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-   -   Brainstorm - Open Discussion (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40322)

RenegadeFanboy 2010-02-14 13:04
Re: Brainstorm - Open Discussion
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 496841)
At the end this is simple: Brainstorm is a tool that helps us finding and discussing problems that matter to the community and their potential solutions. Then developers can look at the Brainstorm, help finding out the good useful solutions and eventually implement them. That's it for today.
I'm on board with this suggestion and target - the Brainstorm is a bit more structured way to raise problems then the forum, with the possibility (or main outcome) to lead to an answer/solution/action.

To me (sorry, PM-infected mind) it still comes down to the same old issue-action (problem-solution, question-answer) pair.

slender 2010-02-25 17:45
Re: Brainstorm - Open Discussion
 
I don't understand:
http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/sim_toolkit/
It says:
This brainstorm is a duplicate
And I say:
Then what?

Latest activities to brainstorm SIM toolkit doesn't make any sense to me? I click links but it goes to same page? Lots of activity but users mentioned there are nowhere on brainstorm suggestions. Many savings by same and different users What what?

Am I stupid or is something broken or half implemented?

Texrat 2010-02-25 17:59
Re: Brainstorm - Open Discussion
 
You're not stupid. Brainstorm needs some structural and process love. ;)

I was going to do a "simple" diagram of how I think the process should work here, but given the MeeGo development I am expanding that to include design recommendations. I can't say if any of it will be implemented here but it might make sense IMO to pilot MeeGo ideas here if nothing else. Bergie will also be involved and he is definitely the man. ;)

chrisp7 2010-03-02 22:09
Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
Im not sure of the point of Brainstorm - what apps have actually been created using it - VERY few. Nothing seems to get beyond the consideration stage, and if it does get to under development - what has come of it?

Brainstorm just seems like a talking shop to me. Some bloody great ideas but nothing seems to be done with them. Why is this the case, its such a pity - if some of these ideas could be implemented the N900 could be almighty.

Flandry 2010-03-02 22:13
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
I'm excited to see what you come up with. :)

slender 2010-03-02 22:13
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
Its main function is to suck noise :) Its playground for people. Sing songs and hold hands :) Find wheel again and again and oops again *grin*

chrisp7 2010-03-02 22:21
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 553124)
I'm excited to see what you come up with. :)
I thought Nokia were going to support/potentially create some of the popular suggestions? Surely thats the way to get the development started - development as it stands is at a complete standstill.

Flandry 2010-03-02 22:39
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
Let me find the post where Quim explains it... helped make sense of it to me.

Edit:
Here it is, at least a start:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=468869&postcount=8

It's a place for ideas to get shaken down and the preferences of the community be made known to facilitate future development. Bug tracker is to developers what brainstorm is for the product managers. But you are right in that what the final solutions actually are, who they come from, and how they come about, is not really defined in brainstorm.

So my first smart *** response is still really the most direct possible product of brainstorm: spark off a little light bulb in the head of someone capable of implementing a solution.

chrisp7 2010-03-02 22:51
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flandry (Post 553147)
Let me find the post where Quim explains it... helped make sense of it to me.

Edit:
Here it is, at least a start:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=468869&postcount=8

It's a place for ideas to get shaken down and the preferences of the community be made known to facilitate future development. Bug tracker is to developers what brainstorm is for the product managers. But you are right in that what the final solutions actually are, who they come from, and how they come about, is not really defined in brainstorm.

So my first smart *** response is still really the most direct possible product of brainstorm: light a fire under someone capable of solving a problem with the ability to do something about it.
Yeah, but it isnt working - its been a long time in operation and it simply isnt lighting fires. Thats my point. Im not blaming anyone per se, just trying to start a discussion.

Flandry 2010-03-02 22:54
Re: Brainstorm - just a talking shop.
 
So let's go back to the part where you come in then, shall we?

Anyway, this really all belongs in the community forum or brainstorm thread i linked to, and is not a new conversation.

Edit: it's the problem of too many talkers and not enough doers. That seems to be a universal problem, so i'm not sure how we're going to solve it. I would disagree it's not working at all, but perhaps you have some specific cases in mind since you brought it up.


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