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Schturman 2015-06-26 17:59

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Bug or normal behavior ?
When I forwarding message for example to 2-3 people, app creates broadcast list with this peoples. Message delivered to all this contact, but it not showing this message in the private chats with this contacts.
Sometimes when this persons answers me after some time, I don't understand for what this answer because can't see my message before.

HtheB 2015-06-26 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schturman (Post 1474926)
Bug or normal behavior ?
When I forwarding message for example to 2-3 people, app creates broadcast list with this peoples. Message delivered to all this contact, but it not showing this message in the private chats with this contacts.
Sometimes when this persons answers me after some time, I don't understand for what this answer because can't see my message before.

Normal behavior, this is also like this in the official client. (It's to prevent getting banned)

Schturman 2015-06-26 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1474932)
Normal behavior, this is also like this in the official client.

Not agree... in off client when you send message to a few people via broadcast, after this if you will open private chats with this people one by one, you will see your message...
But if you say it's to prevent getting banned, I get it..

uggeli 2015-06-26 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1474887)
I only have my JOLLA...

Just install K-9 Mail from F-Droid or some other android app store and setup your email account there. Android version of WhatsApp will recognize this and you are able to send e-mail with automated attachments with this method (used myself with similar situation with mitakuuluu2). Hopefully this helps you.

peter-berlin 2015-06-27 12:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uggeli (Post 1474937)
Just install K-9 Mail from F-Droid or some other android app store and setup your email account there. Android version of WhatsApp will recognize this and you are able to send e-mail with automated attachments with this method (used myself with similar situation with mitakuuluu2). Hopefully this helps you.

Thanks a lot for the great tip with the k-9. I got a mail from whatsapp with (un)usefull tips and I answered that this tips won't solve the problem. After that I received no answer...

Can anyone tell me, if there is an answer of WhatsApp for the new activation and how long it takes?

explit 2015-06-27 15:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1474887)
I only have my JOLLA...

I'm also in Berlin, Peter. I can help you with your Whatsapp problem...

HtheB 2015-06-27 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1474975)
Thanks a lot for the great tip with the k-9. I got a mail from whatsapp with (un)usefull tips and I answered that this tips won't solve the problem. After that I received no answer...

Can anyone tell me, if there is an answer of WhatsApp for the new activation and how long it takes?

The mail that you get is just some confirmation. You need to wait for a reply now... usually takes like 4-5 days :(

Saurus 2015-06-27 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1474975)
Thanks a lot for the great tip with the k-9. I got a mail from whatsapp with (un)usefull tips and I answered that this tips won't solve the problem. After that I received no answer...

Can anyone tell me, if there is an answer of WhatsApp for the new activation and how long it takes?

Ehm... Did you write your phone number in that mail? I think it doesn't need anything else... So, just wait few days

malerocks 2015-06-29 04:21

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Hi Cepi,

In the other app that you have released (filecase) it is possible to directly save files downloaded from the cloud drives to the phones SD card. Can you implement something similar in whatsapp i.e. all media received gets saved to SD card if present?

PatsJolla 2015-07-01 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1474869)
In my case it is impossible to send a message from whatsapp appliction. I got the message: "it seems that you have no email client on this device"

You need to use an android mail client. Since the app looks only for an android mail account.
I used K9 mail to contact Whatsapp when I was banned. make sure to always start the request from the whatsapp client so they can see you are really using the official client.

Edit

You need to stay persistent (hartnäckig) go on writing them through the client till they answer you. I wrote an TLC thread about how to get unblocked. You can use the same approach to get your problem fixed, maybe.
here is the link:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...d-in-whatsapp/

Kake41 2015-07-01 12:05

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Got banned just a few minutes ago.

late88 2015-07-01 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475367)
Got banned just a few minutes ago.

Is that with the latest version 0.1-9? I somehow was convinced that it is nearly impossible to detect this client as unofficial. Did you do anything special that you got caught?

deiv 2015-07-01 14:37

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I was convinced too!
Cepi could you explain me how whatsapp finds, and then ban, those who use unofficial applications?
How whatsup, and/or the other applications, prevents to being found?
Thank you very much!

carmenluci 2015-07-01 14:42

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I have an issue with 'Contacts': I can't see all my Whatsapp contacts, it's missed some of them. Anybody has this issue?

Kake41 2015-07-01 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by late88 (Post 1475380)
Is that with the latest version 0.1-9? I somehow was convinced that it is nearly impossible to detect this client as unofficial. Did you do anything special that you got caught?

I was chatting with my friend when suddenly Whatsup lost connection and tried to reconncect back but failed every time. Then I uninstalled Whatsup and installed Android Whatsapp. I got the notification "This number is not allowed..." I've contacted the support.
Että vituiks män... :D

TMavica 2015-07-01 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475389)
I was chatting with my friend when suddenly Whatsup lost connection and tried to reconncect back but failed every time. Then I uninstalled Whatsup and installed Android Whatsapp. I got the notification "This number is not allowed..." I've contacted the support.
Että vituiks män... :D

have you keep the log file after exit?

Kake41 2015-07-01 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1475392)
have you keep the log file after exit?

Where is the log file stored..?
I may have already deleted everything related to Whatsup.

TMavica 2015-07-01 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475396)
Where is the log file stored..?
I may have already deleted everything related to Whatsup.

/home/nemo/whatsup-log.txt
whatsup-previous-log.txt

CepiPerez 2015-07-01 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deiv (Post 1475385)
I was convinced too!
Cepi could you explain me how whatsapp finds, and then ban, those who use unofficial applications?
How whatsup, and/or the other applications, prevents to being found?
Thank you very much!

Why could I know how whatsapp detect us?
I'm trying to keep everything updated to official s40 client, and it seems it working fine. I'm using 4 accounts (of course not all by me) and 3 of them has more than 2 years.

Maybe people migrating from android client forgot to close that client before start whatsup for first time, maybe they talk to contacts not in phonebook before sync, maybe they noticed wrong in code and I'm missing it...

Kake41 2015-07-01 16:54

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I have the log files but I am not willing to send them because they contain phone numbers. What's important with the logs, what can I look for?

HtheB 2015-07-01 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475410)
I have the log files but I am not willing to send them because they contain phone numbers. What's important with the logs, what can I look for?

You share your contacts with the biggest shitty company of the world, but not sending a logfile for help to the innocent awesome developer of Whatsup...???

*facepalm*

HtheB 2015-07-01 18:41

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Be aware guys, i got banned as well. I think that the reason was that I turned on both of my clients on (Jolla and Harmattan)

Kake41 2015-07-01 19:31

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Well.. Whatever...
We are busted.

mrsellout 2015-07-01 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475389)
I was chatting with my friend when suddenly Whatsup lost connection and tried to reconncect back but failed every time. Then I uninstalled Whatsup and installed Android Whatsapp. I got the notification "This number is not allowed..." I've contacted the support.
Että vituiks män... :D

Did you reboot after uninstalling Whatsup?

Isn't it possible that the Whatsup daemon was still connected in some funky state, then when you installed AWhatsapp, you made a second connection and they banned you?

HtheB 2015-07-01 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1475432)
Did you reboot after uninstalling Whatsup?

Isn't it possible that the Whatsup daemon was still connected in some funky state, then when you installed AWhatsapp, you made a second connection and they banned you?

Neh, the reason why his connection went gone, was because he got already banned

Schturman 2015-07-02 02:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1475432)
Isn't it possible that the Whatsup daemon was still connected in some funky state, then when you installed AWhatsapp, you made a second connection and they banned you?

It possible.... When I installed Whatsup, I tracked a little bit for AWhatsapp and found once it run (com.whatsapp) in the background without opened app on the homescreen... It's happened after lipstick restart or homescreen crash (red/green blinking led) don't remember now.. I immediately killed this process and not banned :) After this I just uninstalled official whatsapp to prevent banning..
But now I returned to use official whatsapp because of laggs when you want to send image... :/

Kake41 2015-07-02 10:32

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Lol, got unbanned today after sending the nonsense-logfiles and some screenshots. What is this sh**...

https://static.ylilauta.org/files/3i/thumb/y9v3b1wm.jpg

peter-berlin 2015-07-02 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475495)
Lol, got unbanned today after sending the nonsense-logfiles and some screenshots. What is this sh**...

same to me :D - now I am using the original wahtsapp :mad:

Kake41 2015-07-02 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter-berlin (Post 1475497)
same to me :D - now I am using the original wahtsapp :mad:

The Anroid version feels stupid to use after having used Whatsup for a while...

peter-berlin 2015-07-02 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475501)
The Anroid version feels stupid to use after having used Whatsup for a while...

Yes, but it seems at the moment to be no other way to use WhatsApp hassle free.:rolleyes:

HtheB 2015-07-02 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475495)
Lol, got unbanned today after sending the nonsense-logfiles and some screenshots. What is this sh**...

https://static.ylilauta.org/files/3i/thumb/y9v3b1wm.jpg

I've did the same, but this was their reply:

Hi,

Thanks for your message. Your WhatsApp account has been banned because your activity on WhatsApp is in violation of our Terms of Service.

We cannot comment on the individual reasons that have led to your account ban. However, the following actions provide examples of activity that will result in an account becoming banned:
Sending ads or any other form of commercial solicitation.
Sending spam or unsolicited messages.
Submitting content (in status, profile pictures or messages) that is in violation of our terms of service such as unlawful, obscene, threatening, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or any other inappropriate material.
Being annoying to other users.
Being a repeat infringer.
Using an automated system or an unauthorized / unofficial application to send messages through WhatsApp.

Please review our Terms of Service to learn more about the appropriate uses of WhatsApp.

We currently do not have a repeal process in place for unbanning your account.

You can also read this FAQ article for more information on banned accounts: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/23154266

Georgia

WhatsApp Support Team

Kake41 2015-07-02 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1475507)
I've did the same, but this was their reply:

Hi,

Thanks for your message. Your WhatsApp account has been banned because your activity on WhatsApp is in violation of our Terms of Service.

We cannot comment on the individual reasons that have led to your account ban. However, the following actions provide examples of activity that will result in an account becoming banned:
Sending ads or any other form of commercial solicitation.
Sending spam or unsolicited messages.
Submitting content (in status, profile pictures or messages) that is in violation of our terms of service such as unlawful, obscene, threatening, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or any other inappropriate material.
Being annoying to other users.
Being a repeat infringer.
Using an automated system or an unauthorized / unofficial application to send messages through WhatsApp.

Please review our Terms of Service to learn more about the appropriate uses of WhatsApp.

We currently do not have a repeal process in place for unbanning your account.

You can also read this FAQ article for more information on banned accounts: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/23154266

Georgia

WhatsApp Support Team

That's odd.

I've received this kind of message:

Hei,
ja kiitos viestistäsi. It appears that you are using an unauthorized application of WhatsApp. Unauthorized applications are not supported; they contain source code which WhatsApp can not guarantee as safe. Your private information is potentially being passed to 3rd parties. In addition, these may not function correctly and may cease to work at any given time.

Please uninstall your application and install an authorized version from:

[http://www.whatsapp.com/download](ww...p.com/download)

**After installing the authorized version, please reply to this email with a screenshot or an image of your screen from inside the app.**

You can refer to your phone's user manual for detail steps of taking screenshots on your device.

Please note WhatsApp only works on smartphones, non-telephony devices including tablets are not supported.

Georgia

WhatsAppin tukitiimi

Tutustu UKK-sivuumme: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/


The same "Georgia". Well, in my case the message doesn't say that I've been unbanned but after I had read the email, I tried to register to Android Whatsapp and it worked!

peter-berlin 2015-07-02 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1475514)
...
The same "Georgia". Well, in my case the message doesn't say that I've been unbanned but after I had read the email, I tried to register to Android Whatsapp and it worked!

just as I have done it :)

Makeclick 2015-07-02 16:03

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Should someone but more effort to the Jollagram? I started to hate Whatsupp very much (not banned yet ;) )

I hold on with the Whatsupp until they ban me!
http://dhuha.blog.com/files/2011/03/gambaru.jpg

What if, devs send some invite to whatsapp to read or make code together (in my dream right XD). Or They can use it to make official version..

BlazingBird 2015-07-02 17:25

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Recently we saw teaser of SailorGram. Im sure that app will have some potential and a deserving Telegram client.

Saurus 2015-07-02 20:14

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I won't leave WhatsApp as all my friends and family are there... Not banned yet. May I be banned when just using whatsup? Im not switching between Android WA or any other clients... I would prefer not to get banned, last time they said they won't unban me again:D

Kake41 2015-07-03 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saurus (Post 1475565)
I won't leave WhatsApp as all my friends and family are there... Not banned yet. May I be banned when just using whatsup? Im not switching between Android WA or any other clients... I would prefer not to get banned, last time they said they won't unban me again:D

They said same to me when I got banned with Mitäkuuluu. "No unban next time. And now I've been unbanned twice.

itdoesntmatt 2015-07-03 12:36

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they simply cannot ban forever because if number have been recycled from mobile operator, the new person who bought that sim wouldnt be allowed to use the service without a valid matter

Saurus 2015-07-03 19:00

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Number will be unbanned automatically after 2 months if i remember correctly.

HtheB 2015-07-03 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1475624)
they simply cannot ban forever because if number have been recycled from mobile operator, the new person who bought that sim wouldnt be allowed to use the service without a valid matter

According to the message that they replied, they wont unban me...


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