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Miharin 2014-12-22 00:33
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Well I updated on Friday and I've had constant crashing all the time. Just now it rebooted while browsing the web and went into a reboot/crash-loop and rebooted at least 4 times before I thought it was stable. Then it rebooted again. I have paper with the battery...

I'm out of ideas.

droll 2014-12-22 01:47
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
same here. I get the "rebooted while browsing the web" issue once in a while (rare but it happens). I don't have the paper insert to hold the battery down. however, I notice that when this kind of reboot happens, the phone will misbehave once it is up and running again (reboots quite frequently). the only way to cure this is to remove the battery, count to 10 :) then reinsert and boot up the phone again.

Dave999 2014-12-22 04:30
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
did you have these reboot loops before U10? I will go totally bananas if that happen to me. maybe you have installed some sttange software? tried to restore os?

no update yet. just tried. jolla, wake up its monday!

TemeV 2014-12-22 07:07
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
So far there is no info for the rebooting problem being anything else but a HW issue, so it's strange if updating software affects it. Cleaning battery contacts and adding paper are the cure.

andreas1 2014-12-22 07:09
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TemeV (Post 1453342)
So far there is no info for the rebooting problem being anything else but a HW issue, so it's strange if updating software affects it. Cleaning battery contacts and adding paper are the cure.
True. Or jolla customer care. :p

Dave999 2014-12-22 07:34
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
ok. then I am one of the lucky sailers. I have 0 reboots.. lets hope that continues after U10.

send in the device to jolla care.

no update available just checked. Jolla slakers...hit release button asap!

juiceme 2014-12-22 08:53
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Oho, I am already on Vaarainjärvi since last week and just a minute ago got an update notification for it. I guess that'll be the fix for alphanumerics in the lock code...?

Dave999 2014-12-22 09:02
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453354)
Oho, I am already on Vaarainjärvi since last week and just a minute ago got an update notification for it. I guess that'll be the fix for alphanumerics in the lock code...?
WTF :D

atleast its good news. someone finally got in to office.

juiceme 2014-12-22 09:10
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Updated my device, now I am on newest Vaarainjärvi release (1.1.1.27)

Just to be sure did the update on console;

[root@Jolla nemo]#
[root@Jolla nemo]# ssu re 1.1.1.27
Changing release from 1.1.1.26 to 1.1.1.27
Your device is now in release mode!
[root@Jolla nemo]#
[root@Jolla nemo]#
[root@Jolla nemo]# zypper ref
[root@Jolla nemo]# zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
jolla-settings-system sailfish-version

2 packages to upgrade.
Overall download size: 117.6 KiB. After the operation, additional 294.0 B will be used.

From Vertu with Love 2014-12-22 09:27
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Still no update, but if others are getting it now, I'll hold out hope that it'll reach me soon.

Dave999 2014-12-22 10:04
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
ladies and gents. we have an update of 263,2 mb. can we trust it...
with or without alpanumeric?


Thank you jolla!

coderus 2014-12-22 10:07
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
don't trust it. To update your device properly you need to do factory reset and install 2GB of updates, not just 200MB.

Dave999 2014-12-22 10:11
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1453369)
don't trust it. To update your device properly you need to do factory reset and install 2GB of updates, not just 200MB.
what? why... :D

do I have to send it jolla care before as well..?

juiceme 2014-12-22 10:19
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453370)
what? why... :D
That ~260MB applies if you are on Uitukka release.
If you are on earlier releases, yes, then the update is ~2GB

Dave999 2014-12-22 10:25
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453373)
That ~260MB applies if you are on Uitukka release.
If you are on earlier releases, yes, then the update is ~2GB
Im not sure where I am. I excpect jolka to handle thst for its customers.

Im on taklhampi...1.0.8.21

juiceme 2014-12-22 10:32
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453377)
Im not sure where I am. I excpect jolka to handle thst for its customers.

Im on taklhampi...1.0.8.21
Okay, in that case you do have a problem. The update sure is going to be pretty large...

How I'd go at it, (but of course anyone is free to do whatever they please)
  • I'd first balance my btrfs and make sure there's really lots of free space available
  • Then I'd switch to 1.1.1.27 on console, and update with zypper;
    "ssu re 1.1.1.27; ssu ur; zypper ref; zypper up"
  • If "zypper up" still says something like ~260MB of updates, then I'd contact Jolla Care, and not start update.

Dave999 2014-12-22 10:38
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453380)
Okay, in that case you do have a problem. The update sure is going to be pretty large...

How I'd go at it, (but of course anyone is free to do whatever they please)
  • I'd first balance my btrfs and make sure there's really lots of free space available
  • Then I'd switch to 1.1.1.27 on console, and update with zypper;
    "ssu re 1.1.1.27; ssu ur; zypper ref; zypper up"
  • If "zypper up" still says something like ~260MB of updates, then I'd contact Jolla Care, and not start update.
HaHa...seriously. this is how jolla planning to handle all users that didnt get the update before on hold last Friday ?

Thx anyway. my jolla is totally unused for long 2 GB of space is no issue since it unused.

any word from jolla how to proceed?

From Vertu with Love 2014-12-22 10:49
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Hey Dave, just updated fine. No issues for me with the new, slimline update.

EDIT: Wow! How smooth is this browser now?

coderus 2014-12-22 10:56
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
@juiceme no please dont do it this way!
Use version --dup instead of zypper commands!

From Vertu with Love 2014-12-22 11:05
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453384)
thx. I will update later tonight so I will follow this thread and see if some issues appears or if its all good.

did you come from 1.0.8.21 as well?

HoHoHo...MErry C to all.
Yep, wasn't a 'First One' or in the early access preview.

magullo 2014-12-22 11:12
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by From Vertu with Love (Post 1453382)
Hey Dave, just updated fine. No issues for me with the new, slimline update.

EDIT: Wow! How smooth is this browser now?
Just updated, came from 1.0.8, didn't do anything except verify I had 2GB free (which I had). No problem, updated and everything runs smooth and fast, beautiful and simplyfied UI.
I'm in love.

coderus 2014-12-22 11:32
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
try
Code:
devel-su -p
dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.jolla.jollastore /StoreClient com.jolla.jollastore.checkForUpgrade "boolean:true" "boolean:true"

From Vertu with Love 2014-12-22 11:34
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1453394)
Thx...maybe full speed ahead is the right approach :D
If the update does break your phone, it'd be on them anyway. But the fact that a couple of us now have done it without any issue makes me think that won't be an issue.

Dave999 2014-12-22 11:50
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
so if it was an issue jolla should inform us about it. they say rollout to all users so it must be greenlight. wonder if removal of the alphanumeric removed 1,5 GB of update :D

magullo 2014-12-22 12:10
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Just to point out, I don't know how much data I downloaded, but I did on a 3G network, and I took 5/10 minutes to complete the whole upgrade, so I do not think it was 2GB.

juiceme 2014-12-22 12:11
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1453385)
@juiceme no please dont do it this way!
Use version --dup instead of zypper commands!
Hmm well that works too except it gets the control away from you, starts update right away.
What's the difference compared to doing it with ssu&zypper?

Dave999 2014-12-22 12:13
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by magullo (Post 1453416)
Just to point out, I don't know how much data I downloaded, but I did on a 3G network, and I took 5/10 minutes to complete the whole upgrade, so I do not think it was 2GB.
It was 263,2 MB :D

nodevel 2014-12-22 12:18
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453380)
[*]Then I'd switch to 1.1.1.27 on console, and update with zypper;
"ssu re 1.1.1.27; ssu ur; zypper ref; zypper up"[/list]

Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453418)
Hmm well that works too except it gets the control away from you, starts update right away.
IMHO if anything, you should not use
Code:
zypper up
, but
Code:
zypper dup
.

From the man page of zypper:
Quote:
update, up .......................... Update installed packages with newer versions.
dist-upgrade, dup ............... Perform a distribution upgrade.

coderus 2014-12-22 12:29
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
@nodevel zypper dup is even worst than zypper up for release updates :D
@juiceme because version using ssu to manage and install packages from repositories.

pichlo 2014-12-22 12:32
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1453357)
Updated my device, now I am on newest Vaarainjärvi release (1.1.1.27)
Eh? I have been on 1.1.1.27 since Friday. I thought 1.1.1.27 was a temporary fix to 1.1.1.26, just to remove the alpha-whatnot and that today was the day for a proper fix with a new version number. Did I get it wrong again?

catbus 2014-12-22 12:34
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Here too is Tahkalampi 1.0.8.21 and update to Vaarainjärvi 1.1.1.27 sizeof 263,2 Mt ???

Is it dangerous to update?

Well, Vaarainjärvi = Lake of Dangers (not really but can also translate like that...)

coderus 2014-12-22 12:34
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Patch: Alphanumeric devicelock, in case you missed :)

nodevel 2014-12-22 12:39
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1453426)
@nodevel zypper dup is even worst than zypper up for release updates :D

I disagree. After having experience with OpenSUSE and Nemo, I must say that zypper dup handles system updates (and their dependency hells) much better than zypper up, which is better suited for regular updates. No wonder it is recommended by both OpenSUSE and Nemo Mobile.

I agree that version --dup (by the way, it is dup for a reason) should be used, but zypper dup saved me from having to restore my Jolla during the last two system updates, when updating through GUI failed and neither version --dup nor ssu worked.

Dave999 2014-12-22 13:20
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1453428)
Here too is Tahkalampi 1.0.8.21 and update to Vaarainjärvi 1.1.1.27 sizeof 263,2 Mt ???

Is it dangerous to update?

Well, Vaarainjärvi = Lake of Dangers (not really but can also translate like that...)
seems to be different answers depending on who you asking . maybe ask att together jolla. ;)

Im planning do go for the 263 mb tonight since it comes from jolla and no disclaimer was announced.

foufoutos 2014-12-22 13:25
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
200mb update from 1.0.8 update or not? tell us plz

From Vertu with Love 2014-12-22 13:39
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Everyone who has updated has been fine. Stop worrying! Typing from my Jolla on 1.10, updated from 1.08 (took about 10 minutes) this morning. Small update. Everything works, no random crashes / restarts.

Watchmaker 2014-12-22 13:48
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
I did it too, and from the time it took to download (I didn't pay attention to the dimension) I think it was a small update for me too. All went fine. My system version is correct in the system info. All the new small changes in the UI are there. Everything looks fine, but I had to manually update the Maps app from the store to get the new map layer features.

benny1967 2014-12-22 13:50
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Watchmaker (Post 1453443)
... but I had to manually update the Maps app from the store to get the new map layer features.
Was the same when I upgraded to U9 (Uitukka) a while ago. Maps weren't updated automatically then, the new version wasn't even shown in the store and I needed to update it from the command line.

foufoutos 2014-12-22 14:10
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps646567a9.jpg
i make the update. no essensial app from jolla store and the swipe . stack as half. i cant patch maze so i have a broken update?

foufoutos 2014-12-22 14:36
Re: SailfishOS Update10 discussions
 
and i have this answer from together ''you have the correct one. ypu need 2gb of free space for the jolla to extract and proces the update''

i think factory reset is the answer


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