maemo.org - Talk - What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

These guys are too resourceful for their own good. Especially this qwerty kid. I suggest we quarantine 'em all on some remote island with no internet access.

:D

I would have thought that you would want them to be able to post bug reports back to Nokia.

Texrat

2008-05-13 13:44

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

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Originally Posted by dont (Post 181053)

I would have thought that you would want them to be able to post bug reports back to Nokia.

I would have thought the teasing in the post was obvious.

: /

zerojay

2008-05-13 13:53

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 181059)

I would have thought the teasing in the post was obvious.

: /

This whole thing just makes me want my new tablet so much more.. waiting on Nokia to resend me my Canadian device code. So is Flash really that much better this time around?

Bundyo

2008-05-13 14:10

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Yes, flash is faster, but please don't hype up yourself too much - it won't do miracles. :)

qwerty12

2008-05-13 15:35

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Originally Posted by anidel (Post 181052)

We should call Querty12 "Neo1983" :)

Try 1992 :P :)

Well, thanks to a certain someone who I thanked (guess who :P), I got a tipoff about the update. This now puts my initfs work to m00t shame as Nokia fixed it :P :D

SSU works brilliantly and I got my Google back ^-^

Still haven't fixed BME infos in FTD >.>

anidel

2008-05-13 15:41

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181090)

Try 1992 :P :)

oops sorry, I was trying to be younger myself :-P

Quote:

Well, thanks to a certain someone who I thanked (guess who :P), I got a tipoff about the update. This now puts my initfs work to m00t shame as Nokia fixed it :P :D

SSU works brilliantly and I got my Google back ^-^

Still haven't fixed BME infos in FTD >.>

One step after the other.. and Diablo will be out :P

qwerty12

2008-05-13 16:15

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Well, A2DP may not be officially supported by Nokia and support isn't included but lardman gave me a push so I went and installed johnx's hack for a2dp.

Bluez is much better. I've only got 3 0.5 second skips.

Load applet says CPU is at 2 bars, top output:

Quote:

<qwerty12> Load average 1.27 1.04 0.50
<qwerty12> bluetoothd = 0.1%
<qwerty12> mplayer = 45%

Lardman has pointed out something, my A2DP headset does MP3 decoding on the headset too so other headsets will/may get higher CPU.

Quote:

<lardman> qwerty12: so ~25% cpu assuming the sbc encoder is running in mplayer
<lardman> ~25% for the sbc encoder that is

dont	2008-05-13 16:28

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 181059)

I would have thought the teasing in the post was obvious.

: /

I would also have thought the teasing in the post was obvious.

: /

Benson

2008-05-13 16:55

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 181031)

Seconded and I couldn't have said this better. You got the scoop and you had fun. I don't want to play the devil advocate's role ;) but now please keep the software for yourselves. Not (only) because the license says A, B, C but (specially) because what you have is not final software and in the hands of non-expert users it might create evil confusion and trouble.

Wait just a bit and you will have a proper Diablo release. We can't tell exactly when but surely after an amount of time you can afford. Why not contributing new http://maemo.org/downloads/product/O...numptyphysics/ levels in the meantime? :)

Thanks!

Thanks; I do appreciate the sporting response, and will refrain.

We upon whom the great burden of the non-final software has fallen so suddenly shall bear this secret as well as we are able. To release it to the world would create evil confusion and trouble, as has not been seen from the days of Pandora.

Order of the Red Signatures, mark well! The fate of the world is in your hands.

Gourmand

2008-05-13 18:06

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Guys you are touching Diablo.. Please try connect it to Windows XP SP2 using RNDIS over USB. It doesn't work - I saw thread about it here, then I tried myself and failed too. I see IP 192.168.2.15 on N810 for NET-over-USB, but WinXP tries connect then "Connection failed. Please let us know if is this propblem was fixed in 4.1.

fnordianslip

2008-05-13 18:25

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Have you guys got openssl installed on diablo yet? I wonder if it might be a version that's affected by the debian distro's patches, as reported on slashdot. The chinook openssl package seems to be from an earlier version (0.97e-4) than that (0.9.8c-1) affected by the bug (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux....announce/1614), but I'm not entirely sure, as I haven't seen the source. fnord.

Bundyo

2008-05-13 18:28

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Yes, Diablo's libssl and libcrypto are versioned 0.9.8

Benson

2008-05-13 18:30

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Well, from the article:

Quote:

A detector for known weak key material will be published at:

<http://security.debian.org/project/e...kd/dowkd.pl.gz>
<http://security.debian.org/project/e...owkd.pl.gz.asc> (OpenPGP signature)

So it should be easy enough to tell? (On the premise that Chinook's might have had the fix applied, even if it's from an older upstream...)

fnordianslip

2008-05-13 18:43

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Well yes, the update manager on Ubuntu also installed ssh-vulnkey which showed the current host keys were compromised and also attempted to describe the integrity some of the public keys in authorized_keys2 too.

I've got a couple of headless debian boxes that I can only get into via ssh, so this is all a bit of a PITA. Creating a new bunch of keys on the NSLU2 is gonna be a drag. At least the chinook n800 can rest easy ;-)

Texrat

2008-05-13 19:34

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

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Originally Posted by dont (Post 181113)

I would also have thought the teasing in the post was obvious.

: /

I would have thought my thick-headed senility was obvious.

: S

sjgadsby

2008-05-13 19:39

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 181204)

I would have thought my thick-headed senility was obvious.

http://www.ratbehavior.org/RatYears.htm

BOFH	2008-05-13 21:44

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Fecking Hell...,

How did I miss this, that what I get for not checking in every 5 mins :/
I loved been on the cutting edge on the last "unofficial" update {OS2008 for N810 running on N800 H/W}

qwerty12

2008-05-13 22:05

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Qwerty12 is a gangster. I didn't use ANY hacking tools but info what nokia have given themselves, to get into passworded diablo repo. I WILL NOT RELEASE THE PASSWORD OUT OF RESPECT FOR QUIM.

My sig is true now.

Look at modification dates (reflects todays update) . I have my proof on the nokia supplied file that i used.

I've notified quim where the file comes from.

gnuite

2008-05-13 22:54

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Quick question: assuming you've already "upgraded" to Diablo (like querty12), do the online updates still work despite the password? Or is querty12 doomed to run last week's version of Diablo until the official version is released? (Well, not querty12, per se, since he now knows the username/password, but what about those who don't?)

I'd definitely be interested in dabbling with Diablo, but only if I had access to the weekly updates.

qwerty12

2008-05-13 22:56

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Updates still work fine, lets just say i put 2 + 2 together to make the above...

gnuite

2008-05-13 22:58

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181279)

Updates still work fine, lets just say i put 2 + 2 together to make the above...

I can confirm that the username/password combination of 2/2 does not work. :)

So are you saying that updates work even if you don't use the username/password?

sjgadsby

2008-05-13 23:03

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181253)

1st non-nokia guy to RUN DIABLO

What exactly are you implying about rcadden?

qwerty12

2008-05-13 23:06

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gnuite, yes.

sjgadsby, didn't know about him. my apolgies.

gnuite

2008-05-13 23:06

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Hey guys, you know the authentication is being done via HTTP, not HTTPS, so all we have to do is crack querty12's machine and monitor his TCP traffic. Sounds like quert12 is one of those newbie hackers, so he probably hasn't secured his machine, yet. ;-)

P.S. This post is a joke. I do not condone those forms of "hacking" known as "cracking." I am a true hacker, i.e. a hacker of code - it's a hobby, and it's also my profession. "Cracking," on the other hand, is illegal and dumb - don't do it, kids.

Mara	2008-05-13 23:08

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SSU updates do still work. I updated my N800 today to latest Diablo.

gnuite

2008-05-13 23:08

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Originally Posted by Mara (Post 181286)

SSU updates do still work. I updated my N800 today to latest Diablo.

Hm, that's interesting. So do the online updates not use the "updates" repository? Do they not use APT at all? Where do the updates come from, if not from the repository?

Or are we suggesting that the server somehow "knows" if the request is coming from APT as opposed to a web browser? I thought an earlier post suggested that using WGET with the appropriate USER-AGENT had no effect?

qwerty12

2008-05-13 23:14

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All this "hacking" was just reading one public file that can be found in maemo site on public place. Gnuite, same here. My modified initfs was due me hacking it :)

Gnuite, believe me same place. But I will say this everyone, even w/out knowing pwd, you are missing an extremely obvious fact..

useragent is used but there is more to it than just ua.

Mara	2008-05-13 23:15

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Originally Posted by gnuite (Post 181287)

I don't know but it seems like the web server detects the client who is accessing it... As long as it works I don't care... :D

Aisu	2008-05-13 23:29

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Hm... Odd. There was an update in my application manager "OS 2008 feature upgrade (Unlocked)"

I installed it. Lo' and behold, my tablet would not boot for the life of me. I had wondered whether it was the patched kernel I was using for rotation support. No.

Hooked it up to my laptop, then told the flasher to boot it with that same kernel. It boots? I didn't think Diablo had a new (or even changed) kernel? I didn't believe it would change it at all through that update. Anyone know why it would stop booting after that?

qwerty12

2008-05-13 23:33

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It was the ssu update, i flashed earlier today. it flashes new kernel too.

Diablo has newer kernel and xserver. I posted bout kernel before. If you still have the diablo xserver deb, reinstall that but rotation will be gone. or get the deb from diablo updates if you know the password. or just install chinook rotation kerneltimeand chinook rotation xserver.

Aisu	2008-05-13 23:37

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

Hm, alright. I believe I'll just flash my rotation-supporting kernel, then. Xserver is working fine. I can't believe~ they would use that as username and password ;)

qwerty12

2008-05-13 23:40

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

you need jott's xserver with the rotation kernel - they go together.

you figured it out too? ;)

sjgadsby

2008-05-14 00:12

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181284)

sjgadsby, didn't know about him. my apolgies.

Ah, no big deal. I was just teasing you...and rcadden. I'm by no means attempting to diminish the scale of your accomplishment. You've achieved something quite impressive. Stand proud.

Texrat

2008-05-14 01:36

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 181283)

What exactly are you implying about rcadden?

You hadn't heard?

Gourmand

2008-05-14 04:37

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?

anybody noticed my question about LAN-over-USB with WinXP?
OS2006, OS2007 worked fine, but OS2008 does not
what about "OS2008.1"?

nobody one having XP installed 4.1 on tablet?

Bundyo

2008-05-14 05:07

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No, nobody uses RNDIS with it :)

qwerty12

2008-05-14 05:37

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181303)

you figured it out too? ;)

Quote:

...

I guess not. Seems like I'm the only one who knows the password. ;)
All I'm gonna say that there is a big clue in this thread. I've even posted the link on IRC a few days before I realised this (not for this purpose but for something totally unrelated) about the folder in which this file exists.

maba	2008-05-14 10:01

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 181375)

Well, I figured it out too... ;)

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