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thommy 2009-12-14 14:04

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 427134)
Yes. I've got positive feedback from OS X users.
Remember to remove any existent pairing between the device and the Mac, and create the pairing using BlueMaemo, choosing "Establish connection".
This is required because BlueMaemo introduces a new profile and the Mac OS keeps a file with the supported profiles of each known devices, that file have to be update in order to accept the connection.

Thanks for the prompt response!
I've done exactly that -- deleted all pairings on both the n900 and the macbook. I fire up BlueMaemo and choose "Establish connection" and it seemingly properly pairs the devices. From the mac, I can see the additional Bluez HID mouse & keyboard profile and at first it says both paired AND connected. On the n900, BlueMaemo remains on the initial screen with the three options: Wait for connection, Reconnect, Establish Connection. After a minute or so, the mac connection breaks but the pairing remains and BlueMaemo remains on that same initial screen. Any ideas?

VDVsx 2009-12-14 14:18

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 427141)
Thanks for the prompt response!
I've done exactly that -- deleted all pairings on both the n900 and the macbook. I fire up BlueMaemo and choose "Establish connection" and it seemingly properly pairs the devices. From the mac, I can see the additional Bluez HID mouse & keyboard profile and at first it says both paired AND connected. On the n900, BlueMaemo remains on the initial screen with the three options: Wait for connection, Reconnect, Establish Connection. After a minute or so, the mac connection breaks but the pairing remains and BlueMaemo remains on that same initial screen. Any ideas?

Actually there's another bug that probably is affecting you, that's a very silly bug related to encoding, make sure your Mac BT name doesn't have any special char, like: ' eg. thommy's macbook.

VDVsx 2009-12-14 14:24

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 427157)
Actually there's another bug that probably is affecting you, that's a very silly bug related to encoding, make sure your Mac BT name doesn't have any special char, like: ' eg. thommy's macbook.

That bug can even prevent BlueMaemo from starting, anyway will be fixed in the next version.

thommy 2009-12-14 14:38

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 427157)
Actually there's another bug that probably is affecting you, that's a very silly bug related to encoding, make sure your Mac BT name doesn't have any special char, like: ' eg. thommy's macbook.

That was it! Thanks for the help and thanks for the app!

VDVsx 2009-12-14 14:46

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 427185)
That was it! Thanks for the help and thanks for the app!

Great. The app is in alpha stage, so feel free to suggest/point any thing that you don't like or can be improved.

thommy 2009-12-16 11:15

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 427199)
Great. The app is in alpha stage, so feel free to suggest/point any thing that you don't like or can be improved.

It's great and very useful so far! One feature that I'd love to see is auto-connect on start. And I'm sure you're already working on it, but the hardware keyboard would be the preferred method of input in many circmstances. Keep up the good work!

VDVsx 2009-12-17 15:33

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 430273)
It's great and very useful so far! One feature that I'd love to see is auto-connect on start. And I'm sure you're already working on it, but the hardware keyboard would be the preferred method of input in many circmstances. Keep up the good work!

That's already a feature (maemo4 version has it), but since the "settings" screen is not finished, the button is not there :p.

Thanks for the feedback.

mtran66 2009-12-21 02:58

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
hi, I've been using bluemaemo on windows 7 with my n900. The mouse and virtual keyboard work great, however, the hardware keyboard does not seem to work. I don't see any settings regarding this. Is this currently a bug?

chase15 2009-12-21 03:22

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
how can i download this on my n900? i tried to look in the downloads... can't find it..

VDVsx 2009-12-21 12:16

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtran66 (Post 435980)
hi, I've been using bluemaemo on windows 7 with my n900. The mouse and virtual keyboard work great, however, the hardware keyboard does not seem to work. I don't see any settings regarding this. Is this currently a bug?

Yeah, it's a bug that was introduce in maemo5, Nokia changed the way that the window manager handles the focus, that's the primary reason for the application is still in the -devel repository.
That bug is out of my control since it need to be fixed in the EFL libraries :(.

VDVsx 2009-12-21 12:18

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 435994)
how can i download this on my n900? i tried to look in the downloads... can't find it..

There's a alpha version available in the Extras-devel repository.

Note that the software in this repository is unstable and can introduce errors in your system, for more info read this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...extras+warning

ewoudpons 2009-12-23 00:31

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Indeed,

The first time I wasn't able to make a connection from my N900, then I did an attempt by 'wait for conncection' which was a succes as the 'HID' option now appeared (windows xp). From that point I was able to connect in any manner.

The physical keyboard doesn't work as it immediately opens the adres book or phone (letters or numbers respectively).

Otherwise - even without the physical keyboard - still quite usable. I use it to control my second monitor from the living room, which functions as a tv in a dual screen lay out.

qole 2009-12-23 00:41

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
This is the keyboard input focus problem. See this thread for details.

VDVsx 2009-12-23 00:42

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewoudpons (Post 438406)
Indeed,

The first time I wasn't able to make a connection from my N900, then I did an attempt by 'wait for conncection' which was a succes as the 'HID' option now appeared (windows xp). From that point I was able to connect in any manner.

You need to remove any previous pairings between the N900 and your pc, and pair again using BlueMaemo, because windows keeps a record of the phone available services and the HID service is not there by default.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewoudpons (Post 438406)
The physical keyboard doesn't work as it immediately opens the adres book or phone (letters or numbers respectively).

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=410

Thanks for the feedback.

qole 2009-12-23 00:50

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
VDVsx, do you think you could do a little hack as in the thread I linked to, until the libraries are fixed?

VDVsx 2009-12-23 00:55

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 438424)
VDVsx, do you think you could do a little hack as in the thread I linked to, until the libraries are fixed?

Will try. Thanks.

redi 2009-12-30 12:05

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Using a Belking Bluetooth Dongle I followed the instructions and after like 10 remoev -> pair again attempts I finally got the BlueMaemo app to connect to the PC (Windows 7). Most of the time it just says "could not connect, damn." When I finally get the connection established I tried using the mouse, and after few seconds it just disconnects me (and cursor never moves either).

Now the problem was the HID device drivers not installing, which I now got sorted. When I go into the properties of the Bluetooth device, and Services tab I see Nokia Sync ML, Bluetooth Modem etc and depending on the moons position from 1 to 4 "Drivers for keyboard, mouse, etc (HID)". However, when I tick any of those and hit apply, it reloads the services tab and it's still unticked. If I choose them all it says "parameter error" and reloads as empty again.

I'll fiddle more, but I'm quite unsure what might be the actual bottleneck here, any suggestions?

VDVsx 2009-12-30 18:49

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redi (Post 446506)
Using a Belking Bluetooth Dongle I followed the instructions and after like 10 remoev -> pair again attempts I finally got the BlueMaemo app to connect to the PC (Windows 7). Most of the time it just says "could not connect, damn." When I finally get the connection established I tried using the mouse, and after few seconds it just disconnects me (and cursor never moves either).

Now the problem was the HID device drivers not installing, which I now got sorted. When I go into the properties of the Bluetooth device, and Services tab I see Nokia Sync ML, Bluetooth Modem etc and depending on the moons position from 1 to 4 "Drivers for keyboard, mouse, etc (HID)". However, when I tick any of those and hit apply, it reloads the services tab and it's still unticked. If I choose them all it says "parameter error" and reloads as empty again.

I'll fiddle more, but I'm quite unsure what might be the actual bottleneck here, any suggestions?

Humm, never used Win 7, but let's try something.
There are two connection methods, the first one the connection is requested by your PC, in the second one is the N900 that requests the connection. Note that these methods are only needed when connecting for the first time, after that you can use the reconnect option.

1 - PC Requests the connection:

* Remove any existent pairings between your N900 and your computer (in both devices).
* Start BlueMaemo and select "Wait for connection".
* In your PC go to the bluetooth preferences and choose ‘Add a new device’(or something similar).
* Pair the devices.

2 - N900 requests the connection:

* Remove any existent pairings between your N900 and your computer (in both devices).
* Start BlueMaemo and select "Establish connection".
* Pair the devices.

Please let me know the result of these instructions.

VDVsx 2009-12-30 19:34

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
On related news, I've finally started a wiki page[1] to gather these instructions, any contribution is very welcome, specially instructions for MAC OSX and Vista :)

[1] - http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluemaemo

MrThunderfield 2009-12-30 23:30

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
First of all, thanks for the app! It looks fantastic and was one of the reasons I got the N900.

I cannot, however, seem to get it working with my x64 Win7 install. I've tried removing previous connections, tried both wait for connection and establish connection.

Both times it SEEMS to work, Win7 pairs with bluemaemo and begins to install 6 drivers. It installs 3, including the HID one, but it can't seem to find the three others. After the failed driver installs, the N900 get's slapped with a yellow warning triangle in the devices window on the pc. Bluemaemo often thinks it has successfully connected to the pc and shows me the screen with mouse, keyboard media remote etc. None of them work, and after a few seconds of trying it says that it lost connection to the pc.

I know it's alpha, so this will probably work when the final is released. Is there anything I might be doing wrong, or is there anything I can still try?

But hey, keep up the good work on this seemingly great app! ^_^

mothmanex 2009-12-31 00:51

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Hello, first of all, I want to thank you for doing this great application. This application is a must have!!

@ MrThunderfield : I had the same problem, I did the following things to make it work on my pc (Windows 7 professional x64). Remove the pairing (on devices and printers). Then, open BlueMaemo on your n900. Click on "Wait for connection". After that, on your pc, find the n900, and pair with it. I had the same problem, some drivers weren't installed, but all the funtions of maemoblue still work on my cellphone.

I found a bug, I installed the one in extras-devel. When I use the "Media control" and I change the settings (actions of the buttons), I need to restart the application so all the buttons take effect of the new settings. Please keep up the good work, and if you accept donations, please tell me you website to be able to support you.

VDVsx 2009-12-31 01:13

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mothmanex (Post 447432)
Hello, first of all, I want to thank you for doing this great application. This application is a must have!!

@ MrThunderfield : I had the same problem, I did the following things to make it work on my pc (Windows 7 professional x64). Remove the pairing (on devices and printers). Then, open BlueMaemo on your n900. Click on "Wait for connection". After that, on your pc, find the n900, and pair with it. I had the same problem, some drivers weren't installed, but all the funtions of maemoblue still work on my cellphone.

Thanks for testing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mothmanex (Post 447432)
I found a bug, I installed the one in extras-devel. When I use the "Media control" and I change the settings (actions of the buttons), I need to restart the application so all the buttons take effect of the new settings. Please keep up the good work, and if you accept donations, please tell me you website to be able to support you.

Humm, strange, well you can donate me a bug report :) : https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=BlueMaemo

stobbsc 2009-12-31 11:11

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I can't seem to connect to my pc.
Do I need to install anything extra on my pc?

VDVsx 2009-12-31 11:53

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 447765)
I can't seem to connect to my pc.
Do I need to install anything extra on my pc?

Which OS are you using ?
Please describe the steps that you are doing to connect.

stobbsc 2009-12-31 12:36

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
1 - Plug my USD BT Stick into my PC.
2 - Turn BT on , on my N900
3 - Load BlueMaemo
4 - Click "Establish Connection" on my N900
5 - Select My PC from the list of BT devices
6 - When prompted if I want to connect I press yes.
7 - I then see "Trying to Connect"
8 - After a few seconds I get this message "unable to connect to ... damn"

VDVsx 2009-12-31 12:43

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 447847)
1 - Plug my USD BT Stick into my PC.
2 - Turn BT on , on my N900
3 - Load BlueMaemo
4 - Click "Establish Connection" on my N900
5 - Select My PC from the list of BT devices
6 - When prompted if I want to connect I press yes.
7 - I then see "Trying to Connect"
8 - After a few seconds I get this message "unable to connect to ... damn"

Step 2 is not needed, but you missed step 0 :) :

* Remove any existent pairings between your N900 and your computer (in both devices).

I still don't know which are your OS.

Instructions for some OSs here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluemaemo

stobbsc 2009-12-31 12:50

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
ok I removed all pairings from PC and N900.
Turned off N900 bt before loading BlueMaemo.
I'm using Windows 7
I then get asked to pair.
I finish pairing then wait for the pc to finish install drivers.
I think click yes to connect on my N900
I get the same messages as above :-(

nux 2009-12-31 13:44

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
installed bluemaemo but it got a veir error.
I do not have any paired deviced by the way.
And my device name is N900 so no spaces even.

~ $ bluemaemo
False
Running BlueZ 4
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 1306, in <module>
gui = GUI( options, args )
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 758, in __init__
self.check_bt_status()
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 869, in check_bt_status
self.paired_devices[str(client_name)] = str(client_addr)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128)

VDVsx 2009-12-31 13:52

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nux (Post 447896)
installed bluemaemo but it got a veir error.
I do not have any paired deviced by the way.
And my device name is N900 so no spaces even.

~ $ bluemaemo
False
Running BlueZ 4
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 1306, in <module>
gui = GUI( options, args )
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 758, in __init__
self.check_bt_status()
File "/opt/bluemaemo/bluemaemo", line 869, in check_bt_status
self.paired_devices[str(client_name)] = str(client_addr)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128)

That's a known bug :(.
Worksforme: Remove any apostrophe (') or other special character from your PC name and start again. This bug is already fixed and the fix will be released in the next alpha version.

stobbsc 2009-12-31 13:53

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
ok this is awesome. just got it working this was typed in using bluemaemo
thanks for all the help

stobbsc 2009-12-31 13:57

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
does anyone know what the media remote controls?
Is this for the media on my pc?
If so I can't get it working with VLC or media centre :-(

VDVsx 2009-12-31 13:57

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 447905)
ok this is awesome. just got it working this was typed in using bluemaemo
thanks for all the help

Can you share what you did ? Seems that Win 7 users are having a lot of issues and I don't have a win 7 machine to test :(

VDVsx 2009-12-31 14:00

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 447913)
does anyone know what the media remote controls?
Is this for the media on my pc?
If so I can't get it working with VLC or media centre :-(

You can customize the keys sent by each button, there's a settings button in some profiles.

stobbsc 2009-12-31 14:02

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
cool this is what I did step by step.

1 - Remove ALL parings from PC and N900
2 - Open BlueMaemo
3 - click on wait for connection
4 - Open BT panel on my PC and search for device
5 - Select N900 start pair enter code etc.
6 - I think this is key step. WAIT for the PC to finish install all drivers.
7 - The N900 screen will suddenly chge to being connect to the PC via Maemo blue, and you get a nice screen with mouse keyboard etc

Hope this helps

nux 2009-12-31 14:03

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 447904)
That's a known bug :(.
Worksforme: Remove any apostrophe (') or other special character from your PC name and start again. This bug is already fixed and the fix will be released in the next alpha version.

Can not do that because I do not have any other bluetooth devices turned on even. And the phone does not see any devices if I try to add new bluetooth device.

VDVsx 2009-12-31 14:07

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nux (Post 447926)
Can not do that because I do not have any other bluetooth devices turned on even. And the phone does not see any devices if I try to add new bluetooth device.

Change the name of the BT PC (PC side), not in the N900.
In the N900 remove the pairing with any device that has these special characters.

I'm off to party, see you in 2010 :D

nux 2009-12-31 14:39

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 447928)
Change the name of the BT PC (PC side), not in the N900.
In the N900 remove the pairing with any device that has these special characters.

I'm off to party, see you in 2010 :D

Have a nice party.

As I already told I do not have any computer here only PS3 and that is turned off. So can not change any name :)
And I do not have any paired device, so can not figure out what is the problem and why is bluemaemo not starting.

mothmanex 2009-12-31 19:09

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
How to change your PC's name (Windows 7)
1.- Click on "Start"
2.- Click on "Control Panel"
3.- Change the view to "Small icons" or "big icons"
4.- Click on "System"
5.- On "Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings", click on "change settings" (on the right).
6.- On the new window, click on the button "Change"
7.- Change your PC's name to something plain, for example, from H'llo to Hllo.

On that is done, pair your device.

0.- Turn on your n900 bluetooth (if used before with your pc).
1.- On Windows, Click on the "start" button.
2.- Click on "Devices and Printers".
3.- Unpair your n900, by selecting it, right clicking on it, and selecting "Remove device".
4.- Turn off your n900 bluetooth.
5.- Open MaemoBlue on your n900
6.- Click on "Wait for connection".
7.- On your PC, On your notification area, right click on the bluetooth Icon, and select add device, there add your n900 (will be shown as a bluetooth keyboard).
8.- Pair with it. The PC will give you a code that you need to put in the n900, a screen will automatically open on your n900.
9.- Your PC will tell you that it was a success, and is already connected, but your n900 will remain in "Waiting for connection". Just wait a couple of minutes, and it will send you to the menu (Windows 7 is still installing drivers).
10.- Enjoy.

@ VDVsx : I have already reported the bug.

@ nux : What are you pairing your n900 with?

nux 2009-12-31 22:47

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mothmanex (Post 448250)
@ nux : What are you pairing your n900 with?

With PS3 and it does not matter is it turned on or not.
Bluemaemo does not even start up :)

But I will wait for the new version and try with that :cool:

MrThunderfield 2010-01-01 18:59

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I did all the steps detailed in the recent Win7 posts, but it just won't work. I changed my PC name to all-lowercase letters, removed all pre-existing connections, tried both wait for connection and establish connection but nothing.

In all cases it pairs with the pc, but after failing to find 3/6 drivers it won't let me use bluemaemo at all, not even through the three drivers it did install (bluetooth link of some kind, remote and HID drivers). Wait for connection doesn't do anything, it just says waiting for connection long after the drivers are done installing. Establish connection seems to work best, since it asks me to connect to my pc after the pairing. But after answering yes, it just says "failed... damn".

Hopefully I can get it working soon since it seems like a killer app!


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