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guilledoc 2012-07-10 20:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
after some minutes of working great the microb crashed and then didnt work reboot the phone and I went into a reboot loop tried to recover with backup menu but dont no why all went wrong and I had to reflash thanks anyway for your work but I will wait until this is more stable

Joseph9560 2012-07-10 20:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Just a quick note, to disable no-lifeguard-reset, the correct command is:
Code:

flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode --clear-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset
and not
Code:

flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode -clear-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset

don_falcone 2012-07-10 20:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
'flasher-3.5 --disable-rd-mode' is enough.

freemangordon 2012-07-10 20:36

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1235558)
after some minutes of working great the microb crashed and then didnt work reboot the phone and I went into a reboot loop tried to recover with backup menu but dont no why all went wrong and I had to reflash thanks anyway for your work but I will wait until this is more stable

Did you copy the library?

ed_boner 2012-07-10 20:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
ti where do we copy it???

hxka 2012-07-10 20:58

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ed_boner (Post 1235592)
ti where do we copy it???

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=324

guilledoc 2012-07-10 21:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1235574)
Did you copy the library?

Nope
obviously is my fault thats why I will wait untill is more stable or forgot the nerves every time I have to flash ;)
Thanks and I'll be checking this thread every time

Raimu 2012-07-10 22:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1235526)
Seems to work :) Makes me wonder if it compromises some sort of security measurement...
What was it set in default fremantle?

TLS is Transport Layer Security, a follow-up security layer protocol to SSL. The quick fix won't compromise anything, it just tells websites to connect via perfectly safe SSL3 protocol instead of TLS 1.0!

I guess this means something in the TLS implementation of the browser is now temporarily broken by the changes.

Estel 2012-07-11 01:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
While it's true for now, TLS is considered much more safe (and bug free) than SSL - just almost not widespread at all.

It isn't big concern for now - from list of popular sites, only google seem to support TLS currently - nevertheless, determining and eliminating source of TLS problems is quite important thing for future?

Just shot without aiming - libcurl package?

/Estel

harry_e20000 2012-07-11 04:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
just to point out....after the update and ugrade...and a reboot...microb works fine without crashing...I dont know if it's just me but it seems faster and every site still opens without any error...sites like google.ru that someone complained about....good work freemangordon

freemangordon 2012-07-11 08:55

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_e20000 (Post 1235788)
just to point out....after the update and ugrade...and a reboot...microb works fine without crashing...I dont know if it's just me but it seems faster and every site still opens without any error...sites like google.ru that someone complained about....good work freemangordon

Well, if you can open https://www.google.com without modifying the value for tls in about:config, then you most probably are still running the non-thumb version of microb ;)

freemangordon 2012-07-11 09:14

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1235064)
No way I'm gonna check arbitrary random branch to find out why you refuse to answer my questions/comments about generic general way to handle source in linux.
I really think you need to check powerpc, itanium, amr4, younameit branch
If your "ported upstream patches" are built in a way they would break ARM build, you evidently messed it up to implement them
AFAIK upstream/main is meant to compile on all platforms, with all valid options - at very least there _never_ can be a patch upstream that when "backported" to our local branch would make that branch fail to compile for ARM. Either it been broken before and we better fix it for all upstream stuff, or your backport is flawed.
/j

While I know you love to argue just for the sake of arguing, I will miss the party this time. You are involved enough in CSSU stuff (one way or another) to know that thumb-testing branch of source code on gitorious was created exactly for the purpose of having the source code that MIGHT not be compatibe with Maemo5 default compiler. Keeping backward compatibility to Maemo5 SDK (as distributed by Nokia) has never been a goal of that branch.

And in addition - will you point to at least one example of me not trying to keep backward compatibility, as much as humanly possible, no matter which project. Once you've questioned my expertise and experience and I am ok with that, it is your right, but throwing some random toughts on the principles of Linux development in general, while refusing to make yourself aware of the facts smells to me like trolling.

harry_e20000 2012-07-11 09:37

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1235876)
Well, if you can open https://www.google.com without modifying the value for tls in about:config, then you most probably are still running the non-thumb version of microb ;)

hmmm...thats serious...even after a successful installation of libnspr4 libnss3 libnss3-certs microb-engine microb-engine-common I am still not...?hw do I know which version of microb I am using...?

michaaa62 2012-07-11 10:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_e20000 (Post 1235895)
hmmm...thats serious...even after a successful installation of libnspr4 libnss3 libnss3-certs microb-engine microb-engine-common I am still not...?hw do I know which version of microb I am using...?

Code:

apt-cache policy microb-engine

[DarkGUNMAN] 2012-07-11 10:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
1 Attachment(s)
MicroB update appears to have worked fine, although the install of libgcc_s.so.1 found no version of it already installed.
Full busybox output is attached.

joerg_rw 2012-07-11 12:55

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1235885)
[...]thumb-testing branch of source code on gitorious was created exactly for the purpose of having the source code that MIGHT not be compatibe with Maemo5 default compiler. Keeping backward compatibility to Maemo5 SDK (as distributed by Nokia) has never been a goal of that branch. [...]

Sorry I forgot you also need a fixed compiler version. Point taken. never mind.
:-)
/j

harry_e20000 2012-07-11 19:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1235908)
Code:

apt-cache policy microb-engine

thanks man...dis is d output of d command...
/home/user # apt-cache policy microb-engine
microb-engine:
Installed: 20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5-thumb0
Candidate: 20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5-thumb0
Version table:
*** 20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5-thumb0 0
500 http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
20100401-1.9.2-5.2+0m5 0
500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages

n900_ 2012-07-13 15:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I have n900 after full reflash with latest cssu thumb and microb update.
Microb sometimes reboots n900. Is it only my n900 problem or not ?

EDIT: I reflashed n900 once again. First install all apps, then install cssu thumb and it's working stable and fast.

mr_pingu 2012-07-13 15:53

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n900_ (Post 1237051)
I have n900 after full reflash with latest cssu thumb and microb update.
Microb sometimes reboots n900. Is it only my n900 problem or not ?

MicroB crashed on me once, in ~ 1 week of normal usage. Can't say it was website or thumb related. Never rebooted/ activated the watchdogs in my N900 though.

Joseph9560 2012-07-14 14:42

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
small bug:
-open microb (the bookmark page)
-make sure there are enough bookmark that you need to scroll to see all bookmarks
-try to scroll to the bottom end of the bookmark
-once it reaches to the bottom, it scrolls back to top without reason.

i don't think it was the case with original microb nor this happens with other's n900.

thanks.

nman 2012-07-14 14:56

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 1237447)
small bug:
-open microb (the bookmark page)
-make sure there are enough bookmark that you need to scroll to see all bookmarks
-try to scroll to the bottom end of the bookmark
-once it reaches to the bottom, it scrolls back to top without reason.

i don't think it was the case with original microb nor this happens with other's n900.

thanks.

I've had this happen randomly for a long time, long before Thumb.

michaaa62 2012-07-14 16:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 1237447)
small bug:
-open microb (the bookmark page)
-make sure there are enough bookmark that you need to scroll to see all bookmarks
-try to scroll to the bottom end of the bookmark
-once it reaches to the bottom, it scrolls back to top without reason.

i don't think it was the case with original microb nor this happens with other's n900.

thanks.

I am having just twenty bookmarks, but do not have this behavior for microb's bookmarks here!

praveenchand 2012-07-14 18:44

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
i did apt-upgrade now, and I am constantly getting rebooted as soon as it gets to the desktop. any way to correct it without reflash?

n900_ 2012-07-14 20:40

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Turn n900 to rd mode with no-lifeguard-reset flags.(by flasher)
Copy libgcc from http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=324 and turn off rd mode.

praveenchand 2012-07-14 21:02

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
thanks, just let me know how to turn n900 to rd mode with no-lifeguard-reset flags, i could find it by searching, but since you are online it will be fast if you could guide me.

//edit: i found your previous post explaining that, thanks :)

praveenchand 2012-07-14 21:18

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
one ore question,since long time i have not reflash my device, how to get into rd mode, press "u" or "U" (caps button + u)?

don_falcone 2012-07-14 21:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Dear 'praveenchand', there's a Wiki here on maemo.org. Please use the ready-to-use information put there aeons ago by helpful people. thank you.

praveenchand 2012-07-14 21:27

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1237552)
Dear 'praveenchand', there's a Wiki here on maemo.org. Please use the ready-to-use information put there aeons ago by helpful people. thank you.

i found wiki :)

HELLASISGREECE 2012-07-14 23:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
guys, please tell me couple of examples on how the microb got better!

i am asking because i don not want to give myself the placebo pill : D

*after a spin* edit: sites load faster. difference can be experienced especially in more "heavy" sites.

uses less ram too (?)

hxka 2012-07-15 22:05

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1235484)
Well, after quick googling, here is the workaround:

goto about:config and set security.enable_tls to false

This didn't help me at all, I'm just getting another error: http://i.imgur.com/XL0tt.png
UPD: the information above is wrong, seems like only Google Maps is not working (nice reason to switch to OSM, he-he).

ayos! 2012-07-16 04:22

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 1237447)
small bug:
-open microb (the bookmark page)
-make sure there are enough bookmark that you need to scroll to see all bookmarks
-try to scroll to the bottom end of the bookmark
-once it reaches to the bottom, it scrolls back to top without reason.

i don't think it was the case with original microb nor this happens with other's n900.

thanks.

not cssu thumb bug, just "end task" and it'll be back to normal, i can tell because i don't have thumb installed...yet

bsdmaniak 2012-07-16 19:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
How i can remove thumb depot ?

hxka 2012-07-16 19:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
My English sucks.^U What do you meant by “depot”?

bsdmaniak 2012-07-16 19:36

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
repo sorry. I'm trying to uninstall CSSU-thumb. I removed CSSU-thumb repo. How i can remove thumb packages ?

freemangordon 2012-07-16 19:37

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bsdmaniak (Post 1238411)
repo sorry. I'm trying to uninstall CSSU-thumb. I removed CSSU-thumb repo. How i can remove thumb packages ?

By using apt-get.

Why you want to do that?

bsdmaniak 2012-07-16 19:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
I'm trying to reinstall CSSU because CSSU-thumb is unstable with my phone.

freemangordon 2012-07-16 20:07

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bsdmaniak (Post 1238417)
I'm trying to reinstall CSSU because CSSU-thumb is unstable with my phone.

And what exactly is unstable? Come on man, give some useful information, after all that is why this thread exists.

bsdmaniak 2012-07-16 20:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
My phone freeze randomly. I havn't finished installing the CSSU-thumb because I had a dependency issue. Some packages was installed but not all.

michaaa62 2012-07-16 20:24

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
Try
Code:

sudo gainroot
dpkg --configure -a
apt-get update
apt-get install -f
apt-get upgrade

Please post the error messages you are getting here.

bsdmaniak 2012-07-16 20:56

Re: [ANNOUNCE] CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900
 
My phone freeze before the end of apt-get update.


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