, the sed one-liner was not working as it should.
This issue should be fixed in 0.15.3 which I just uploaded to extras-devel.

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I would just like to say " Thanks for all your hard work " This is a wonderful plugin. IMO this is a must have on the N900!

This is what I have done with it...http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...ClockIcons.png

Thanks again..

Kind regards Qosmio

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is this clock the same of previos flipclock or is different?

wonko have you any idea for my question about alarm icon? thank you..I'll test your new release

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forgive me if this has been discussed, but have been searching for about an hour now with no luck.

I have just uninstalled the plugin and the stock clock is gone. Can anyone tell me how I go about reinstalling the default clock?

Thanks in advance

[edit] never mind - figured it out.

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hey will you share your alarm icon?

thx

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my alarm is here...but I hope someone could solve my problem

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Dude, your theme looks nice! You should mod your QBWidgets as well ;)
And about you problem:
Well, i have a similar problem my alarm icon is to far away from the clock.
(at least 5mm)
seems like the distance is some how related to the font and image your using.
correct me if I'm wrong...

Anyhow, I didn't find a fix, yet...

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i resize the the icon and its perfect for me
http://i.imgur.com/4ZZNz.png

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ok, test my icons after restart of the phone and tell us if it is everything corrected.
thanks

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i rebooted many times (coz of bluemaemo mouse movement) it stays there i cant even reproduce how you guys can make the icon near the numbers.

i tried your original icon but its larger so i resized it and thats what you guys are seeing on the pic.

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could you give me your size?

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ok 21x21, now I'll test this size...
and the size of flipclock? I use 110% with the file of qwertyberty

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one issue I have with this app:

there is no plain digital clock like the stock one.

I know if you want it, you can uninstall, but what if you want to swap between at your leisure? not possible, not easily anyway.

just a suggestion :D

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Yes there is. The basic digital one. Just set it to hide seconds, and change the font and font size until it looks like whatever your original clock looked like. The text spacing or size might be MINUTELY off when you're done, but it should be very close.