Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

We don't use the same sharing UI stuff AFAIR. That one should probably be moved to nemomobile-graveyard. I'm not intimately familiar with the details, I'll try remember to ask someone to pop in here tomorrow with pointers to which code would be useful.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Messaging in SF goes through Telepathy.

Re: Please upgrade web browsers and text editors to "PC level"
 

While I won't comment on features that may or may not be present now or in the future, the presentation from the video is not a feature. The application there is a testing ground/demonstration tool of sorts, the "components gallery", and the font sizings there were just for demonstration purposes to get a feel for what different text sizes feel like.

any chance to get half-open, based on crippled XMPP stuff into the messaging app?
like a native messaging system working also as Whatsapp-client?

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Similar disclaimers as usual about not commenting on possible or actual features, I will say this: our integration of anything which isn't an open service/open standards/is a brand is going to require communication, agreements and contracts with the people behind it. So using WhatsApp as an example, it wouldn't *just* be based about the technical possibilities as to whether or not we could include such a thing, even assuming we can polish the experience to a world class standard. They would also need to be OK with us doing that, on whatever terms they dictated.

That having been said: I don't think anyone would stop you from messing with something like this yourself. Quite the opposite.

Re: Please upgrade web browsers and text editors to "PC level"
 

... and if I am correct App developers should prefer to only use the predefined sizes in the Theme component

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Maybe not really software related, but I do hope the Jolla phone will be more friendly to power from backup batteries, car chargers or solar powered chargers. I bought wonderful solar chargers from waka-waka.com. My N9 and N900 refuse to take more than a small drip, while a Samsung phone or a Garmin GPS charge normally. I even shorted one of my cables, and it didn't help. Dear people from Jolla, I will buy your phone anyway. But I do hope it will accept a solar charger!

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Here are the apps that I was not able to find on the master list on page 1 (or maybe I'm not searching the right text), and they definitely should be on the list. I hope to see them on Jolla someday :-).

• video editor (should be as easy to use as iPhone's built-in video editor)
• ebook reader with support for epub, Kindle (azw, kf8), lit, and mobi
• comics reader with support for all the popular formats (cbr, cbz, cb7, cbt, cba)
• WordNet dictionary
• AED (Advanced English Dictionary), or something as polished as this Windows Phone app
• CamScanner, Genius Scan, or something similar to take photos of documents, automatically color/contrast correct and align them, noise reduce, and convert them into PDFs
• planetarium app similar to Google Sky Map
• famous quotes/quotations app
• IMDb client
• Wikipedia client
• Kayak client
• Wego client
• SkyDrive client
• Google+ client
• Google Hangouts client
• LinkedIn client
• Gmail client
• Yahoo! Mail client
• Tincore game keys mapper
• Amazon store app
• Craigslist app
• Groupon app
• clipboard manager app like Clipper+ or Android
• bubble level app
• SPL meter to accurately measure decibels
• find-my-phone app using GPS with ability to remotely lock/wipe phone
• 360 degree panoramic capture app similar to Photosynth

I apologize if any of these apps have already been mentioned deeper into this thread but did not make it onto the master list.

Cheers,
Tom

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AFAIK there iust not even an open API by Google for this :(

Soo my guess is if u use that you have to use the android Apps.. (if google allows that)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Some good ones in your list above, but a lot of those are such that no "app" is really required, IMHO as they are really just broser frontends to a web service...?

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Yes, you are right. However, with the exception of Wikipedia, which has an excellent mobile site, all the other "clients" offer a superior experience to using the mobile version of the site. For example, try using mobile Gmail for awhile and compare it to Android's native Gmail app -- no comparison. Same applies to Kayak, Wego, Amazon, etc.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

It's bizarre/infuriating but it's often tragically true... >.>

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Not mobile site... web service. Those are different things.
*email is hybrid, at least if speaking from IMAP
**MeeGo example would be services that use ShareAPI (Dropbox to get content up there) vs service integrations that need a client base (FilesPlus for managing Dropbox files)

Depending on how various companies have made their APIs, its quite possible for any mobile OS to not need a client at all, but to just utilize that API to create the controls and the access to the content that's needed.

IMO, a platform built in the last 3yrs should do that. Relying on clients is a crutch mobile has picked up from PCs, its not exactly the right way forward - at least not for those platforms/ecosystems that espouse openness.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I would love to see if the chikka messaging app could be integrated into the messaging app.

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Hi mate,

will go through these and update my list (character limit pending!) today.
As detailed, I would consider many of these to be requests that could be handled through API inclusion within existing core Os application functionality, and based on this, a number of your suggestions might be better off sitting in the "functionality" thread elsewhere.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Update from Ruediger Gad via Twitter:

MeePasswords and Q To-do looking good on SailfishOS:

MeePasswords

Q To-Do

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Would the same solution apply to the steam chat plugin created for Pidgin? and usable by telepathy

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

A good oscilloscope, multimeter, signal generator touch based front-end!..., may be port, which is already there in the DSO Nano project!
Scrolling and zooming the waveforms by touch would be cool!

It would be wonderful to have an oscilloscope & its probe hidden behind the other half! :)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

The answer I got:

"for implementing a share plugin and a service specific UI, good starting point would be: https://github.com/nemomobile/transfer-engine/blob/master/doc/src/index.qdoc"

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I finally started messing with the Sailfish SDK yesterday. MusiKloud is almost complete (haven't looked into event-feed integration etc). Screenshots are available at http://marxoft.co.uk/musikloud/sailfish/. I'll be starting on cuteTube tomorrow. :)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Nice

Please dont forget nice features that N9 first had like playing video when searching for another and resizing video when playing.
I really liked those.

Then off topic
Cutetube in N9 is bit buggy (Network error). Havent you fixed it or is Nokia store is really this slow?

PS. I use CuteTube everyday. :D

Edit: Also you and other developers should post more often what you are working on.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

No problem with the resizing request, but playing the video in the background affects performance too much. In any case, I'll need to wait until I can get the device before I can see what video performance is like.

Update has been awaiting QA approval since Monday 21st. I think the Nokia Store QA team now consists of one guy in a broom cupboard. By the end of the year, there will be 'in-app' updates. Also, the N9 version will be in OpenRepos. No more waiting for Nokia Store QA. :)

Thanks. :D

Well, I only started the Sailfish stuff on Friday. :p I don't like to post until I have something concrete. At least then I can be sure it won't turn out to be vapourware.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Now on N9 I use KMplayer to listen and search same time.

You could make option "Open videoplayer in new window" and have button in player that brings CuteTube on top and vice versa.

My head is full of ideas. :D

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Sportstracker (Dev contacted)

Any update on the response?

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If it wasn't true it'd be hilarious... >.>

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A Dropbox file manager integration is a must. Or, if we end up having just the usual kind of client with its separate file viewer, there needs to be a widget or sth. for one-touch-sync, *including upload*.
IMO anything that claims to be a cloud service but lacks fast and easy, in-app upload functionality is a fraud.

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A decent ftp client!

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Exactly.
*All* mobile sites are total crap compared to either their desktop counterparts or relative apps, or both.
If you want to use all the functionality that the desktop site offers, it's safe to say you needn't look for that on the mobile site.
In terms of usability, most of them aren't even touch-optimized, i.e. you always get tiny little text links that require zooming in to hit them.
In short, lack of a mobile app means using that site/service on yr phone will suck balls.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

And LibreOffice. Make Jolla a productivity device.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

what are the easy debian vs wayland prospects?

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Nobody is looking currently on xwayland in Sailfish, but in theory you can run xserver inside wayland compositor. But I would never recommend using easy debian on Sailfish device as you just don't get the user experience with X11 apps. But feel free to experiment with XWayland http://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html

And as in developer mode your system doesm't have any restrictions like N9 aegis, there really is no point for chrooted environments.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

There is a point :) The aim is to provide desktop apps without porting loads of libs. You don't get the ux, but you get the funcionality. Well, porting all the kdelibs might be a pita ;) [or will they be already in-repo?]

/edit: and what about libgtk2 + wayland or libgtk3 + wayland for apps on sailfish?

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

No, you dont want desktop apps to a Phone. Thats what your laptop is for.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

What's the difference if I run, let's take, metaflac or vorbiscomment, on desktop Linux or mobile Linux? Just some of the GUI apps would be unusable without a stylus/magnifying glass

Btw. what about built-in magnifying glass like in iOS? (3 fingers to magnify)

/edit: or let's assume I have a track in h2o drum synthetizer. If I want to play it, I just install the desktop app and don't cry that I don't have an app. of course mobile app > desktop app on phone

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

it would make more sense to hope for a editable version of calligra.

i understand they have cleaned up libreoffice a lot, but i think it will forever remain a complicated beast unsuitable for mobile interfaces if only because of the number of things it is trying to do.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

I think GTK3 should be good to go as it should have mainline Wayland support. I would say some mucking with GTK3 packages from Fedora/OpenSuse in Mer OBS should do the job.

GTK2 is more complicated as it does not support Wayland, so XWayland will be needed first for it to work. Hacking it work directly with Wayland might not be an option, as at least GDK is directly using & exposing (I've actually used some of that in modRana :D) a lot of X stuff.

Still, GTK is IMHO not that suitable for mobile GUI development. Sure, it is possible, but it is quite a masochistic exercise, provided there are better suited alternatives available, such as Qt.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Well, using gtk is a real pita. But the aim is to achieve compat with gtk2/libhildon1 apps. ;)

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

That is a good point - there are still GTK/Hildon applications, such as OSM2GO - without any real alternatives.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

Or Tuner, which is an unique app! It's why I was playing around with libhildon1 on Harmattan - to get this app running :)

/edit: and it's much easier to "hildonize" gtk interface of an already-gtk app that to rewrite it in Qt.

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 

vaguely recall seeing calligra in nemo github, can't recall what flavour (i.e. read only or editable)