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Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth

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Originally Posted by twigleaf1976 (Post 824232)

Nokia might want to think about that as they continue to sit in their dark little places, silently playing with their many many phones and poor OS'. People, the ones with cash, the customers, want to spend money on cool stuff with apps, phone deals and hardware that works all the time. If Android works and it takes the heat away from a company who can then just make good hardware. Well then you get profit and your shareholders are happy, there is no customer back lash and you don't look like a failing mess of a company.

If that is a short term gain and long term loss then I think it is working for them. Maybe it is time for Nokia to pick one of the thigns they suck at, hardware or software and concentrate on that, because the N8 is pushed back for a better UI experience (youtube shows it to be sh*t) and the N900 sank. Not many of their high end phones are coming out the door with "Great" attached.

Android is not panacea to software or hardware that "works all the time." People tolerate bugs and glitches differently on different products and Nokia is at the moment kind of easy target. No misfortune is too small for making it good enough reason for all out lashing and endless rants, even if at the same time nobody gives a damn if problems of similar magnitude occur in other OS' and devices. To me it seems really stupid, but well then... who said human beings are rational beings?

Fact is that no hardware manufacturer can run development of Android to better suit their needs. It is stictly Google's turf and being run for Google's interests only. It may sell well for the moment, but it may also fail miserably in future and should such thing happen, all manufacturers can do is to find some other OS to suit their needs. Also, more the manufacturers use Android with little or no customizations to differentiate from each other, more fierce the competition between them will go. In the end it will lead to eroding margins, just as Mr. Vanjoki said. Of course, if Nokia adopted Android (and lost all possibilities for any uniqueness and independence) it might sell very well in the short run. They know how to make good hardware. Problem is that such move would completely disintegrate and undermine their software strategy which is all for Qt, Symbian and MeeGo. Of course Symbian might eventually get phased out at some point if there is absolutely no need for it, but I have my doubts about sense of such move.

As for N8, I would judge it only after final products actually shipped, got reviewed and of course, when I have actually tried it myself. So far hands on tests have been somewhat positive. For me it doesn't seem too bad for middle class smartphone. The flagship will be running MeeGo, which at the moment is hard to judge because of it's phase of development and lack of information. But we'll see...

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

exactly. I just read a review from iPhone 4 from finnish tech magazine. Rotation works really poorly and small glitches appear from time to time. I was amazed, how could it be even when "it just works"?

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

Tear apart the competition whilst never fixing your own problems. Not unique to Americans.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

@ossi: what glitches and poor rotation performance?

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 824353)

what glitches and poor rotation performance?

If you slowly rotate it, it can get a bit glitchy - all iOS devices show this behavior.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

Can you give me the search keywords? I did google search on 'iphone 4 rotation glitch' and 'glitchy' but didn't pull any articles about that at all.

I've also done a quick test, slowly rotating the iphone back n forth in safari but didn't see any unpredicted behaviors.

TIA.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

what then is maemo at this point? pissing into the wind?

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth

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Originally Posted by lma (Post 824206)

Unless they screw something up badly, MeeGo compliance means everyone else's MeeGo devices are potential Ovi customers too.

And you are surprised by this? We have to start talking Diablo strategy again. ;)

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People really want OVI as their app store?

No. Nokia wants OVI as an official app store for MeeGo devices.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like pissing in your pants for warmth

Now he's saying that the reason he resigned is because they didn't make him ceo. I cannot be alone in thinking that Nokia is much better off without this clown.

Re: Anssi Vanjoki says using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth

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Originally Posted by lma (Post 824206)

Yeah, if wishes were fishes... no one is going to nearly monopolise the market like MS managed, not Google, not Apple and not Nokia either.

I know they won't succeed. And if anything, their desire to use the platform to push Google services will be the thing that gets them displaced.

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Unless they screw something up badly, MeeGo compliance means everyone else's MeeGo devices are potential Ovi customers too.

Depends entirely on how locked down the devices are, and if Nokia feels a need to reach out to non-Nokia buyers.

Of course, all I want is a device I can enable the community repos on, disable any and all DRM, and get a better device than what I have now.