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I set the alarm for 10 minutes ahead, closed the application. It successfully launched and triggered the alarm.
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you are on diablo n810 rigth? |
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Correct, n810, diablo.
Sometimes however the alarm doesn't sound on some days it seems. (this past Sunday for instance) |
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iam curious (if you have a time) make the same test 3 times in the row for be shurly the issue is just from me or if its probably general:rolleyes: |
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Alright. I'll give it a test a few times. From what I've noticed is some days it works, some days it doesn't. I'm assuming its going to work for me tonight, but we'll see. Stay tuned.
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If all work for you....Iam so lost why not me snif snif
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Sorry to break the news, but it worked 3 times in a row (4 if you include the original test)
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i need to see what jolouis think about MY issue (now its clear) probably another application on my tablet make a conflict issue... or i dont know |
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0.1.8 crashes for me while the display is flipping or just as it settles on the time. How do you launch from the terminal?
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Okay guys everyone just sit tight, 0.1.8 is NOT a good release and has some major issues to be resolved yet... although LABAUDIO, I have to review what you've said in detail to see what the heck is going on there...
I've re-written the whole way that alarm times are calculated as there were some fundamental problems related to time zones and DSTs that have been throwing everything off, but that I've now finally resolved (just doing some final testing myself). I'll also address the disappearing digits and try to get a more stable release out asap for proper testing. Thanks for all the feedback so far! |
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Alright, let's try this again... this one's better I promise!
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....1.9_armel.deb Again give it a whirl and see what comes up that I need to take care of... and LAB, I really appreciate all the feedback buddy, but what the heck is wrong with that N810 of yours?? lol try this 1.9 and see, it should run a test as soon as it opens to see if the current time lines up with any of the alarms, and execute the alarm if it does... so if that doesn't work either, I'm running out of ideas to try and work around the problem here... |
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The file says 1.9 but the application manager calls it 1.8.
When you open it it says 1.9 however. |
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Small Bug in 1.9:
- the month name has an encoding problem, März is now wrong (German) Investigating alarm and flipping now... Update: - Alarm works, with clock open and closed (tested once each) - looks like the clock update in charging state works now PS: the encoding problem isn't that problematic, tomorrow is April, without Umlauts :-) |
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for shure you can be prood 'cause your application is very more improve now(i see in different .deb a lot good clean up and tweaking. And of course always devoued for help us wow and the must my issues solved! all of honnor for Flip Clock GUYS tx to qwerty12 ciroip and all others :cool: i followed attentivly the next step LED and custumzing/animating skin or whatever suppose to be more then that good one enough:D (Finaly...after one years...i can wake up by my 500 W Hi_fi via my tablet) TX |
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download pygame and gstreamer and latest 1.8 on n810 but flopcock no working---in apps but no opening -why is this
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yokop4: Please try to start it from Xterm and post the output here.
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no go in xterm .... wake me when it works
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no module named dbus--error
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Didge, I think that's an internal glitch in python as I did change which function I was using to get the Month name, so I'll tweak it back to how it was just to be safe. However, if the biggest problem that we now have with this release is that it's missing some umlauts I'm a very happy developer! I will fix the version numbering as well, that was just me trying to get a package out too late last night and not updating all of the version numbers properly. Any other feedback/testing is welcomed as I'm going to try cramming one more feature into this one and then pushing the updated release over to extras-devel again. Thanks all! |
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I have to correct my last post, the numbers hang again, when attached to the powersupply. :-(
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wow, the developing is moving fast: I love the neverimplementedbefore slide up and down animations and the mesmerizing night light tones (I remeber J suggested that many posts ago :) )
I don't dare to touch the code before jolouis don't think is ready: he keep adding features and fixes! |
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Didge, if you run the clock from x-term window and look at the output, do you ever see anything that say "on_battery" or "charging"? The code is setup so that if you have the charger attached it will keep updating the digits, but if you run on battery it does not update unless tablet is active. I'm going to add a "all night" option that makes the tablet stay in the "dimmed" mode while the clock is running (whether connected to charger or not), but that won't have anything to do with the updating as in that state it should update all the time anyways... Has anyone else run into the non-updating with charger attached thing?
I'm just trying to clean up all the bugs that people have reported and cram the last few features in... the animation thing wasn't intended to be there, but since I'd been working on it and had to use my updated code to fix the bugs I ended up finishing that up and releasing it as well rather than trying to keep it hidden ;-) Sounds like we're getting really close to a good full release candidate though, so once that's done then Ciro can go nuts with things and we'll start the process over again to get the next version going! |
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I have a version of flipclock installed, but I've never really used it. Strangely, I woke up this morning and somehow flipclock and launched on its own. I'm fairly sure I did nothing to launch it between putting the tablet down at bedtime, and picking it up again this morning.
Anyway, glad to see that this project is humming along nicely. |
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lm2, it sounds like you had an alarm set that you forgot about; if you go into flipclock and check the alarms page, see if any of them are "green" (enabled); they will cause the app to automatically launch when they occur.
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I tested it again, looks like you need a third state. :-)
Charged! That explained why it worked in the morning (wasn't charged for a day) and stopped working later (when it has finished charging). |
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Okay guys, got everything fixed up again... so changes:
- Fixed charging/battery thing, that was some code that I borrowed from Kagu that was listening to the wrong signals; anyways, should be all resolved now - Added Dbus dependency to deb file to prevent errors like yukop4 ran into. - Added new "allNight" mode, where clock will keep the screen in "dim" mode all the time when running rather than letting it turn off completely. Now here's the catch... I've run out of space on the interface for the switch to turn that "allNight" feature on or off! Right now the feature is on by default, and you can manually update the config file.. but a switch or controller would be good right?? Or is this not really a big deal for people at the moment? Once I get this sorted out and we confirm there aren't any other issues I'll push to extras-devel for a full release candidate... |
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It is kind of scary. I set an alarm to test this out (after finally figuring out how to get to the alarm page). Set a time, turned alarm on, wait. The alarm sounds OK and I push the snooze button. But not wanting to hear the alarm again, I turn alarm off, and then exit the program. Sure enough, after 10 minuites, the app starts and the alarm sounds again. I checked the settings and alarm is still turned off. So I set the alarm time back to zeros and turned alarm on and then back off, then exit app. Same thing - app starts by itself and alarm goes off.
Next time I exit app and power down N810. Guess what - after 10 minutes, N810 powers up by itself, FlipClock starts and alarm goes off. Help:eek: |
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CDR, yea that's a short comming of the snooze option the way it's done right now... just wait for the clock to open up at the alarm, and press on the clock digits themselves (instead of the snooze bar at the bottom) to cancel the snooze completely.
I was thinking about making it clear the snooze if you exit the clock; does that make sense guys? I mean I could always add another button somewhere to "Cancel snooze", but then have to find somewhere on the interface for that and there's not a lot of space... the downside to the clear snooze when exit would be that if you hit snooze and happen to close the app for whatever reason, no more snooze... but I don't think that's a very likely scenario... Thoughts? |
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Okay, snooze by default is now handled internally; so if you exit the app after hitting snooze, it gets cancelled. (and for anyone who wants to keep snooze the old way, it's just a config setting in the flipclock.conf file, so easy to change either way). I think we're going to need a second page of config options at this rate lol... one for alarms, and one for actual clock settings... along with some instruction or help thing on the main screen to show people how to change screens...
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I was going to say 3rd screen for settings could be used. But, there is the windowed mode with the empty space in the upper left side. There is plenty of room there for settings like Insomniac mode(aka allNight), snooze settings, etc.
I think a button for instructions on the main page would be kind of annoying. It would take up valuable screen space for something that would only be needed once. An option could be an instruction video/slides with illustrations that demonstrate how to use the application. Then give the option to not show that video on start up. A button could be placed in one of the settings screen to relaunch that "manual" so the user can read up on all the features. |
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another new bie question:
When i click on Flipclock from the extras tab it says "Flipclock loading" then nothing happens. So how can i run this app from the X-term window? |
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jolouis: latest version (FlipClock_0.1.9_armel.deb) identifies itself as 0.1.8 internally!
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well, we can use the (now disabled) 'about' space for some help notes (but still people have to reach the alarm setting screen to find the about button :). Not that Im too worried about that, the average tablet user should be smarter than the average iphone user... but still there are some philosophical alarm choices that could be explained). I still have some brainfog about the window mode: I think it should at least show the actual time, the alarms list, the active alarm and the relative remaining time).
We still have a bit of space on the 'setting alarm page': a couple of buttons/slide/whatever could be easily put there: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/...2d9b0f28_m.jpg I would think a command line setting to disable the long flip animation at the begin to minimize the starting time and to set the night mode behaviour: seem like a bit too exotic settings to deserve a button on the already crawled interface |
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pohlmeyr: just open xterm and type "flipclock" (yup it's that easy!)
Then post up what the error message is that shows up... my bet is that there's a python module missing. qole: Aggg these version numbers are killing me! lol I'm pretty sure I've got them all sorted now, but I'll have to change them all again for the next release so just remind me if I miss it somewhere! Ciro: Well the biggest question I've heard from newbies is "how do you get to the alarm settings page"; once they figure that one out once, it's all good... so we can put the about screen back in just to say "Hey we're here, we built this awesome clock, enjoy!" but I don't think there's much point to it beyond that as the hardest thing is overcome by the time the user gets there. I still say that for the Window mode it should just be a slimmed down version of the normal clock view... but made to fit in the window area; that way we can ditch the whole "Drag up to window mode" thing, and just rely on the hardware button to switch back and forth; makes the clock line up with the way almost all other apps on the tablets work. I like where you're going with the latest design for the setting alarm page... two thoughts from my side: 1) I know you love the mood stuff, but that's an awfully big "mood button" considering what little practical effect it has... i.e. most commonly used/practical things should be most important on the screen right? Just my thought... 2) The buttons layout still seems akward to me... I mean all the important stuff is there, but why is the Sound chooser up with the rest of the clock stuff, while the rest of the alarm related things is at the bottom? Keep in mind that sounds are per-alarm, so you can have a different sound for each alarm if you wanted, etc. I think the "insomnia" mode thing should have a button on the interface though, as it's a common enough thing (i.e. if we're going to keep the 12/24 switch, then the insomnia thing is just as relavent and probably more likely to be used on a regular basis. 12/24 is more of a one time personal preference thing). I'm not really a big fan of adding some command line controls/requiring settings beyond the app because inevitably people don't realize they're there or don't "get it"; anything that's a useful feature should be clear and easy to find for the user; my Dad shouldn't need to know how to use a command line to enjoy all the features of a clock ;o) Oh, and don't forget... there's always the option to change the amount of snooze time too... as if we didn't have enough things to cram onto that settings page (this is why I come back to the idea of "alarm settings page" and "clock settings page"). i.e. maybe if we toast the window mode as proposed, you could scroll down to alarms, or scroll up to clock settings? I think that would help clean things up and give us more space for future/other options...? Just my two cents, you're the uber designer guy tho! :o) (If you design it I'll handle the code side, no problemos) |
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Let's go fancy: the 1st time the clock is launched check for the config file: if the file is not there we can show the instruction on the screen
(or we can put a counter and show the instructions the 1st 5 times) something like this: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...1&d=1232566925 Yes the mood button is huge just because my ego (and to balance the spaces) but Is just temporary: its just a filler waiting for new buttons. I guess I can switch down the about and the sound dialog: I want both near each other because I plane to use the about button space for the ringer name and because the about button should play the alarm (so User can test if it works and the volume) + the about screen should show the alarm list with the relative associated mp3 (maybe then we should choose another name for that button). OT:Is the 1st april fish something international or is just an italian tradition? |
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yep you are right:
It says /usr/bin/flipclock: Line 2: python: not found So what needs to be installed from my end? |
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Hey Ciro, good idea with the showing the help first time if there's no config file... that way we only have to show it once and it doesn't take up any space with buttons or anything. Once you get an interface layout that you're happy with make up one of those awesome "play by play" howto screens to go with it! I think all the newbies to the app would really appreciate it!
Okay sounds like you've got some more plans for the interface than you were letting on to the other day ;-) Do you want me to finish the coding stuff I've been doing and let you loose at it for a while to rejig everything the way you envision, or do you want to send me the graphics and have me roll it in (don't know how comfortable you are with MY code now! lol) I'm good with doing either just let me know how you'd prefer to do it. What I will do since everyone seems to have gone quiet again (hopefully meaning no more big scary bugs that crash everything or do odd things) is try to get the latest build that I have here up into extras-devel so that more people can enjoy it while we do the rest of the tweaking/etc. pohlmeyr: That's pretty impressive, how did you manage to install the clock without it failing on the dependency for python?... Not sure what your initial install route was, but I'd recommend that you uninstall the one you have there now, make sure you have extras-devel repository enabled, and install the one from there; that will automatically bring in the dependencies and things. Then just update to the latest build by clicking on the garage page link. Or if you wait a little I'll try to get the latest build up into the extras-devel repo sometime today... |
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Found a problem today, but I'm not quite sure the cause. The alarm didn't go off this morning, so I set it again and watched the screen. When the time changes, the snooze button flashes on and then off, and then nothing happens. I tried it again, same thing. I then tried it again, but with some different songs, and it worked for 5 out of the 6 songs I tried. I'll have to test it a few more times to look for anything common among the ones that don't work.
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I had a strange thing in the morming too:
The alarm went off at 5h and 0515h. It was set to the last, so I don't know why it rang at 5h too! Since yesterday the little alarmclock is showing in the status bar. But when I click it, there aren't any alarms in the alarm-configuration-window. |
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