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rob_kouw 2017-09-10 21:00

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by tmi (Post 1534172)
Speaking of backing up the DRM can the backupTA and flashtool be used in virtualized Linux (most likely Virtualbox) succesfully? What I know from experience sometimes "these kind of things" work and sometimes they don't in a VM.

It can be done from Windows too. Even I could...
Check this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99703&page=3

tmi 2017-09-10 21:49

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by rob_kouw (Post 1534177)
It can be done from Windows too. Even I could...

Thanks... even if I don't swing that way I had obviously missed the linked thread.

alfmar 2017-09-12 09:03

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1533772)
Their missing out a lot on paid apps. I know not everyone agree on this but any eco system would need free but also paid apps.

The apps meme began at Apple when they realized that iDevices specs and web specs were all but friendly, and decided to take advantage of it by suggesting that an Apps Developer could become millionaire overnight because there's always a Million Fanbois out there willing to buy your 0.99 bucks apps.

No one actually needs "apps" (except -maybe- if you think that a cellphone has to be a gaming platform).
You need at most a few "killer apps" for those things you actually need to do using a cellphone and that cannot be reliably done in the cellphone browser. That said, you don't want to pay for "apps" when free alternatives are good or even better.

This seriously limits the "paid apps" field. I think Jolla guys were right to not to waste resources on the apple-styled memes (paid apps, in-app purchases, and so on).

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Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1533984)
They don't have to make promises, but just tell us which devices are also planned to be supported.

When they named the F5121 a lot of us bought it. :)
(arrrrrgh, my brand new F5121 already sports a bump before installing SF X!).

What if they publicly "plan to support" a model and then something bad happens? (say, "we can't get reliable wifi support": you can live without bluetooth, but you can't live without wifi...).

juiceme 2017-09-12 09:15

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I'm inclined to think likewise @alfmar does really...
I already have pretty much what I need on SFOS and cannot really imagine what plusses would paid apps bring to the platform.

The few bits and pieces missing I can fill up myself pretty neatly. :D

r0kk3rz 2017-09-12 09:28

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by alfmar (Post 1534239)
No one actually needs "apps" (except -maybe- if you think that a cellphone has to be a gaming platform).
You need at most a few "killer apps" for those things you actually need to do using a cellphone and that cannot be reliably done in the cellphone browser. That said, you don't want to pay for "apps" when free alternatives are good or even better.

Most of the "killer apps" are simply gateways to some kind of service (whatsapp, uber, tinder, spotify .etc) anyway and until those services choose to support sailfish os then there will be a perceived app gap.

Paid apps for tablets would be great, but at current sailfish os tablets are reasonably non-existent so who would buy it?

juiceme 2017-09-12 10:02

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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1534241)
Most of the "killer apps" are simply gateways to some kind of service (whatsapp, uber, tinder, spotify .etc) anyway and until those services choose to support sailfish os then there will be a perceived app gap.

All these are prime examples of "services" which are designed just to lure people in to be exploited and ground to powder to power the provider's machinery.

No thanks! :p

pichlo 2017-09-12 10:35

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1534244)
All these are prime examples of "services" which are designed just to lure people in to be exploited and ground to powder to power the provider's machinery.

No thanks! :p

Not that I disagree with you but pichlo already has a Sailfish device (Jolla 1) and does not need another one and juiceme alone, even if he purchased another one, is not going to save the company.

Jolla needs masses and masses are addicted to those kind of services.

juiceme 2017-09-12 10:43

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I'd rather say the world needs a change of heart!

maximilian1st 2017-09-12 11:43

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
I'd say you are all way off-topic haha

brunelli 2017-09-12 12:37

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by @JamesNoori‏

So... The main camera now supports 16Mpix \o/


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