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-   -   Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not. (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44615)

geohsia 2010-02-16 21:13
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EMAD (Post 530528)
I am thinking of sending this e-mail to Nokia...

What do you guys think???
That's quite the email, lots of passion. IMHO, its way too personal. This is a business / marketing decision and needs to be treated as such. Large corporations like Nokia don't respond to ultimatums. Regardless of what they do someone will be unhappy. I think what is ultimately more useful is articulating how a change to their current course could be to their benefit.

Personally I'd probably still buy a Meego-based product (in 2011 / 2012) even if the N900 didn't get it. I'm American but the iPhone and Android services are way too US-centric. I do a lot of work overseas.

For Nokia there are tons of advantages to not supporting an OS with no future, also, they would benefit from having the maemo 5 community automagically transition to Harmattan (easier said than done), which would give that community a boost and would benefit future products because of the strength of the community. A win-win in my opinion. The problem is its a lot of work, its short term pain for long term gain. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-)

russo_br 2010-02-16 21:25
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajko (Post 530582)
They are afraid if they say "no" to a MeeGo upgrade on the N900 it will hurt sales.
Not only future sales, but also upset current owners who just bought it...

schettj 2010-02-16 21:39
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EMAD (Post 530528)
I am thinking of sending this e-mail to Nokia...

What do you guys think???
Send it. Let us know what happens.

craftyguy 2010-02-16 21:43
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 530609)
That's quite the email, lots of passion. IMHO, its way too personal. This is a business / marketing decision and needs to be treated as such. Large corporations like Nokia don't respond to ultimatums. Regardless of what they do someone will be unhappy. I think what is ultimately more useful is articulating how a change to their current course could be to their benefit.

Personally I'd probably still buy a Meego-based product (in 2011 / 2012) even if the N900 didn't get it. I'm American but the iPhone and Android services are way too US-centric. I do a lot of work overseas.

For Nokia there are tons of advantages to not supporting an OS with no future, also, they would benefit from having the maemo 5 community automagically transition to Harmattan (easier said than done), which would give that community a boost and would benefit future products because of the strength of the community. A win-win in my opinion. The problem is its a lot of work, its short term pain for long term gain. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-)
Actually, a 'personal' statement coming from a customer makes the situation a business concern for the company. Ignore too many 'personal' statements would upset customers, which very well could lead to lost sales (in a worst-case, but totally plausible senario)

gerbick 2010-02-16 21:53
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 529931)
I'm not a fan of Apple but, to be fair, they've made the new OS updates available for all iPhones so far (though you may need to pay for it).
Wrong. No OS upgrade for the iPhone ever cost anybody. It's the updates on the iPod Touch that cost people.

Dario1970 2010-02-16 22:03
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EMAD (Post 530528)
I am thinking of sending this e-mail to Nokia...

What do you guys think???

________________

What's going to happen to the N900 with the new Meego?

I have been putting in a good word everywhere about my new phone and will be extremely upset if it is outdated within a year with the coming of Meego.

I understand that Meego is an evolution of Maemo. But if you knew that Meego was coming, why did you sell the N900 with Maemo 5? Why didn't you wait? Why did you sell to us a product (maemo) which was gonna be the last of its kind and give us hopes that there will be so much software, support AND BRAND RECOGNITION for it?

I want Meego on my phone. I want my Maemo to be called Meego because I did not buy spend $800 Canadian to buy a phone that was going to be outdated within a few months.

If that is the case, consider this my last purchase from Nokia ever!

I know it is too early to determine what you will do with the N900... but be assured that I am the only one in my community of friends and co-workers that owns a Nokia N900. I have constantly been telling off people with Blackberries and iPhones that Nokia product is better.

But if Nokia doesn't support the wish of its N900 customers, then be assured that I will spread my horrible experience with Nokia until the day I die!
+1

Just because an OS outdated means few developers. Less software. Less future.

benny1967 2010-02-16 22:19
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ewan (Post 530447)
Has it occurred to anyone that they might simply not know yet?
That's the impression they'd like to give, but i'm not buying it. They must have plans and goals by now.

My interpretation is that by the time this becomes relevant (=Harmattan device is launched), they got their "it's Qt that matters, not the operating system"-dogma into the minds of both developers and consumers. Then they can safely announce that no, the N900 will not run Harmattan, but is largely compatible through Qt 4.6.... And seriously, if 90% of the applications developed for Harmattan will run on my Qt 4.6 powered N900, if the only difference between Fremantle and Harmattan is a new UI outside these applications (desktop, task switching)... Why would I need Harmattan? It may have some features we don't have on the N900 (MMS?), but by the time they launch Harmattan I expect most of these gaps to be filled by 3rd party applications.

They cannot safely communicate all of this now, because people don't think "the Qt way" yet. They don't because they haven't seen anything real so far, only promises.

YoDude 2010-02-16 22:25
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
So... I guess there never will be a step 5 for Maemo.

1, 2, 3, 4, then back to MeeGo 1 again?

It will be interesting to see how some will spin this after the "The N900 was only meant to be step 4 out of 5" argument some were fond of spouting. :D

EMAD 2010-02-16 22:38
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by schettj (Post 530687)
Send it. Let us know what happens.
SENT! Will post reply on here.

etuoyo 2010-02-16 22:46
Re: Nokia promises N900 will get MeeGo! Or perhaps not.
 
Also neither apt-get clean nor apt-get autoremove worked on my device so couldn't create root space that way. Was getting a could not open lock file message. Does anyone know why?


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