Re: N900 graveyard
 

... I think you need to step back a little then. I do not know you, many users, especially new ones, do not know you. Thus what I am reading is that your high post count sanctifies you as a minor deity on this forum and thus your opinions and attitudes are more valid than mine for example with my puny...what is it 20 posts or so...

Also, I found your previous post offensive (EDIT: this one ). Name calling does not belong in a public forum not dedicated to name calling and inventive use of former medical terms and language regardless of "who started it first".

V.

Re: N900 graveyard
 

Search how that dude has approached me in the past. I've endured his taunts more than once, first time I've directly responded.

Re: N900 graveyard
 

This is true.. unfortunately I don't think it's changing, is it?

I suppose it could get better once the first proper (with UI) MeeGo comes out right? Supposed to be this month...

Re: N900 graveyard
 

No, it's not changing. But this is where I get confused... perhaps Ofono was positioned (once in the past) to replace the closed phone bit(s) with an open version?

Hadn't thought of that. I dunno... it's my position to learn from you guys!

Re: N900 graveyard
 

Following you around? No chance that it's because we're both in the same forum? Or that I find your constant mantra about what the N900 can't do (like MMS), despite evidence to the contrary (fMMS) to be annoying? Especially since you don't own one, and can't be told by people that do that functionality exists and works well? No, no... I must be a stalker...

That's a valid concern. I was reluctant to jump on board too, having been burned by a similar device in the past year. (The Neo FreeRunner, maybe you heard of it?) Happily you were not posting much when I read the forums here, or I may have written the N900 off.

But as a counter point, that doesn't excuse you for continuing to say things that are NOT true about the N900 when people who own the device repeatedly correct you.

Also as a counter point, when I arrived as a "noob" six months ago there were 5 thousand topics with tons of posts. I didn't read all the posts from the 700 series forum, sorry. I figured anything pre-800 was pretty much so far past that it wasn't going to have a huge impact on the 900. And since you've failed to mention even once in any past discussion (you know, the one's I've been "following you around" in) that you ever owned such a product, it's pretty easy to see why I wouldn't know that.

I can... You see, I have access to one too, being someone that bought one. I use it every day, as my primary phone, and love it.

Tell me, how would you feel if I told people they shouldn't buy a N770 because it's crap, and didn't even have wifi? How would you feel if I kept saying that, even after you'd proven that it has wifi? How would you feel if I kept "commiserating" with others saying equally false things about the N770, when I didn't even own one, and was basing it on some previous device Nokia sold, and "having access" to one?

Do you see how what you're doing could piss people off? Or make them want to challenge why you're even here? Look back at the last couple dozen posts you've made and tell me if you can find one that wasn't saying something negative about the N900. Can you do that?

Says the loud mouth... dissing a product he doesn't own. Your recent posts in 900-based threads, outnumber mine by far.

You have an ignore button too... I address whom I please, when I please. You don't get to dictate that. That said, understand, I have no qualm with you, unless you're saying things that are untrue.

I think the bigger issue here is that you think you're "superior" in some way for having been here longer. You're not. In fact, your jaded attitude is a major downer, and self-defeating if you really want to see the N900 take off. You have probably dissuaded more people from trying the N900 with your negative (and in at least one case false) statements about it than I have with my "attitude".

Let that sink in for a bit...

I'm here because I enjoy this device, and am actively helping improve it. I'm here to challenge people saying things that aren't true about the N900, and to learn more about it myself. Again, why are you here? Not much is happening with the N770 in this forum any more. Most of your posts have been about the N900, and have been negative. Why?

Re: N900 graveyard
 

Name one thing I've said that was not true about the N900. I'll wait for the quote.

Re: N900 graveyard
 

I have hundreds of apps listing on my app manger. There are maybe 3 that repeat functionality, most are unique functions. I don't call that a lack of apps. The OP (who's hit-and-run and is now gone, leaving you to defend him) probably never made it past the OVI store. Probably never added any of the repositories to his device, or even opened the app manager to see what was in it.

Clearly he never found fMMS, which is widely discussed in this forum, and is clearly an app he wanted. Instead he probably read a post like yours saying the phone doesn't support MMS, and got frustrated and left. Thanks chucking that potential user out the door, btw.

See, this is an example of where owning a phone would help. You could check this out for yourself. Sure, we don't have 50 versions of the fart app like Apple. But what's there is quite useful.

Quite a nit-pick... The iPhone bits are also closed, and didn't have MMS for over a year after it's launch. Don't you own an iPhone? Hypocrite much?

fMMS is so tightly integrated now that it's nearly indistinguishable from the phones native software. Again, if you owned one, you'd know that, but you refuse to believe it when 3 other owners tell you as much. Continue to live in ignorance if you must, but that won't stop me from correcting you.

There's a database format for the message sub-system, an open API, which fMMS has be shifting toward. In fact, the phone bits around messaging are well documented, and a rich API exists to talk to it. It may not be 100% open source, but it is well documented. It beats the hell out of reverse-engineering how Apple does it and trying to integrate into their non-documented API.

Want a 100% open-source phone? I have a FreeRunner, completely open source. It even uses ofono! I'll sell it to you for cheep, but then I'm sure you wouldn't want to wait for the platform to develop.

That's your gripe, not the ops. And again, plenty of devices don't support the mac because they are a closed platform. Funny how you don't want your phones stack to be closed source, but you're fine with your whole phone and your computer being totally closed. Again, I call hypocrite.

Did you not read where I said, admittedly we don't have 8000 apps? I take no fault in the op having an issue. I also take no offense that he sold his phone to get something else. I take offense to him coming here, after selling it, to do nothing but gripe about something he'd already given up on, and claiming it couldn't do things that it clearly does.

Nobody here is saying the device is perfect. Nobody is saying the op didn't have legitimate issues. What we are saying is if you're going to show up and whine about something, do it while you still own the phone so the community has a chance to help you out, and show you things you've missed. Seeing as how he didn't find fMMS, an app he clearly wanted, maybe the other apps he's moaning about were also present, but he just didn't find them. Wouldn't it have been nice to have him come here asking about them first, and not just doing a drive-by after ditching the phone? But then I'm sure some "authority" told him the phone doesn't do MMS...


Found it, it's right next to the one for the iPhone. Oh, wait, you don't have access to that either, because it's a commercial product. Tell me, where is your app for JoikuSpot? I have that on my phone... Oh, wait, Apple denies you from having anything tethering unless you jailbreak and void your warranty. So sad...

Really, we could do this all night.... It's pointless.

Clearly you're so full of yourself that you think your old tired opinions mean something. Base your thoughts on my phone from 2010 on your knowledge of an ancient tablet from 2005, be my guest. But know this: If you lie (not nit-pick) about the N900, or bad mouth it, or mis-represent it, I'll be there to call you out. Even if you ignore me, I'll have my post, and everyone else will see it. This isn't just to you, but to any troll I see saying false things about the phone on this forum. (Or "nit-picking" about if the phone does it or an app does it...)

I'm tired of seeing people like you bad mouth something you know nothing about, and say things that while "technically" true, in spirit is a lie. I'm not going to stand around and let the negative Nancies post away without something following them up to call them out. You don't like that? Too bad. I'm not going to tell you to leave, but I'm not going to go away either, or change how I operate here.

So, you go right on ahead spouting your negativity about the N900, based on nothing. Consider yourself the second coming if you like. I don't care. But you can't make me go away, try as you may. Even your "seniority" here doesn't grant you that power. And in case it's not clear from the posts of myself and others here, because you're acting like a spoiled hypocritical child, you've lost what little respect that seniority may have once garnered you.

Now scamper off an play with your iFart app...:D

Re: N900 graveyard
 

It's ok. I have Fring for my N810. Works great too. It'll be out for the N900 soon enough, btw. Just not today yet though.

Toodles. It was nice playing along with you. I've added you to my ignore list. You might want to do the same.

Re: N900 graveyard
 

No... I find that rather pointless as well. I love to play sports, but am no disillusion enough to think that me screaming from my couch at a television will have any effect on how an overpaid athlete decides to hit/kick/throw a ball. Professional sports is a pacifier for those that are too unfit to play actual sports with those around them.

I tend to look at things in my life that I can change, either through changing myself, or causing the change I want. Those things I can not change, I re-examine to see if I can effect them at all, and if not, I learn to accept them.

Though I'm not sure what my view on professional sports has to do with this conversation? :o

Re: N900 graveyard
 

Was fun.... come back any time. And no, thanks, I generally don't ignore people. I like to see what people say to/about me, even if it's negative. Not that I at all consider you an enemy (I don't, at worst you're an adversary), but I live by the motto "Keep your friends close, and you enemies closer." It's always good to know what those who think negatively of you are up to. :cool: