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heavyt 2008-06-18 23:10

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Thanks for your hard work, I have been using the Dialer for awhile now and have sold a N800 due to it. People ask me “is that a cellphone” and I say “it is a wifi phone”, now they want to know more! :D

But I am now having a problem making connections, keep getting busy tones, and yes I know how to set the cookies for grandcentral mobile.

What about changing the call log so it only show a phone number once, as it is now ever time a number is call it is added to the list. I know how to clear the list but maybe others (non techies) do not know how or the steps put them off.

Thanks for your time.

heavyt 2008-06-18 23:27

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
I think I found a bug in the Dialer. On my N800 the Dialer will work for one phone call the next call will give me a busy tone. If I close the Dialer then restart it I can now make one call the next call will be busy. Can someone try this to see what they get.

racky 2008-06-19 02:06

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Yes, same thing happens to me. The old version would automatically close by itself. This version will stay open, but you can't make the second call unless you close it and open again.

heavyt 2008-06-19 02:20

You are right about the last version closing after making a call, I had forgotten that.

z2n 2008-06-19 15:41

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyBoy (Post 193237)
works great, thx for taking time and making efforts for doing this.

You're welcome.
<SNIP!>
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Originally Posted by ShyBoy (Post 193237)
so I was wondering that if dialer can't find cookie just show some kind of status somehwere on the interface says that cookie missing.

Something to let the user know that the current cookie is not good and he need to re-launch his browser.

thanks once again.

Hmmm....I can certainly change the error message to indicate that the cookie might be part of the problem. However, the Grandcentral Dialer program doesn't check for the cookie itself...the python script is really just a fancy way of entering the phone number--the web connection to grandcentral.com and the cookie access are handled by the wget program. The python script can determine 3 things:
  1. if the wget connection to grandcentral.com failed
  2. if the connection succeeded but grandcentral.com was unable to dial the number
  3. if the web connection and dialling were successful (but not whether the call was successful--a busy signal still counts as "success" as far as dialling)
In the case of #1, the tablet is probably off-line, or there's a firewall or something else that's blocking the http connection to grandcentral.com. I'll try to clarify that in the error message.

In the case of #2, it's most likely that the cookie is missing, and I can do a test on the output from grandcentral.com to make a better guess about that. I can improve this error message too.

In the case of #3, there's no way to distinguish dialing a number and connecting vrs. getting a busy signal.

Thanks for the suggestions.

z2n 2008-06-19 15:44

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racky (Post 193357)
Yes, same thing happens to me. The old version would automatically close by itself. This version will stay open, but you can't make the second call unless you close it and open again.

Hmmm....I'll need to test this more.

The application now stays open because several people requested that, but I can't think of any reason why that would interfere with dialling the 2nd (and successive) calls.

Are you certain that you have "hung up" (closed the connection) in your VOIP program (such as Gizmo)? Remember, Grandcentral Dialer does nothing to establish the VOIP connection, it's merely a convenient way of submitting a phone number for grandcentral.com
to dial. I don't know how long it takes grandcentral.com to "hang up" and allow you to make another call.

z2n 2008-06-19 15:57

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 193309)
Thanks for your hard work, I have been using the Dialer for awhile now and have sold a N800 due to it. People ask me “is that a cellphone” and I say “it is a wifi phone”, now they want to know more! :D

You're welcome.
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 193309)
But I am now having a problem making connections, keep getting busy tones, and yes I know how to set the cookies for grandcentral mobile.

I'll look into that, but I suspect that it is not directly caused by Grandcentral Dialer.
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 193309)
What about changing the call log so it only show a phone number once, as it is now ever time a number is call it is added to the list. I know how to clear the list but maybe others (non techies) do not know how or the steps put them off.

Hmmm....I guess this brings up the question of what the drop-down menu is really showing...is the menu a list of the last N calls (as it is now, possibly including duplicates), or is it a unique list of the last N calls?

The history file also includes a date/time stamp, which I think is really valuable, but that's not shown now in the Grandcentral Dialer program. I'm reluctant to give that up, but I do think there's a fairly simple way to make the list of number in the drop-down menu unique.

I'll work on that for the next release.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 193309)
Thanks for your time.


dkwatts 2008-06-19 22:19

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application (version 0.4 now available)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z2n (Post 192822)
I'm sure it was just an oversight, but you really did mean to start your reply with some kind of "thank you", right? :)

Just being politely creative... :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by z2n (Post 192822)
I feel that the <CLEAR> button is "best used" for exactly what it does now.

The package is open-source, and an easy-to-edit python script. If you are of the opinion that something is a "must-have", then make the change. Personally, I don't want to clear numbers from the history list (and that's actually more difficult than it seems). The history list is stored in a file: /home/user/.gcdialerhist, which lists the number called and a timestamp.

When I 1)manually delete /.gcdialerhist, and 2)restart Grandcentral Dialer, the history is cleared, so...
would I simply code the <CLEAR> button to automatically delete .gcdialerhist?

Thanks for your hard work...

racky 2008-06-20 04:12

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z2n (Post 193522)
Hmmm....I'll need to test this more.

The application now stays open because several people requested that, but I can't think of any reason why that would interfere with dialling the 2nd (and successive) calls.

Are you certain that you have "hung up" (closed the connection) in your VOIP program (such as Gizmo)? Remember, Grandcentral Dialer does nothing to establish the VOIP connection, it's merely a convenient way of submitting a phone number for grandcentral.com
to dial. I don't know how long it takes grandcentral.com to "hang up" and allow you to make another call.


Yes, I did. What I can think of is if you don't close the program, the second number will be appended to the first number and will cause the program to dial a number that doesn't exist. Just like if the first number is 619-331-4554. The second time if I dial the same number again it will become 619-331-4554-619-331-4554. I have tried to dial the long time as a first call and it became busy. Any time if you dial a number that doesn't exist, you get a busy signal. What do you think?
p.s. 619-331-4554 is not my phone number, I just use it as an example. So try your own number :)

slip 2008-06-20 05:00

Re: Grandcentral Dialer Application
 
just want to send my appreciation for your effort on this. the new UI is much better.

i also had some peculiar behavior w/ the new release, but didn't figure out any rhyme or reason to them.

by the way, i'm kind of curious to peak at thhe code for this project. i have zero experience with python, but i'm just curious to see what the code would look like for a project like this. is there a way to read the source?


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