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BigBadGuber! 2011-07-30 15:59

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
[QUOTE=Creamy Goodness;1060970]https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=int-180957

"fixed in harmattan"

email renders html way faster than modest on n900 ever did.

read this guy's posts, he's obviously working on it...
http://forum.meego.com/search.php?searchid=292899[/QUOTE

The second link doesnt take me anywhere. The first link is interesting. It says fixed in Harmattan, yet the last response from Andreas refers to the following that doesnt seem very encouraging:

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Default Re: Finally the Nokia N9
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Can you tell us if we have full Exchange support for email and calendar/contacts synch. ie the main issue with N900 was no support for provisioning, which stopped me and many others from using it as their main device.

Thanks in advance.
Provisioning is not fully supported, some weird setting related to HW are not available(disable camera, BT, ...), if your server demands that it will not work, more common requirements are supported(passwords, time to lock...).
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What should i make out of this????

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-30 16:11

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
My posts on provisioning are simple. I, as many people, DO mix business and pleasure and I need to be connected to my work email constantly. I am raising this issue now, so that people who want to buy this device dont get fooled by promises, but need to know that as far as I am concerned, WE STILL DONT KNOW IF FULL PROVISIONING WILL BE PROVIDED. I would like NOKIA to come out and say that corporate security will be supported. Anyways, I will wait for few months and see what feedback people give on this device as their main day to day device and connectivity to their work. I like N900, but I am not repeating my mistake of purchasing a $700 device without reading few months worth of reviews. My post here is to warn people to be wary of this issue when considering N9. It will save NOKIA many returns.

sjgadsby 2011-07-30 16:22

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
BigBadGuber!, please see: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb123484.aspx

Exchange allows mail admins to choose a range of options to require, or not, for all connecting devices. Even Windows Phone 7 only supports a subset of the available choices.

If you can find out the list of provisioning features your Exchange server demands of connecting devices, someone may be able to determine whether you'd be able to connect using (the N950's old version of) Harmattan. Otherwise, all we're able to say is: Yes, provisioning is supported in Harmattan. No, we don't know if it will work with your Exchange server.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-30 16:35

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1061189)
BigBadGuber!, please see: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb123484.aspx

Exchange allows mail admins to choose a range of options to require, or not, for all connecting devices. Even Windows Phone 7 only supports a subset of the available choices.

If you can find out the list of provisioning features your Exchange server demands of connecting devices, someone may be able to determine whether you'd be able to connect using (the N950's old version of) Harmattan. Otherwise, all we're able to say is: Yes, provisioning is supported in Harmattan. No, we don't know if it will work with your Exchange server.

Thanks for your comment. It has nothing to do with my server as E71, E51, iphone and blackberry connect flawlessly. N900 didnt, E6 didnt. Go figure......it has to be NOKIA software. Will wait and see waht feedbacks are.

gerbick 2011-07-30 17:08

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1061195)
Thanks for your comment. It has nothing to do with my server as E71, E51, iphone and blackberry connect flawlessly. N900 didnt, E6 didnt. Go figure......it has to be NOKIA software. Will wait and see waht feedbacks are.

In my environment, out of the box the HD7S did not work. Luckily I'm the admin.

gerbick 2011-07-30 17:21

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 1061146)
Please do consider that BigBadGuber has previously received replies to this very question from various N950 users. He has been assured provisioning support exists. People have reported success using it with Exchange. Someone even provided BigBadGuber with a link to the best information available on which provisioning options are supported and not.

He's followed up not with probing questions on specific details or scenarios, but just the same general question again and again: "Will the N9 support provisioning?" I can't speak for others, but I didn't see the need to answer him again this time.

Be that as it may - I don't follow him around - it wasn't the overall question about provisioning that was really the bother.

It was the really messed up attitude, the response to my charge that these people are (once again) testing in seriously limited environments and that most real-world needs will be overlooked like quite a few instances on the N900.

And if we're not able to ask, or better yet if some of them aren't willing to answer any simple questions - I've asked thrice about the status of Flash, not once answered here (got the answer from elsewhere) - then that goes hand in hand with the aforesaid sentiment of "we're not here to test for you guys".

I stand by my decision to wholly dislike that person's attitude and tonality. Don't want to answer anything, nobody is making you.

abbra 2011-07-30 17:32

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1061195)
Thanks for your comment. It has nothing to do with my server as E71, E51, iphone and blackberry connect flawlessly. N900 didnt, E6 didnt. Go figure......it has to be NOKIA software. Will wait and see waht feedbacks are.

I can repeat, probably this will help you to understand: there are commonly used features that Exchange admins force to disable on mobiles and there are less commonly used ones.

N900 didn't work with anything that required things beyond device lock (i.e. force mandatory device lock if Exchange account for this server is configured). If Exchange admin would set 'wipe out remote device' setting, N900 will report that it does not support it during provisioning step and Exchange server will deny provisioning. This was probably case #1 of all "N900 does not work with my Exchange server" issues.

Now, N9 does support remote wipe feature. If you Exchange server requires this feature, N9 will report that it supports remote wipe. If your Exchange server will try to enforce photo camera lock (so that it is impossible to take pictures), N9 will report that it does not support such feature and your Exchange server will deny provisioning.

So you really need to know what exactly your Exchange server enforces. Referencing other phones is irrelevant but I suspect that all you will encounter is remote wipe requirement and for that one the answer is "Yes, N9 will work with that server".

Creamy Goodness 2011-07-30 18:00

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1061180)
The second link doesnt take me anywhere.

sorry i didn't know you can't link to search results for some reason.
i was trying to link to "search for all posts by user vdvsx, view as posts"
I think one of his posts mentioned what is NOT supported - disable camera and some other useless sounding features.

Creamy Goodness 2011-07-30 19:20

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1061213)
I stand by my decision to wholly dislike that person's attitude and tonality. Don't want to answer anything, nobody is making you.

Do you only see what you want to see? You want to be the victim, I guess. I refuse to play along by subscribing to your twisted interpretation of my words.
Attitude? Tonality? I think you're reading so deep between the lines you can't even see the words I've written any more.
I'd love to know how you think a developer is a tester, and why it's on the 250 open source developers shoulders to somehow solve all the potential bugs and problems with the N9. Nokia has their own employees paid to do that, but nooooooooo, it's all my fault now. Mainly because I pointed out the flaws in your logic. Whatever...

shadowjk 2011-07-30 21:29

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
I'm under the impression that the bugtracker given to the people with N950s has no categories whatsoever to report bugs with the phone software or give feedback on features. Only bugs directly related to the developer APIs.

I guess the designers got fed up with people telling them their design sucks, and the engineers got fed up listening to feedback they can't do anything about when they have to make it exactly as the designers say.


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