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demludi 2012-04-06 11:39
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
I just donate money whitout thinking :) Muahaaaa

sorin88 2012-04-06 12:36
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Tgalal started developing this (on his free time mind you ! ) somewhere around the end of february. i myself can't wait for this to be done, but i also realise it takes time. So pls, stop posting stupid replys that are in no way helpful to this thread, and just be patient.

youmeego 2012-04-06 13:26
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
how much donation has the Tgalal received from us? can the amount be revealed?

Etchelon 2012-04-06 13:57
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Guys if you're trying to piss tgalal off and force him to quit the development of this app, you're almost there I believe.

weechia 2012-04-06 14:10
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
hey man, tgalal do this for free, and don't force him so much~

Tetlee 2012-04-06 23:53
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etchelon (Post 1188841)
Guys if you're trying to piss tgalal off and force him to quit the development of this app, you're almost there I believe.
I'm sure tgalal is clued up enough to expect a ton of impatient rants over the inevitable quiet spells during this development. None of that will matter once its out there for N900/N9 users to download and everyone is singing his praises.

Keep up the good work!

lazyfai 2012-04-08 15:34
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
I think posting the source code on some public space like github first and let more people joining the development is better than releasing a source only after "finished".

Nosph3ratu 2012-04-08 20:40
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
I really did not want to litter this development thread with a non development post but this ridiculous amount impatience among the members here is really annoying.

Its his code, his dedication and time put into the project. Whatever he chooses to do with it is up to him. If it wasn't for him there wouldn't be this glimmer of hope we have atm. Just let him be. There's also these pointless sly "encouragement" posts that ask for an eta/update. Its sickening honestly.

This thread was initially created to discuss the development as the old thread became littered with pointless posts and its happening again here... sometimes I just don't understand people. I almost hope he stops development just to spite those impatient people even though I need the app.

I will not post in this thread again unless I have something to assist with his development.

hobarrera 2012-04-08 22:39
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyfai (Post 1189751)
I think posting the source code on some public space like github first and let more people joining the development is better than releasing a source only after "finished".
That is the idea of the open source development model. And since there are people willing to contribute, I think it's a great idea. Not only can is speed up development, it can help kill bugs earlier in the development cycle, and posibly result in better code quality.

don_falcone 2012-04-08 22:45
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Why don't you (two) guys do it with the source of your own project(s) first, instead of always thinking suggesting things helps?

hobarrera 2012-04-08 22:58
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1189867)
Why don't you (two) guys do it with the source of your own project(s) first, instead of always thinking suggesting things helps?
So we can have two competing proyects aiming at the same thing, instead of joining our efforts for that?

Weirdfisher 2012-04-09 01:33
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosph3ratu (Post 1189842)
I really did not want to litter this development thread with a non development post but this ridiculous amount impatience among the members here is really annoying.

Its his code, his dedication and time put into the project. Whatever he chooses to do with it is up to him. If it wasn't for him there wouldn't be this glimmer of hope we have atm. Just let him be. There's also these pointless sly "encouragement" posts that ask for an eta/update. Its sickening honestly.

This thread was initially created to discuss the development as the old thread became littered with pointless posts and its happening again here... sometimes I just don't understand people. I almost hope he stops development just to spite those impatient people even though I need the app.

I will not post in this thread again unless I have something to assist with his development.
you cant prevent these ppl
everytime there must someone being impatient
especially this app is very demanding
also some of them might donate money and they would like to know about the progress. For these ppl, i think they are reasonable to ask so. At least they have contributed to the project

biatch0 2012-04-09 08:11
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
1) Donations are given without return consideration. Nobody should expect anything in return for a donation. If tgalal so chooses to provide an update as to what's going on with the project, good, otherwise, don't go about with the idea that updates are expected.

2) Putting source on github (or similar) - for a project that is obviously as popular as this, I'd think this would at best improve development times by a hair... and cause other problems. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that has an N9 and has opened the command prompt before will assume that they have the knowhow to compile/install the source; and when the vast majority fail, this thread will then be populated by that vast majority expecting support/a .deb file for each nightly release/etc.

IMHO, the project is best left as is. The project is tgalal's, the updates should come on his terms, and assuming he does need/want help with the code, he can easily ask for it.

Sniper_swe 2012-04-09 09:59
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
ffs this is a dev thread so leave it alone. If I were admin for this forum I would take away your permission to even visit this thread!

don_falcone 2012-04-09 12:29
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1189965)
1) Donations are given without return consideration. Nobody should expect anything in return for a donation. If tgalal so chooses to provide an update as to what's going on with the project, good, otherwise, don't go about with the idea that updates are expected.

2) Putting source on github (or similar) - for a project that is obviously as popular as this, I'd think this would at best improve development times by a hair... and cause other problems. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that has an N9 and has opened the command prompt before will assume that they have the knowhow to compile/install the source; and when the vast majority fail, this thread will then be populated by that vast majority expecting support/a .deb file for each nightly release/etc.

IMHO, the project is best left as is. The project is tgalal's, the updates should come on his terms, and assuming he does need/want help with the code, he can easily ask for it.
This, exactly. Thanks for concatenating my thoughts :D

rimarsa 2012-04-09 15:47
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
What about the rights of watsapp?
You have permission from whatsapp to make the app for
the Nokia N9 i think.

lazyfai 2012-04-10 01:28
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
This is a development thread anyway... :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1189965)
2) Putting source on github (or similar) - for a project that is obviously as popular as this, I'd think this would at best improve development times by a hair... and cause other problems. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that has an N9 and has opened the command prompt before will assume that they have the knowhow to compile/install the source; and when the vast majority fail, this thread will then be populated by that vast majority expecting support/a .deb file for each nightly release/etc.

Luizhi 2012-04-11 05:38
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
this is a total fiasco .. everyone says that patience but Tgalal plane and not a sample advance, who is developing it, "according to" just wants money u.u

Morpog 2012-04-11 13:33
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
There is a new version for S40 out (Version 2.3.18).

http://ul.to/x0ehv35m

johnsnipe 2012-04-11 21:49
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
i know this is a free time project.. but the progress is slow.. i think tgalal need to release a first version of this project (to calm down the people and show them that isn't an hoax..) just with the most basic features i think the most important is:
* create your whatsapp account (throught account manager) like fb or msn account
*conversation 1 on 1
*plugin or app running in background
*edit your status online/offline

the others features( like groups or share images, etc) can be done later in a next version, and with this people will donate more money :) (because like me if i don't see anything i will don't donate), just my point of view, any way keep the good work

ravent-n900 2012-04-11 21:59
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luizhi (Post 1190626)
this is a total fiasco .. everyone says that patience but Tgalal plane and not a sample advance, who is developing it, "according to" just wants money u.u
writing program from scratch not an easy job

if we want something perfect we must be more patience

Luizhi 2012-04-12 03:11
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1190743)
There is a new version for S40 out (Version 2.3.18).

http://ul.to/x0ehv35m
and this has to do?

hobarrera 2012-04-12 03:21
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ravent-n900 (Post 1190950)
writing program from scratch not an easy job

if we want something perfect we must be more patience
It took me a week to create a really really really crappy and somewhat buggy foursquare app, in Qt (which I had never used) for maemo (OS for which I had never developed).

Sure, it takes months to polish, but I'm still wondering why there's not even a pre-alpha dev-release yet.

Creamy Goodness 2012-04-12 03:35
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hobarrera (Post 1190999)
It took me a week to create a really really really crappy and somewhat buggy foursquare app, in Qt (which I had never used) for maemo (OS for which I had never developed).

Sure, it takes months to polish, but I'm still wondering why there's not even a pre-alpha dev-release yet.
I wouldn't release it until it perfectly emulates the protocol otherwise they might block it. You guys crying for him to release it probably don't want that to happen so I would be careful what you wish for...
Also, quit demanding updates. It's not the tgalal's full-time job to work on this, you're lucky if he has a few hours a week to do this. You want him to come here every day and say "sorry, I didn't have time to work on this"? Maybe you should try asking if you can do his laundry or make him dinner so he has more time. lol.

youmeego 2012-04-12 04:09
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
i hope what we all are waiting for is not a scam!

it is time to show us some video preview!

Luizhi 2012-04-12 05:49
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
turned out to be a fraud because no longer appears for here .. or publish anything.

ADRENALINE 2012-04-12 06:06
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
the best thing that can be done is for that guy to stop working on this and give you winy girls something real to wine about...
:cool:

Morpog 2012-04-12 09:13
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luizhi (Post 1190997)
and this has to do?
AFAIR they used the S40 JAVA Whatsapp to reverse engineer it.

youmeego 2012-04-12 09:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
we need some new developers for N9 whatsmee?

SamGan 2012-04-12 09:43
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ravent-n900 (Post 1190950)
writing program from scratch not an easy job

if we want something perfect we must be more patience
Who's asking for first release to be prefect? An alpha version will be very welcome.

SamGan 2012-04-12 09:54
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADRENALINE (Post 1191042)
the best thing that can be done is for that guy to stop working on this and give you winy girls something real to wine about...
:cool:
In think it may be best instead of giving people false hopes. Given that this has been under development for more than a month it is not unreasonable to ask for some progress status. Yet the arrogance of some of the members here as if it is a crime just to ask how's the project going. How much time does it take for Tgalal to post a few sentences on his progress? In this case no news is not good news. How do we know Tgalal has not dropped the project? We know that Tgalal is working on his own time but he has accepted donations and created great expectations so he has a responsibility to keep us informed.

ADRENALINE 2012-04-12 10:26
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1191119)
In think it may be best instead of giving people false hopes. Given that this has been under development for more than a month it is not unreasonable to ask for some progress status. Yet the arrogance of some of the members here as if it is a crime just to ask how's the project going. How much time does it take for Tgalal to post a few sentences on his progress? In this case no news is not good news. How do we know Tgalal has not dropped the project? We know that Tgalal is working on his own time but he has accepted donations and created great expectations so he has a responsibility to keep us informed.
Guy Tgalal has no responcibility at all towards us so we have any rights at all to keep on pushing this more talking here will do us no good we have to be patient and wait for the good news to pop up...
also we have not to forget that this is a development thread lets keep it like this...

patlak 2012-04-12 10:32
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
This thread is full of hate. Both parties are wrong. Tgalal shouldn't release an unfinished product, however, he could at least show a short 5 second video proving it's still in development, a teaser.

don_falcone 2012-04-12 11:49
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
...i would even donate 10 EUR for his word to stop development now, if he hasn't already stopped it.

(As a bonus to stop usage of proprietary stuff.)

But especially just to piss off all the little whiny girls in their pink skirts, that think they are entitled to a a usable product, a leaked build, or just some words. Get a life, stop checking this thread each day, if there are news you surely will hear about. Bollocks.

patlak 2012-04-12 13:01
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
@don_falcone

It's hard to find non-whiners in today's age of social networking. Whatsapp is like the ultimate desire right now for Maemo, obviously. People just can't get some fresh air and meet in person, at a park, cafe, etc. You need to whine with them :P

siegfreid 2012-04-12 13:33
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
i have already paid just 5 € but when its ready i promiss that i pay 20€

reinob 2012-04-12 14:04
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
Hmm.. will Whatsapp include a Flash 10 plugin? :)

chasetheangel 2012-04-12 14:11
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
I'm really really really enjoying this WhiningsApp development thread :D:p

ibrakalifa 2012-04-12 14:30
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
are ur n9 totally useless without wazzap? LoL

quipper8 2012-04-12 14:36
Re: [WIP] Porting Whatsapp to Meego/Maemo (N9, N900)
 
I hope tgalal finishes it and it works perfect and he just posts videos of him using it everyday in this thread and never releases it, lol.

For all of you whiny babies, why not just go to ODesk, Elance, Vworker, Freelancer.com or Guru and get someone to make this app for you...then maybe you will see the actual timelines and translations into hard money work that this undertaking is. Here's a hint, it is far beyond what you are expecting, namely 1 month of time and a few paltry paypal donations less than $10.

here is a good example:

https://www.elance.com/j/sonork-chat...-app/28709382/

Proposals:Avg $3,157 | High $4,384 | Low $1,800


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