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zehjotkah 2010-05-05 11:11
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
You get 100 points for reading where I live.
But am I german? You can't be sure...

abill_uk 2010-05-05 11:14
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Everyone on this forum posts "wrong things" (childish abbreviation needed here) that would depend on the mood they are in and reading some of the things on here make me weep.
Anyhow i am off to lunch.

b15cu1t 2010-05-05 12:56
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I have just got a response from Nokia regarding the PR1.2 update after 5 weeks of badgering them and it seems that the release wont be happening any time soon.

Best they said I could hope for would be early next month but not to take that as gospel as its a complex proceedure with lots of testing involved :mad:

They continued to inform me that any further harrassment about the release of the PR1.2 update would be dealt with sternly by Chuck Norris and his trusty trout......

rcarlos 2010-05-05 12:59
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
hmm......So the target is stretched to 10000 posts now

optimistprime 2010-05-05 13:05
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
if you need something to occupy your time while waiting for PR1.2, try to google "mexicanlust". im sure you will you have at least a full days worth of patience afterwards....

SirMuttley 2010-05-05 13:16
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Here are the facts as I understand them (happy to receive corrections):
  • Firmware originally came from inside Nokia (obviously)
  • Firmware is not the same as the HK N900 firmware (no chinese support)
  • Firmware was released on a chinese website

Everything else is mostly speculation.
  • We don't know when it left nokia.
  • We don't know how long it took to get to the chinese website
  • We don't know if it changed hands between Nokia and the website
  • We don't know if it's version number is it's true version number or copied from HK N900 release number

Is it right to slam those who installed it?
No, the beauty of the N900 is it's openness the last thing we want to do is crack down on that. However those that do install it need to understand responsibility of their actions and try not to blame others if things don't go so well.

Is it right to slam those who warned against installing it?
No, as I said above we don't know where it's been and what it contains. It would be irresponsible of the community not to provide warnings.

Should those who warned against installing then gloat when someone reports problems with it?
Of course not, that's just petty and doesn't help. If you don't have anything useful to say then don't.

Should people claim that this firmware is 100% safe?
Of course not, because unless they are from Nokia or responsible for the leak they don't really know.


Disclaimer: I've not installed the firmware as personally I would only want to install something officially from Nokia, however I've read with interest the new features and bug fixes that have been reported by those who did install and eagerly await an offical release.

asfig 2010-05-05 13:19
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I think maybe we should ignore the pr 1.2. Every day I think it will be today, will be tomorrow and nokia will not comment on that.

If with this unofficial version of the internet, there isnt a comment from the nokia to official version is because it will still take a long time to leave. Otherwise, the nokia would say something like "do not install this version, the official version will come out within a week ..."

I love my N900, but I think it was a mistake i bought it, if was today i would have opted for other equipment.

I think nokia has lost much market and currently is not able to throw a good competitor to aple (what might have happened if they had given attention to the N900).

SirMuttley 2010-05-05 13:19
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
and after all that I posted on the wrong thread. smooth

Hagar 2010-05-05 13:21
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Ok Chuck.....Can we breathe now?

cashclientel 2010-05-05 13:23
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by b15cu1t (Post 644479)
I have just got a response from Nokia regarding the PR1.2 update after 5 weeks of badgering them and it seems that the release wont be happening any time soon.

Best they said I could hope for would be early next month but not to take that as gospel as its a complex proceedure with lots of testing involved.
Please can you attach the email to a post so we can all read it.

zehjotkah 2010-05-05 13:24
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644419)
Everyone on this forum posts "wrong things" (childish abbreviation needed here) that would depend on the mood they are in and reading some of the things on here make me weep.
Anyhow i am off to lunch.
I correct the "wrong things" part to "false statements" if you understand that better.
But if "they" (you) are constantly in the mood to question facts given by both official Nokians and insider, post false statements regarding these facts, it is not funny anymore.

I will clarify this particular case a last time:

The leaked firmware is not the same firmware installed on the recently launched devices in HongKong.
As I stated earlier in this very thread it is a different branch-line, because the chinese software differs a lot from the european or american one. The HongKong firmware is based on PR 1.2 (as the leaked one) but on an early version (like the leaked one is an early version).
The leaked one is nowhere near alpha status of the finished PR 1.2, so you can expect a lot more from the finished one.
If the leaked one appeared first on a chinese site doesn't matter. It is not the same. You stated it would be the same.
You said, that many users here are jealous, because they couldn't develop a firmware like that.
That's again wrong, Mr. Sir Engineer. They (we) are in fact very happy to see such a progress, because they (we) stated, that Nokia has not abandoned the N900 and now they (we) are confirmed in their (our) statement.
In fact we are happy, too, if this firmware auments the usefulness of your N900 for you. But we want to warn relatively unexperienced users, that they should wait for the official firmware (the firmware to be released, when Nokia thinks it is ready) to avoid problems.
Also we have the ethic moral to question the action taken by the person who has leaked this piece of software, because to decide when something is ready to be released has nothing to do with openess.
You don't need to have the same opinion, but you shouldn't tell everyone that this leaked firmware is 100% safe (which it is not!).
We said it could be a modified one. We don't know, but it could be, the possiblility is there. So be careful.

I hope this clarifies something for you.

abill_uk 2010-05-05 13:27
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 644512)
Here are the facts as I understand them (happy to receive corrections):
  • Firmware originally came from inside Nokia (obviously)
  • Firmware is not the same as the HK N900 firmware (no chinese support)
  • Firmware was released on a chinese website

Everything else is mostly speculation.
  • We don't know when it left nokia.
  • We don't know how long it took to get to the chinese website
  • We don't know if it changed hands between Nokia and the website
  • We don't know if it's version number is it's true version number or copied from HK N900 release number

Is it right to slam those who installed it?
No, the beauty of the N900 is it's openness the last thing we want to do is crack down on that. However those that do install it need to understand responsibility of their actions and try not to blame others if things don't go so well.

Is it right to slam those who warned against installing it?
No, as I said above we don't know where it's been and what it contains. It would be irresponsible of the community not to provide warnings.

Should those who warned against installing then gloat when someone reports problems with it?
Of course not, that's just petty and doesn't help. If you don't have anything useful to say then don't.

Should people claim that this firmware is 100% safe?
Of course not, because unless they are from Nokia or responsible for the leak they don't really know.


Disclaimer: I've not installed the firmware as personally I would only want to install something officially from Nokia, however I've read with interest the new features and bug fixes that have been reported by those who did install and eagerly await an offical release.
This is the first post i actually 100% agree with you on and the only thing i can say is THANKYOU for being honest !.

ujwalsoni 2010-05-05 13:29
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
HEY! Don't spoil this thread with grown up talk!:mad:

zehjotkah 2010-05-05 13:29
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 644512)
Here are the facts as I understand them (happy to receive corrections):
  • Firmware originally came from inside Nokia (obviously)
  • Firmware is not the same as the HK N900 firmware (no chinese support)
  • Firmware was released on a chinese website

Everything else is mostly speculation.
  • We don't know when it left nokia.
  • We don't know how long it took to get to the chinese website
  • We don't know if it changed hands between Nokia and the website
  • We don't know if it's version number is it's true version number or copied from HK N900 release number

Is it right to slam those who installed it?
No, the beauty of the N900 is it's openness the last thing we want to do is crack down on that. However those that do install it need to understand responsibility of their actions and try not to blame others if things don't go so well.

Is it right to slam those who warned against installing it?
No, as I said above we don't know where it's been and what it contains. It would be irresponsible of the community not to provide warnings.

Should those who warned against installing then gloat when someone reports problems with it?
Of course not, that's just petty and doesn't help. If you don't have anything useful to say then don't.

Should people claim that this firmware is 100% safe?
Of course not, because unless they are from Nokia or responsible for the leak they don't really know.


Disclaimer: I've not installed the firmware as personally I would only want to install something officially from Nokia, however I've read with interest the new features and bug fixes that have been reported by those who did install and eagerly await an offical release.
well spoken!

edit:
and by the way Mr. Sir Engineer, is there a difference in communication from you based on my nacionality?

abill_uk 2010-05-05 13:34
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
The problem with you zehjotkah is you take things way way too seriously and fail to remember that the talk goes with the swing of the moods on the thread at that particular time.
Lighten up and stop being so dammm dramatic and serious will you because we are not robots and usually spontanious cos of that very fact.
WHEN you find out where the leaked fw came from then you can talk so untill then stop the seriousness ok.
The reason i said its 100% safe is simply because i know something you dont.
Ok enough said so from now on lighten up !.

Bratag 2010-05-05 13:39
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644546)
The problem with you zehjotkah is you take things way way too seriously and fail to remember that the talk goes with the swing of the moods on the thread at that particular time.
Lighten up and stop being so dammm dramatic and serious will you because we are not robots and usually spontanious cos of that very fact.
WHEN you find out where the leaked fw came from then you can talk so untill then stop the seriousness ok.
The reason i said its 100% safe is simply because i know something you dont.
Ok enough said so from now on lighten up !.
Did the voices in your head tell you something we don't know? If you have information, present it with proof and I am sure people will sing your praises. Until you do so all we have is the word of a bloke who, quite frankly, comes off in several threads as batshit crazy.

SirMuttley 2010-05-05 13:39
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644536)
This is the first post i actually 100% agree with you on and the only thing i can say is THANKYOU for being honest !.

Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644546)
The reason i said its 100% safe is simply because i know something you dont.
Given you agreed 100% with what I said above that would mean you are:

a) an employee of Nokia or
b) responsible for the leaked firmware.

Perhaps you wish to rephrase ;)

zehjotkah 2010-05-05 13:40
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644546)
The problem with you zehjotkah is you take things way way too seriously and fail to remember that the talk goes with the swing of the moods on the thread at that particular time.
Lighten up and stop being so dammm dramatic and serious will you because we are not robots and usually spontanious cos of that very fact.
WHEN you find out where the leaked fw came from then you can talk so untill then stop the seriousness ok.
The reason i said its 100% safe is simply because i know something you dont.
Ok enough said so from now on lighten up !.
some humans are serious, others are childish. I prefer to be serious, it gives me huge advantages at my daily work. So that's not a problem, but different peronalities.
Give me an example, where I was dramatic, Mr. Sir Engineer.
I know where the firmware is from, therefore I warn to not use it.
I doubt your last statement. :)

Laughingstok 2010-05-05 13:43
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Mornin folks.

ujwalsoni 2010-05-05 13:51
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 644561)
Mornin folks.
LOOK! They're talking all grown up stuff THEY'VE DESTROYED IT WAAAA:eek: QUICKLY SAY SOMETHING NONSENSICAL

Optimus 2010-05-05 13:53
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 644561)
Mornin folks.
Your entrance borked the server!

Laughingstok 2010-05-05 13:55
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I noticed. :(

abill_uk 2010-05-05 13:56
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 644552)
Did the voices in your head tell you something we don't know? If you have information, present it with proof and I am sure people will sing your praises. Until you do so all we have is the word of a bloke who, quite frankly, comes off in several threads as batshit crazy.
Before YOU go any further please at least try to be a LOT more educated and gentle with your wording because quite frankly i have eaten boys much bigger than you for the garbage you just come out with.
Respect the fact that IF i wanted to say anything to enlighten anyone i would have done it by now so there is obviously a reason for not doing so ok !.
Batshit crazy am i, well one thing for sure here i am NEVER as desperate as you or the majority of uneducated whimps on this forum that will do ANYTHING to drag information out of people when they simply will not give so there must be a valid reason for that ask yourself !!!.
We are talking about an electronics device that a batshit crazy company called NOKIA created so DONT push the argument to me that you should be directing at the maker ok.
Finally i am sure as hell NOT looking for praises in any way or form because i have my own world and life which is obviously a lot more exciting than yours looking at the way you present yourself wanting to know EVERYTHING about this firmware so desperately , wait and be patient and you might just get a few suprises ok.

Laughingstok 2010-05-05 14:00
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I think I figured out the code:

YOU
LOT
IF
NEVER
ANYTHING
NOKIA
DONT
NOT
EVERYTHING

Did I get it?

Optimus 2010-05-05 14:01
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 644582)
I think I figured out the code:

YOU
LOT
IF
NEVER
ANYTHING
NOKIA
DONT
NOT
EVERYTHING

Did I get it?
BINGO! :eek:

zehjotkah 2010-05-05 14:03
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644575)
Before YOU go any further please at least try to be a LOT more educated and gentle with your wording because quite frankly i have eaten boys much bigger than you for the garbage you just come out with.
Respect the fact that IF i wanted to say anything to enlighten anyone i would have done it by now so there is obviously a reason for not doing so ok !.
Batshit crazy am i, well one thing for sure here i am NEVER as desperate as you or the majority of uneducated whimps on this forum that will do ANYTHING to drag information out of people when they simply will not give so there must be a valid reason for that ask yourself !!!.
We are talking about an electronics device that a batshit crazy company called NOKIA created so DONT push the argument to me that you should be directing at the maker ok.
Finally i am sure as hell NOT looking for praises in any way or form because i have my own world and life which is obviously a lot more exciting than yours looking at the way you present yourself wanting to know EVERYTHING about this firmware so desperately , wait and be patient and you might just get a few suprises ok.
You turned his words in his mouth.
He said you should proof your assumptions.
By the way you didn't answered to my post.

Spotfist 2010-05-05 14:03
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Can we please have a section created called Off Topic++ and this thread moved there? Seriously this thread can't even stay on the topic that it's off??? If that even makes any sense?

Perhaps doing that will create a paradox and thereby force Nokia to release PR1.2?

abill_uk 2010-05-05 14:04
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 644540)
HEY! Don't spoil this thread with grown up talk!:mad:
SHADAP ya face you lol

Wichall 2010-05-05 14:08
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I've just been informed that PR1.2 will be released as soon as the volcanic ash has cleared up.

The final version is currently residing in a briefcase circling Europe in a split zip file spanning 122 3½-inch floppy disks next to a CD containing the changelog and a 100 page Word document explaining the reason for storing it on floppy disks.

Apparently we can make requests for the volcano to stop erupting.

Emails can be sent to this address: eyjafjallajokull@iceland.is and shall be printed out and hand delivered to the main opening of the volcano.

abill_uk 2010-05-05 14:09
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 644587)
You turned his words in his mouth.
He said you should proof your assumptions.
By the way you didn't answered to my post.
For your information i am simply NOT obliged to ANYONE to prove anything ok and the reason i dont particularly want to answer to you is because after your stoopid comments i choose to rather ignore you than reply to you.
I am not as desperate obviously as you lot about this N900 as guess what... i actually have a life outside of the N900.

rcarlos 2010-05-05 14:14
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wichall (Post 644594)

Emails can be sent to this address: eyjafjallajokull@iceland.is and shall be printed out and hand delivered to the main opening of the volcano.
I still couldn't figure out the way its pronounced.....

abill_uk 2010-05-05 14:15
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 644582)
I think I figured out the code:

YOU
LOT
IF
NEVER
ANYTHING
NOKIA
DONT
NOT
EVERYTHING

Did I get it?
I dont know what it is your on but i am sure everyone would just love to know ! :p

zehjotkah 2010-05-05 14:18
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644596)
For your information i am simply NOT obliged to ANYONE to prove anything ok
Then your statements have no value.
(the earth is flat, I have evidence, but I won't tell you because I'm Mr. Sir Engineer)

Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644596)
and the reason i dont particularly want to answer to you is because after your stoopid comments i choose to rather ignore you than reply to you.
You're answering to me at the moment, don't you? I think you simply run out of arguments.
BTW, which stupid (this is the way how stupid is spelled) comments from me in particular?

Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644596)
I am not as desperate obviously as you lot about this N900 as guess what... i actually have a life outside of the N900.
That made me laugh.
You, who was totally stunned be the leaked firmware telling me (who warned and not installed this leaked firmware) that I am desperate? Where is the logic Mr. Sir Engineer? And have I ever doubted, that you have a real life?
You still haven't answered me, if you are a racist or not.

gabby131 2010-05-05 14:20
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
problems about some guy? dial 1-800-fak-n-gay

PEACE!!! :D

Wichall 2010-05-05 14:21
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I've just been told that Eyjafjallajokull does not approve of the seriousness that this thread appears to be taking.

Do not upset the volcano if you wish to see PR1.2 any time soon.

Optimus 2010-05-05 14:22
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Okay *****es, fighting is not awesome!
http://www.thegauntlet.com/videos/th...reily_dftl.jpg

Parody 2010-05-05 14:25
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rcarlos (Post 644603)
I still couldn't figure out the way its pronounced.....
It's an anagram for Abill_uk :D

cashclientel 2010-05-05 14:28
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Let us look to great thinkers from the past for thought. I found this dated 307 BC from Epicurus:

"Is Nokia willing to release PR1.2, but not able? Then they are impotent. Are they able, but not willing? Then they are malevolent. Are they both able and willing? Whence then is evil?"

abill_uk 2010-05-05 14:55
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
It just dawned on me that this thread is way way too intelligent for me so best i go find something else to do lol.

Bratag 2010-05-05 14:57
Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 644575)
Before YOU go any further please at least try to be a LOT more educated and gentle with your wording because quite frankly i have eaten boys much bigger than you for the garbage you just come out with.
Respect the fact that IF i wanted to say anything to enlighten anyone i would have done it by now so there is obviously a reason for not doing so ok !.
Batshit crazy am i, well one thing for sure here i am NEVER as desperate as you or the majority of uneducated whimps on this forum that will do ANYTHING to drag information out of people when they simply will not give so there must be a valid reason for that ask yourself !!!.
We are talking about an electronics device that a batshit crazy company called NOKIA created so DONT push the argument to me that you should be directing at the maker ok.
Finally i am sure as hell NOT looking for praises in any way or form because i have my own world and life which is obviously a lot more exciting than yours looking at the way you present yourself wanting to know EVERYTHING about this firmware so desperately , wait and be patient and you might just get a few suprises ok.
Case rested.


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