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lma 2010-05-13 05:10

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 655567)
It is python, so the package itself can be the sources (I haven't looked at it)

That doesn't help with re-packaging it, though one can produce a more compatible version with something like:

Code:

wget https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/4479/sliderotate-0.0.27.diablo.deb
mkdir -p tmpdir/DEBIAN
dpkg-deb -x sliderotate-0.0.27.diablo.deb tmpdir/
dpkg-deb -e sliderotate-0.0.27.diablo.deb tmpdir/DEBIAN/
perl -pi -e 's/xserver-xomap \(=/xserver-xomap \(>=/' tmpdir/DEBIAN/control
chmod 755 tmpdir/DEBIAN/postinst tmpdir/DEBIAN/postrm tmpdir/DEBIAN/prerm
dpkg-deb -b tmpdir/ sliderotate-0.0.27modified.diablo.deb

on a deb-based system and test the result (not attaching here since I can't find licencing information anywhere in the package). It still needs an xmodmap package, and someone should probably rip out the parts that install the older kernel & xserver.

lma 2010-05-13 05:13

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 655288)
been observing a slight distortion of the theme when i use screen rotation.

Interesting, which theme is that? Could you attach landscape & portrait screenshots showing the distortion?

tso 2010-05-13 05:22

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
funny, i tested it just now and it worked fine.

the theme is glasser, and the problem is the vertical bar where the running programs are listed. Could be that my attempt to correct by changing to a different theme and back again have made the issue go away.

xircon 2010-05-15 05:18

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Installed the SSU on my N810 and it went flawlessly.
Should this work as well on my N810 WiMAX edition?
I am afraid of messing up the WiMAX part.

Thanks

lma 2010-05-15 06:31

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xircon (Post 659239)
Should this work as well on my N810 WiMAX edition?

Unfortunately I don't have one of those and AFAIK you're the first to try so it's completely untested so far :-(

Since you have one, could you post the output of df? I'm particularly interested in how much space is available on the initfs partition.

Quote:

I am afraid of messing up the WiMAX part.
Understood. Please don't feel under any obligation to try it, but if you decide to do so see this post for how to roll back to the official version if anything goes wrong (and make sure you have a fresh backup of course).

giladmttw 2010-05-15 08:13

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Installed the community SSU on N800, SD boot. Works flawlessly.
Thanks to the developers !

heavyt 2010-05-15 13:31

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 659277)
Unfortunately I don't have one of those and AFAIK you're the first to try so it's completely untested so far :-(

Since you have one, could you post the output of df? I'm particularly interested in how much space is available on the initfs partition.



Understood. Please don't feel under any obligation to try it, but if you decide to do so see this post for how to roll back to the official version if anything goes wrong (and make sure you have a fresh backup of course).

O.K. I have a WiMAX unit with the community SSU, so far no problems with the wimax (Clearwire).
Code:

Nokia-N810-WiMAX-43-7:~# df
Filesystem          1k-blocks      Used Ava ilable Use% Mounted on
/dev/mtdblock4            4096      3472    624  85% /mnt/initfs
none                      512      144    368  28% /mnt/initfs/tmp
/dev/mtdblock4          255488    206628  48860  81% /
none                      512      144    368  28% /tmp
none                      1024        60    964  6% /dev
tmpfs                    1024        0  1024  0% /dev/shm
/dev/mmcblk1p1        3923968    617408  3 306560  16% /media/mmc1
/dev/mmcblk0p1        1922972    117892  1 805080  6% /media/mmc2
Nokia-N810-WiMAX-43-7:~#


jaccunio 2010-05-15 14:31

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Umm how do I install the ssu? Some info in the first post would be appreciated:)

cstryon 2010-05-15 16:41

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
it's been a while since my last report. Just wanted to let lma know, no desktop crashes.

gerbick 2010-05-15 16:48

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaccunio (Post 659638)
Umm how do I install the ssu? Some info in the first post would be appreciated:)

Quote:

To everyone else who is interested in testing:

1. Make sure you have not (perhaps unintentionally) removed the appropriate osso-software-version-rxXX package for your device, of if you have re-install it as SSU simply won't work without it.
2. Visit http://repository.maemo.org/communit...esting.install with the built-in browser (microb) and open it with the application manager when prompted. This will install the community-testing repository and an enabler package that loads its public key and sets up the package domain with a higher priority than the nokia-system one so that nokia-system packages can be updated.
3. Refresh the application manager (bottom right button) so it will see the packages in the community-updates domain and offer the update.
4. Install the update.
5. Report any issues here (for now, I'll be bugging Andre for a bugs.maemo.org product soon).
Here you go.

silvermountain 2010-05-15 17:19

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
a) After slowly reinstalling every app I found what I think caused the conflict with sliderotate for me - and it seems like slidelock was the guilty culprit (slidelock auto locks the screen when the keyboard is closed even if you have used the keyboard since it was opened).

After installing slidelock sliderotate stopped working. It took another reflash and re-install of sliderotate to get it to work again (I still can't get it to automatically go to portrait mode when keyboard is closed though..hmm..) - this was all without the SSU update. I later installed the SSU and the functionality that I had in sliderotate was untouched.

b) Would you PLEASE create a new thread for the SSU project with a subject that makes more sense and request it to be stickied here? Also that way with a thread creator that is active here things like the first post can be continously updated.

Thanks for the great job, will continue to see if I see anything odd in this SSU and am looking forward to the next where, I believe, we will all get cake!

xomm 2010-05-16 01:11

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 659797)
Here you go.

(Probably another in a long line of ignorant posts.)

I've searched for a bit, and there's no "stable" Community SSU (vs. community-testing)?

tso 2010-05-16 02:03

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
true, right now its still testing.

Saturn 2010-05-16 02:48

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
+1 for creating a new thread.

Also some pointers on what actions need to be taken if the osso-software-version-rx** has been removed would be really appreciated.

eg. taken from the wiki:
Quote:

If the update doesn't show up for you at all, you may have accidentally (or intentionally) uninstalled osso-software-version-rx*4, which is required to update. You can get it back by simply running an apt-get install osso-software-version-rx34, for the N800, and an apt-get install osso-software-version-rx44, for the N810. Then updating your repository list in Application manager.

If the packages that caused osso-software-version-rx*4 to be removed are still installed, they will need to be removed completely (in the case of conflicting packages). Alternatively, for packages which are simply newer than those specified by osso-software-version-rx*4, you can install osso-software-version-rx*4-unlocked, which does not have strict dependencies.

luca 2010-05-16 08:59

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
I waited a while to report this since I don't use my tablet that much but I think (and I may be wrong) that the SSU reduces battery life.
I have to say that I never had great battery life with my n800: when it was new I got max. 2 hours of use, now, with a non OEM battery, I have around one hour.
With the SSU in place the battery life is around 40 minutes, with the same kind of activity (browsing with tear and reading rss with the integrated reader).
Top doesn't reveal any evident cpu hog.
Of course it could be that the battery has deteriorated further, but the drop in capacity happened right after installing the SSU.
I accept suggestions about good enough non nokia batteries on ebay ;)

maacruz 2010-05-16 10:10

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 660518)
I accept suggestions about good enough non nokia batteries on ebay ;)

Forget about ebay batteries. Buy a Mugen one (search the forum), they last at least as long as Nokia ones.
About the battery drain, make sure you didn't have metalayer-crawler disabled and now it is running.

cstryon 2010-05-16 15:03

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
how would one check for and enable/disable metalayer-crawler?

gerbick 2010-05-16 15:52

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cstryon (Post 660911)
how would one check for and enable/disable metalayer-crawler?

Open up the terminal (X-Terminal) and then use the top command to see if metalayer-crawler is running.

If you wish to properly remove it and you have the ability to gain root (via rootsh, easyroot, et al) then type:

update-rc.d metalayer-crawler remove

and you will disable it. It means that you will have to manually load any/all media into your media player and you will not (now) get shared files on other shared drives. But you can manually add those... I just hate the fact that metalayer-crawler continuously polls those locations, thus the battery drain.

mcow 2010-05-16 17:41

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Regarding metalayer: I saw the earlier comment by you in this thread about that, and tried the command (as root) but saw it still running in top.
This post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=149492&postcount=2
suggests an additional command:
/etc/init.d/metalayer-crawler0 stop

Maybe issue the 'stop' before the 'remove' ?

This post indicates that perhaps metalayer isn't really such a big deal:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=183101&postcount=9

But this tool is probably better than a command line for controlling whether metalayer is running or not:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=21330

tso 2010-05-16 18:23

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
the tool in the last link have a bug where it do not set the correct priority when enabling services.

gerbick 2010-05-16 18:26

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcow (Post 661115)
Regarding metalayer: I saw the earlier comment by you in this thread about that, and tried the command (as root) but saw it still running in top.
This post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=149492&postcount=2
suggests an additional command:
/etc/init.d/metalayer-crawler0 stop

Maybe issue the 'stop' before the 'remove' ?

I'm removing it from being a boot item. Once you reboot - which I consistently leave out it will not start back up again.

About it not being a problem, I've seen way too many times where the CPU is pegged only by it.

jaccunio 2010-05-16 19:22

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
when i try to install the ssu, i got a message that lots of packages are missing, do i have to install them by hand or is there some tricky way to solve it?

luca 2010-05-16 19:53

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 660601)
About the battery drain, make sure you didn't have metalayer-crawler disabled and now it is running.

metalayer-crawler was the first thing I disabled when I got my tablet and I never ran it.
Thanks to tear and browser-switchboard I also got rid of browserd, good riddance.

luca 2010-05-16 19:54

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maacruz (Post 660601)
Forget about ebay batteries. Buy a Mugen one (search the forum), they last at least as long as Nokia ones.

Given that the original nokia battery lasted less than two hours and it was dead in a year and a half, that's not a really good endorsement :p

maacruz 2010-05-16 23:28

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 661320)
Given that the original nokia battery lasted less than two hours and it was dead in a year and a half, that's not a really good endorsement :p

It lasted about 5-7 hours for me, 2 on very heavy usage. Now it is dying, and I have bought a Mugen one, and it lasts the whole day.

xircon 2010-05-17 04:26

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xircon (Post 659239)
Installed the SSU on my N810 and it went flawlessly.
Should this work as well on my N810 WiMAX edition?
I am afraid of messing up the WiMAX part.

Thanks

Installed the SSU on my N810 WiMAX edition. No problems yet except with the install which I don't think was related to the WiMAX version but rather with something I was doing wrong. I couldn't get the .install package to download when I used the microb browser to go to the URL. I had to download it onto the windows computer then send it via bluetooth to the N810. Long way around but it works.

Mgamerz 2010-05-17 05:04

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 595925)
What's the current state of the art on this? I don't own such a headset so never paid much attention to the subject and obviously I can't test anything. The only relevant bug seems to be 667.



I'm not sure I understand what you mean, could you provide a screenshot with some explanation perhaps?

I don't know what I was writing when I wrote this but it must have involved some hallincinogens as this post made no sense.
I meant I noticed the modest update(s). The screen rotation is nice, but virtual keyboards don't work with it and menu items and the application menu's are terrible.
A2DP is supported by most phones these days. It gives wired quality headphones over bluetooth, and it's amazing if you have a good pair of BT headphones. Like me... or I used to until Motorola F'ed up my product replacement with the wrong item :@

Andre Klapper 2010-05-17 09:25

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
("diablo-community-updates" Extras product has been created in bugs.maemo.org.)

lma 2010-05-17 10:44

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaccunio (Post 659638)
Umm how do I install the ssu? Some info in the first post would be appreciated:)

Updated the wiki, feel free to add anything that I may have missed.

@Stskeeps: could you add this link to the first post?

Stskeeps 2010-05-17 10:47

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 662149)
Updated the wiki, feel free to add anything that I may have missed.

@Stskeeps: could you add this link to the first post?

Done! Hope text is okay.

lma 2010-05-17 11:01

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 660518)
I waited a while to report this since I don't use my tablet that much but I think (and I may be wrong) that the SSU reduces battery life.

That's the 3rd such report so far if I'm counting correctly :-(

Quote:

I have to say that I never had great battery life with my n800: when it was new I got max. 2 hours of use, now, with a non OEM battery, I have around one hour.
That sounds rather bad :-( I did get more than the advertised 3.5 hours for a long time while the battery was relatively new.

Quote:

Top doesn't reveal any evident cpu hog
What does htop (from the tools repo) show if you sort on the TIME+ column?

Quote:

Of course it could be that the battery has deteriorated further, but the drop in capacity happened right after installing the SSU.
Does the battery level drop gradually or is there a sudden drop to near-zero? The latter would indicate a worn-out battery.

I don't think any of the "userland" packages would have an effect on battery life, so if there is a problem it's probably on the kernel or X server. Do you feel like downgrading to the Nokia versions (kernel-diablo-flasher=2.6.21-200842maemo1 & xserver-xomap=1:1.3.99.0~git20070321-0osso20083801, note that this will uninstall osso-software-version so you'll have to re-install it manually after testing) and comparing battery life?

giladmttw 2010-05-17 11:12

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xircon (Post 661773)
I couldn't get the .install package to download when I used the microb browser to go to the URL. I had to download it onto the windows computer then send it via bluetooth to the N810. Long way around but it works.

.install files are not packages. When you click on such a file in microB, choose 'open', and the application manger will open and ask you if you wish to download and install the actual package.

xopher 2010-05-17 12:45

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
I had time to backup install some new things including the Community SSU. No problems at all, nice work! Thank you. If I wanted to request an applet to be made where is the best place for that? I would love to have a terminal applet that was a lot like Yellow Notes for quick tasks rather than keeping one open in the BG.

luca 2010-05-17 17:40

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 662169)
Does the battery level drop gradually or is there a sudden drop to near-zero? The latter would indicate a worn-out battery.

Yes that's probably it, it goes suddenly to "replace battery".

Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 662169)
I don't think any of the "userland" packages would have an effect on battery life, so if there is a problem it's probably on the kernel or X server. Do you feel like downgrading to the Nokia versions (kernel-diablo-flasher=2.6.21-200842maemo1 & xserver-xomap=1:1.3.99.0~git20070321-0osso20083801, note that this will uninstall osso-software-version so you'll have to re-install it manually after testing) and comparing battery life?

I'll see if I can try it

notnarb 2010-05-18 10:33

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 662169)
That's the 3rd such report so far if I'm counting correctly :-(

Haven't gotten around to installing the SSU since being kicked off of my SD-boot (which had the SSU installed), and as the 2nd battery complainer, I must say that the battery is again giving me the expected results . On my SD boot, after installing the SSU, I noticed my battery having some trouble lasting through the day with fairly light usage (for the first time in months, my battery had actually died). After what my n810 has been through today (quite a bit of browsing, and, oddly enough, some netbeans usage), I can say with some confidence that the battery is fine, so it must have been something else to have caused the battery drain (the SSU or telescope are the main suspects, but it could be a number of things).

Once I finally get my SD-boot back up and running, I'd be willing to run tests before and after installing the SSU on the internal flash to see if it has significant effects on idle-usage so we can finally settle this

gerbick 2010-05-18 14:13

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Ima, I'll be honest with you. After the SSU, the biggest drain for me was indeed the metalayer-crawler. I mean, it just pegged the CPU in a way that I couldn't recall it had ever done before. Even before non-SSU levels, it was draining the battery rather rapidly.

cstryon 2010-05-18 15:11

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
I haven't experienced any real difference in power drain. Though, metalayer-crawler was never running for me, even after I installed the SSU.

Fionn 2010-05-18 17:24

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
If anything I felt my battery life improved after installing the SSU.
Alas I don't have any metrics to prove this - just an impression that it seemed to last longer.

heavyt 2010-05-18 20:28

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
No indication of battey drain here.

giladmttw 2010-05-19 13:24

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
I am seeing this on dmesg:

cx3110x: WARNING prism_softmac_frame_tx_done() returned an empty frame.

I don't remember having this before. The connection itself is fine, there is no problem with browsing or with Transmission. Can someone please look into his dmesg with/without Transmission ?


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