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Come on, mak, you are not alone. For me its also the first Nokia and the first smartphone device. But, hey while it is a nice gadget my live does not depend on the release date of a mobile computer!
As a strong OpenSource supporter I learned the answer to the question "When is it ready?" - "When its done!"
Of course I also whould like to have an official delay announcement instead of watching spooky release dates passing someone have to enter in their online shopping system.
I'm waiting for a dual atom server mainboard that is not very present on German market now for over 3 weeks and this was for shorten the time till the N900 will arrive and having some fun in building a new data server. Now its seems I get both stuff at the same time ;-)

Kopf hoch!

Thorsten

P.S.
printus24: Lieferung Hersteller bedingt voraussichtlich in Kalenderwoche 3/2010
Hey, its calendar week 3/2010 and not quarter!

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+1 here - thats a great idea...

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link to official press release or it wasn't

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was there a official press release for october?

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whining about nokia marketing sucks is not going to bring the shipping date closer. and on top of that october is not gone yet.

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no?

yes?
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1337594

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What makes you say that?

The marketing guy just showed up making excuses for why he has no clue when this thing will launch!

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This is true for everything, not just open computer technology. Anyway, from these posts I gather that the final disk image to be burned into the phones is still not finalized. At some point in the future, somebody will assume the responsibility to send a file with the definitive image to the production facility.

Only at that point will the delivery time be somehow foreseeable. And that process (burning eproms and flash disks, last QC testing, packaging, dispatching to the central distribution center, and then onwards to smaller and smaller entities) will certainly take a handful of days.

The proof of openness that we could ask Nokia/Maemo would be for them to make public, not when Nokia has officially started delivery, but when Maemo has pressed the send button for the transfer of the definitive image.

(then, 30 seconds after that button is pressed a new bug will be found - but that's life)

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where in the world were you when nokia it self said it will be available in OCTOBER in selected market.
I know where you got that from nokiablog.

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nokia is limited liability company and those have stright guidelines for publishing information and correcting updated information asap?

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i really didn't know that press release that says end october.
i will think about it on 1 of nov

nokia germany today doesn't know anything about a later release of the device. But, i think the supporters get there information out of there own online shop.

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well neither did say anything about the 12th october and all nokia said was it will be available in october.

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Please, give people some respect.

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amen......

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I figured something like this happened. The reality of product development is that users never do what you expect.

I think the problem that's developing here (people getting frustrated, endlessly checking with support staff in retailers) is happening because of a lack information and a lack of an obvious source of information. I've owned several Nokia phones and I've always had a problem actually buying one on release - typically the announcement is made and the device becomes available seemingly randomly in different markets.

One of the reasons people are really interested in the N900/Maemo is the openness of the platform and I think this gives a hint that people want more and more information about what's going on. That has to feed through into the marketing and logistics as well.

When delays happen there's always a risk that the buzz already created around the product will start to turn sour and the product launch will be a failure when it does happen. I think people would understand delays happen if they just knew about them and why - instead people focus on retailer due dates which are of course very inaccurate and arbitrary. Then they get angry when the retailer date changes suddenly.

Something like a twitter feed would be great - just something to say you're pushing out development a couple of weeks to respond to user feedback.

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I think you missed what he was saying, be patient.
Nokia will release an official statement once the device is shipping.

Not that this isn't very frustrating, clearly the device is not ready yet.
Once the firmware reaches "1.0 PR" it is it will be released, not before.
So looks like they are not going to release until they are happy enough with the firmware.

I would be quite happy with pre-release firmware, but I am used to this kind of release - I bet there are a lot of people out there who would scream loudly if the firmware isn't up to scratch, esp. given the reviews from Eldar etc.

I hope I can have a peak at it at the London Nokia shop

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I'm not sure how many of you have pre-ordered devices/software in the past, but my experience every time has been that release dates are always missed, and by a huge amount! It would not surprise me if December rolls around before i see my n900. The fact that i got sucked into it once again actually thinking it would ship "on time" according to various unreliable sources is no fault but mine.

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Spanish nokia online says( to my email) end october.
Expansys online shop, spanish page, says from now on 8 days(yesterday says from now on 9 days)
Expansys Finland 8 days.
Expansys USA, only for pre-order.

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Thanks for posting, it's finally good to here from someone official on the actual project.

From a business standpoint though, sometimes instead of just pushing the release date back, and back, and back it's better to just flat out and say "This is how much time we need, and here's the expected date you'll get it." We all want this awesome device, and we understand sometimes hiccups happen, but we'd be more understanding if Nokia just gave us a definitive date.


Sometimes saying you need more time than you actually need, in-case something else pops up along the road you didn't expect is better than saying nothing at all.

It's better to have stated you need more time and not need it, than to need it and not have stated it.

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Lol great post. Hear hear. :)

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In reference to your questions on the expected shipment date of the Nokia N900, let me tell you the latest information from Nokia:

The Nokia N900 is a great example of what we and the open source community have been able to achieve with Maemo software. We are working closely with open source developers and for example, at the Maemo Summit in October, we loaned 300 pre-production units to get more feedback from the community. This feedback is extremely important to us and as such we also want to provide the best user experience with the Nokia N900.

We expect it to start shipping during November 2009.

Peter Schneider
Head of Maemo Marketing
Nokia Corporation

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who said it would be october?

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"During" is not very reassuring... it can mean anything, even "last week of november"... :(

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You got it :) They'll want to get the thing out before December though so unless a showstopper issue appears I'd say you could consider end of November as the latest.

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could also mean "we say november but we will release it december, maybe it could be 2010"
oh man

one single date and i would be happy

also great for customers...the nokia shops will change the date on 31th of october...i bet

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I really hope it is November, if not I will probably loose my reservation because the credit card no. I gave expires on November!!

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NokiaUSA.com when we talked both via phone and live chat. First it was the beginning of Oct, then Mid, then end, and now Nov. At least now though we know Nov for sure.

@ sharper:

Nokia needs the phone to be released Q4 to boost profits and quarterly earnings, otherwise stockholders get the diapers in a crunch and start asking if Nokia is taking the correct direction. One quarter of profit loss is understandable but two, no matter what company you are the business plan is called into question.

@ Peter:

Thanks for giving us a release time frame. :rolleyes:

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yes, for sure!!!
i think duke nukem forever will be released earlier

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I will keep my preorder, although I'm not very happy about the fact, that the release date was changed 3 times by now. 1st, 12th, 30st october and now "during" november.

i can understand that several users cancelled their preorders...

The next time i wont preorder anymore...

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Thank you Peter for replying and giving us some form of closure

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I asked them about it and here's their answer:

"Ja, wir erwarten den Wareneingang in 8Tagen und ja es handelt sich um die englische Variante mit QWERTY Tastatur."

expansys.at will have it in stock within 8 days, with the english QWERTY layout.

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Does that make the release date week44 in Sweden impossible? Because i just got off the phone with with them and they seem to be more then positive that its coming week44 (end of october).
And if i remember it correctly, the phone isn't supposed to have the same release date on the selective markets thats its going to be released in.

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So now STOP everyone quoting any shop or store about any in stock dates. None of them will have it in stock in 2, 8 or 12 days...

Now close this thread or i will go insane...

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let's wait for the answer of zicos question

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Peter knows more than Nokia Sweden...

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16 NOV for uk boys and girls http://www.product-reviews.net/2009/...k-to-november/

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than he could answer the question

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He doesnt have to, because he already said it will be released during november, ... ANY other speculation is completely worthless.

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http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=186949

nov 2nd according to them .

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Two delays, Nokia fails.