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Wichall 2010-05-06 15:05

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Edit: ignore me, telnet made sense

cashclientel 2010-05-06 16:03

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
I think it's obvious here that Nokia need to open up testing of the new firmwares to the community as a whole.

1. Saves them money paying testers
2. Gives them a massive amount of real world testing data
3. Confidence that when they release to the public there will be less bugs.

If open source/community works for support and application why can't it be used for the operating system?

Or alternatively more in keeping with this thread:
http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...ght-is-out.jpg

n-mi 2010-05-06 16:28

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashclientel (Post 646626)

OMG ! What an ugly cat :eek:

vaibhavsharma 2010-05-06 17:13

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

Dave999 2010-05-06 17:21

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"The release date speculation thread has crossed 4 thousand posts" :D

Eero Tamminen? :confused:

rcarlos 2010-05-06 17:24

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vaibhav....sensible post after some time in this thread

xperto 2010-05-06 17:24

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

Thank you :)

myrjola 2010-05-06 17:27

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

Thanks, best post on this thread so far :)

vaibhavsharma 2010-05-06 17:31

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Hehe.. thanks! Credit to @mwkn for the original find. I've not posted in this thread before, but have enjoyed it immensely! I was thinking may be I could do a post with some of the awesome images that people have come up with. But it'll be a task to find them... lets see..

PS: Can't wait for PR 1.2 to come out! ;)

bbin 2010-05-06 17:34

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

Thanks! First useful post in 3 weeks.

notty72 2010-05-06 17:36

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Im new to all this though i have been following this and the other threads from the beginning what id like to know is if pr 1.2 was good enough to release on the hong kong version of the n900 why isnt it good enough for us yeah I know theres talk of bugs but are we to believe that the hong kong version has these bugs too i know there is no fm transmitter included in the hong kong version so whats is the deference between ours and theirs sorry in advance if this is a stupid question or has been asked and answered before.

lsolano 2010-05-06 17:46

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/


"So there you have it, yes the firmware is delayed and no we don’t know when it is coming. All we know is that it is coming for sure."

How can someone just say that?

Does not he have a boss?

Did nokia forget about the small detail that they have thousands of customers?

I don't want to see my boss face if I tell him that I will have my work done for sure, but that I just don't know when.

twoboxen 2010-05-06 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notty72 (Post 646782)
Im new to all this though i have been following this and the other threads from the beginning what id like to know is if pr 1.2 was good enough to release on the hong kong version of the n900 why isnt it good enough for us yeah I know theres talk of bugs but are we to believe that the hong kong version has these bugs too i know there is no fm transmitter included in the hong kong version so whats is the deference between ours and theirs sorry in advance if this is a stupid question or has been asked and answered before.

Good points, BAD punctuation.

egoshin 2010-05-06 17:54

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

It is not a good policy - PR1.1.1 has some annoying bugs which irritate users each day. For exam - rendering blocking by some video file with unsupported codec. After you put that video to N900 you can't use system media player anymore for video, even for video shots from camera. So, two month delay could be acceptable but three months delay up to the end of May - definitely not.

sophocha 2010-05-06 17:58

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God! Is this thread still going???

Go download the leaked version and close this thread already!

Laughingstok 2010-05-06 17:59

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Can't close this thread. It's now like a ball of plasma, it just grows in size and turns everything else into plasma as it moves.

vaibhavsharma 2010-05-06 18:00

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 646798)
"So there you have it, yes the firmware is delayed and no we don’t know when it is coming. All we know is that it is coming for sure."

How can someone just say that?

Does not he have a boss?

Did nokia forget about the small detail that they have thousands of customers?

I don't want to see my boss face if I tell him that I will have my work done for sure, but that I just don't know when.

Hey, those are my words and not Eero Tamminen's. So you can go easy on the good Nokian who actually came forward to share! :)

I've edited the post to put quotes in and a demarcation so that such a misunderstanding doesn't happen!

bandora 2010-05-06 18:16

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I just dropped by here to say hi... Hi!

Parody 2010-05-06 18:36

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 646798)
"So there you have it, yes the firmware is delayed and no we don’t know when it is coming. All we know is that it is coming for sure."

How can someone just say that?

Does not he have a boss?

Did nokia forget about the small detail that they have thousands of customers?

I don't want to see my boss face if I tell him that I will have my work done for sure, but that I just don't know when.

We are not his boss :)

Dave999 2010-05-06 18:48

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Wait wait waaiiiiiit...wait wait...waaiiiit waiiit wait waiiiit waaait wait :)

msa 2010-05-06 18:51

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 644992)
Gotten a little quiet in here.

everytime i look in this thread i die a little bit inside...

uvatbc 2010-05-06 18:52

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsolano (Post 646798)
Does not he have a boss?
Did nokia forget about the small detail that they have thousands of customers?
I don't want to see my boss face if I tell him that I will have my work done for sure, but that I just don't know when.

I'd see it as a very positive sign : Nokia has bosses who are capable of understanding that if they rush the QA cycle and push out a half baked product, then the real bosses - the customers - will burn them at the stake.
If you cared to read the content of that blog, it seems that they aren't just interested in pushing new features. They want us to be able to use the phone for long periods of time without needing a reboot.
They're also doing performance testing to ensure that the speed of the device remains consistent over an uptime of a week or more.
From a stability and performance point of view, that means Nokia is pushing PR1.2 towards the level of stability I've experienced in other smartphones.

I'm pretty certain you'd want your phone to be stable and fast to show off to your iPhony, beebee and goog-phony friends.

For now, relax and enjoy the summer. Have a mai-tai!

Dave999 2010-05-06 18:54

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True. But can also be that you don't have any customers left ;)

Focus on QA - Release 2012 :D

twoboxen 2010-05-06 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 646922)
everytime i look in this thread i die a little bit inside...

My goodness. There must not be much left of you at this point.

netAdept 2010-05-06 18:58

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646736)
Here is why the firmware is late, at least this is part of the reason.

http://maemocentral.com/2010/05/06/h...-n900-is-late/

If Nokia had any respect for us as customers, someone from the company would have come out and said all of this officially a month ago, when they realised it was going to take a little longer than they thought.

Not communicating with an expectant customer base causes bad feeling. This thread is enough evidence of that.

Dave999 2010-05-06 19:03

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Also, features in Pr 1.2 will probably be the same in World wide releases as HK release. This means that the features must already been functional tested and performance tested before release to HK. So now what. languages that takes weeks to test?

nosa101 2010-05-06 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 646949)
Also, features in Pr 1.2 will probably be the same in World wide releases as HK release. This means that the features must already been functional tested and performance tested before release to HK. So now what. languages that takes weeks to test?

I think it's a lot different when you put firware in a new device. I think the delays are as a result of compatibility issues with previous firmwares. The HK version never had pr 1.1 or 1.0 or prior use

lsolano 2010-05-06 19:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vaibhavsharma (Post 646834)
Hey, those are my words and not Eero Tamminen's. So you can go easy on the good Nokian who actually came forward to share! :

ahhhhhh :-) thanks for make things clear.

notty72 2010-05-06 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 646805)
Good points, BAD punctuation.

i didnt know this was a english lesson just wanted an answer not be criticized for my grammer.

geohsia 2010-05-06 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by netAdept (Post 646937)
If Nokia had any respect for us as customers, someone from the company would have come out and said all of this officially a month ago, when they realised it was going to take a little longer than they thought.

Not communicating with an expectant customer base causes bad feeling. This thread is enough evidence of that.

If they can predict exactly how long these issues would take, they should be in the stock market and not releasing software. Your assumption that they knew exactly how long it'd take is misguided. They're certainly not going to let the community know about every bump they run into.

If this was stressful for you waiting, imagine what its like for the coders and testers dealing with the issue.

They're not fixing typos here folks. A test cycle takes more than just a few hours and if they find a problem they have to reproduce it, then they have to diagnose it, fix it, unit test and if all has gone well go through another full cycle. Turnaround on a major issue can easily take a week if they find and fix a problem the first go around, longer if they need to iterate or have multiple issues.

Chilax and go do something fun. It'll get here soon enough.

xperto 2010-05-06 19:51

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We are definitely crossing 6k :D

netAdept 2010-05-06 19:56

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 647009)
Your assumption that they knew exactly how long it'd take is misguided. They're certainly not going to let the community know about every bump they run into.

"It's taking a bit longer than we thought guys ..."

There, that didn't hurt did it?

twoboxen 2010-05-06 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by netAdept (Post 647017)
"It's taking a bit longer than we thought guys ..."

There, that didn't hurt did it?

Nokia is a vertically-challenged person and we are the legs. It will hurt, because they'll have to break us to grow.

John McClane 2010-05-06 20:12

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For God's sake. There are plenty of developers, trying to get the PR 1.2 done, and trying hard every day. Can anyone think if some of you people whining, where the ones working in Nokia. How stressfull would it be? :cool:

Dave999 2010-05-06 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 647043)
For God's sake. There are plenty of developers, trying to get the PR 1.2 done, and trying hard every day. Can anyone think if some of you people whining, where the ones working in Nokia. How stressfull would it be? :cool:

some of us are...Just not for nokia :D

optimistprime 2010-05-06 20:19

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[QUOTE=John McClane;647043]For God's sake. There are plenty of developers, trying to get the PR 1.2 done, and trying hard every day. Can anyone think if some of you people whining, where the ones working in Nokia. How stressfull would it be? :cool:[/QUOTE


Grown men can handle stress.....its a job. we all have em. tell em to pull their panties up and stop pissing sitting down.. those pansies!

geohsia 2010-05-06 20:21

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by netAdept (Post 647017)
"It's taking a bit longer than we thought guys ..."

There, that didn't hurt did it?

Seriously? Isn't it obvious? Or did you think they're drinking Mai-Tai's playing ping pong and waxing philosophical about unicorns and trying to "build suspense".

They're not baking cupcakes.

UNderworld 2010-05-06 20:57

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5000
more char

fatalsaint 2010-05-06 21:00

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 647059)
Grown men can handle stress.....its a job. we all have em. tell em to pull their panties up and stop pissing sitting down.. those pansies!

So... Women developers can't and should quit?

Just wondering... .:p

geohsia 2010-05-06 21:05

Re: Periodic speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) starring drunk Laughingstok as Chuck Norris -- now with trout!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by optimistprime (Post 647059)
Grown men can handle stress.....its a job. we all have em. tell em to pull their panties up and stop pissing sitting down.. those pansies!

I'm sure the folks working in Nokia handling the stress just fine.

If you on the other hand have to resort to name calling because a few days of waiting is too much for you to handle, you may want to look in the mirror first the next time you want to go name calling.


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