Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

Here we 100% agree.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

This isn't very accurate the way you imply it. Tmobile's speeds are consistent because TMo has ratcheted the network to build in for capacity issues. As it matures and gets more users, it will allow for more speed up. Its in safe mode right now, but consistent, high quality, reliable, and nothing like at&t, accordng to jdpowers. It takes time to launch a city, and alot of that is the fcc's fault for releasing the spectrum.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

Well, we can all (hopefully) agree that the 770 and 8xx series are a far cry hardware-wise from the N900. Perhaps, to help those complaining about the new ARM not being clocked high enough, over the course of the next year or two the power drain/heat/stability issues for that core can be worked out and we'll see a 910 or 920 with faster clocks that will indeed retain compatibility as the core hardware will remain the same, possibly some flash memory boost (I don't know what the limit is on the new ARM). This will allow development of Maemo to continue on said 920 device and once it is polished and ready for release, the 920 can have the new code out of the box (a la 3GS) and at the same time or nearly so, current 910/900 owners can update their firmware to match.

The bottom line is, it's a choice-buy it, don't buy it. If Nokia jacks around and people get frustrated enough, elements will fail and they'll learn a hard and painful lesson. If they try and make everyone happy, we'd never see a new Maemo device. They have to make choices too; r&d takes time and money and those neck-breathers are relentless. Time will tell if they are able to please everyone by way of a broader Maemo lineup.

Oh, and despite being anti-Red Fruit since I heard of them in the 80s, I agree and admit to their successes with the iPhoney. I'll never own one, but they obviously did more than one thing right. (my colleagues had dropped jaws when I admitted admiration for Red Fruit's market-sucking performance the past few years.)

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

Palm Pre doesn't support OBEX.

I've yet to be out of my cell network - and I've traveled 49 out of 50 US states. Mind you, when I'm out of area, I tend to know where I'm going anyway.

Too bad Wayfinder isn't the same as Navteq because Wayfinder on the N810 basically sucked.

On your platform of choice, you have Navteq and whatever Ovi will hopefully deliver. On the iPhone, it's there (Google Maps) by default and other options exist.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

Nice device. I want one!

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

holy mackerel ! Eur 600 ?

best price still: N800 !

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

If that 50th state gets really cold, then you'll have a hard time getting lost as long as you stay on the road, there's only 4 highways. Though knowing which way is what can get tricky sometimes.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

But you compare things you don't own together? I think N900 looks promising, it looks like the PIM apps are the ones I really really miss on the N810 and video playback capabilities.

Now I own an iPhone since 1 year and NEVER looked back to N810. I look back to the camera from my N82, that's it. With my 3GS it doesn't hurt so much.

After a year I must say: Apple doens't have all features and it's not "open", but everything works as expected. This is one huge plus over technical data.

I never miss changing batteries or OBEX transfers (I have WiFI).

One other thing is the integration with my desktop. It's feels it's the mobile version of my desktop. There are so few times I really miss my desktop. iPhone can do everything I REALLY need on-the-go.

I don't need 1000 features implemented 3/4 to release I COULD do if I want or hack this or that. I need 100 mobile features which works very easy.

Ok, one point is lack of multitasking for Skype. But I don't Skype that much or do oversea calls or need the feature I could do oversea Skype calls if I want. Skype ates a look battery on the N810 (for a good voice quality I must powered off power saving in Skype app) and it ates battery on the iPhone.

And I don't need a lot of phone features on the go. I need an internet tablet with exchange features which works.

Now I'm happy with iPhone since one year and maybe N900 becomes a gadget / 2nd phone, because N900 is what I expected on my N810.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

I thank you for your contributions.

Question. Apple is trying their best to make it (more of) a crime to jailbreak their phones. Why would one want to compare a stock Nokia with a jailbroken Iphone?

To me, that's kinda like saying that an Acer that comes with Photoshop can be compared to a Lenovo that has access to The Pirate Bay.

The Iphone isn't ment to be jailbroken, Apple works against it, it's against the user agreement and they want to brand you as a terrorist for jailbreaking the phone... Some jailbroken phones have had side effects with being denied upgrades, if I remember correctly...

And the Nokia could always get access to a whole lot other stash by doing stuff to it, too, like installing stuff like EasyDeb. But that, and what follows (like OpenOffice) is also not something we should add to the brag list - unless we want to add the feature "EasyDeb can be installed".

Really, I think stuff you need to breach the user agreement to do, comes with a bit of bitter taste.

Now, all of this is personal opinions and as such, I understand and respect that jailbreaking is more or less required to get the best out of an Iphone.

But jailbreaking isn't a feature, it's a crime. According to Apple.

Re: N900 vs Iphone.
 

Jailbreaking an iPhone is just like breaking the warranty seal of your device to get extra mileage out of it. What Apple says in their PR campaign to appease their developer community doesn't have much bearing on me. Apple have made claims (following RIAA) that pirating aids drug dealers (??) and terrorists (????), but no one is going to get sued for jailbreaking their iPhones and if they ever need to claim the warranty on their iPhones, jailbreaking is completely reversible.

What this practically means for iPhone user is that they get the best of both worlds. They get community created apps and still get all the content from developers that require DRM protection. Yes, certain premium contents requires DRM before the developers will even consider making the app available for said platform. I think this'll be obvious in time when we compare the apps available for maemo vs the iphone.

PS: You can even enable multitasking capability by running community created utility (backgrounder).