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Hossie 2010-02-26 12:24

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9584910008

Here they said it is under "approval" - meaning waiting for the Ovi-Paid-Store apps? Maybe the app is ready now?

Dave999 2010-02-26 12:33

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
what is coming first.

http://www.softsailor.com/news/18587...okia-n900.html

shadowjk 2010-02-26 14:09

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QT4.5 -> QT4.6 is not a total rewrite.

spanner 2010-02-26 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 547475)

As far as I can tell, this article is just a lazy cut 'n' paste of the electricpig article from January where they confuse the Maemo platform with N900. More hearsay and Chineese whispers.

Sorry, I'd love to believe it but I just don't think it's happening.

joesphle 2010-02-26 14:29

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very interesting topid ..keep up to date !

AVee 2010-02-26 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 547463)
http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9584910008

Here they said it is under "approval" - meaning waiting for the Ovi-Paid-Store apps? Maybe the app is ready now?

I don't really get that, Sygic seems to have all the infrastructure required to sell their software in place, the N900 isn't in any way like an iPhone where you are required to use the vendors app store. I can see how they want it to be in the Ovi store, but that doesn't exclude selling it on your own website does it? If it's really ready, I can't see what they are waiting for, it need like they need Nokia's approval.

Hossie 2010-02-26 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AVee (Post 547598)
I don't really get that, Sygic seems to have all the infrastructure required to sell their software in place, the N900 isn't in any way like an iPhone where you are required to use the vendors app store. I can see how they want it to be in the Ovi store, but that doesn't exclude selling it on your own website does it? If it's really ready, I can't see what they are waiting for, it need like they need Nokia's approval.

see: http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9345547200

NokiaRocks 2010-02-26 23:33

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3 months later and still not out ....
ridiculous....

Ronaldo 2010-02-27 12:18

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Well to be honest the only reason we are all waiting for this is because nokia maps is not turn by turn navigation.
i have used both on n9t and n97 and i have to sygic is good but not better then maps v3.1(which ever is lastest one) on n97.

Personally im going to wait for free nokia maps turn by turn then waste my money on some thats wasting my time by say coming soon for months...

Dave999 2010-02-27 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 548755)
Well to be honest the only reason we are all waiting for this is because nokia maps is not turn by turn navigation.
i have used both on n9t and n97 and i have to sygic is good but not better then maps v3.1(which ever is lastest one) on n97.

Personally im going to wait for free nokia maps turn by turn then waste my money on some thats wasting my time by say coming soon for months...

But there is no info about maps 3.x for maemo.

Ronaldo 2010-02-27 12:30

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i know n900 will get maps soon if not via next up date then it will be a standalone app upgrade i say month or so.

Dave999 2010-02-27 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 548776)
i know n900 will get maps soon if not via next up date then it will be a standalone app upgrade i say month or so.

And how do you know that?:confused:

source?

Ronaldo 2010-02-27 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 548782)
And how do you know that?:confused:

source?

listen dont be silly.

do you think nokia will not make turn by turn for n900?

Frappacino 2010-02-27 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 548785)
listen dont be silly.

do you think nokia will not make turn by turn for n900?

lol

like nokia wont give n900 meego?

Dave999 2010-02-27 12:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 548785)
listen dont be silly.

do you think nokia will not make turn by turn for n900?

maybe, maybe not. Im not sure and it could take a year, and im not even sure it will be available for n900. I believe it when they announce it.

not because u say so. sorry;)

nicola.mfb 2010-02-27 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 548789)
lol

like nokia wont give n900 meego?

Yes! it's a mobile computer not a phone :)
On every computer I had, I was able to upgrade the OS for years!

Uh! it maybe a phone, in this case you cannot exepct a lot, on most of my past phones I was not able to upgrade/change the firmware, but in that case it's a poor phone.

Mumble.... it may be that it is not a mobile computer ad not a phone? or the answer changes every time you point at its defects!

Just joking a bit :) (really I Love this device!)

regards

Niko

inidrog 2010-02-27 14:19

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Hi I have waited and waited ... coming soon.

1. Did anyone betatest this?

2. Same GPS hardware problems/a-gps-requirements as N900 with OVI Maps?

3. If no one can say they did test Sygic Mobile Maps for N900 before it eventually is available , are the potential buyers taking huge risks for top dollars? Pay top dollars to become beta tester?

4. I have a feeling the cost wil be about what you can see the charge for the Android versions. What do you think?

jer006 2010-02-27 16:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicola.mfb (Post 548814)
Yes! it's a mobile computer not a phone :)
On every computer I had, I was able to upgrade the OS for years!

Uh! it maybe a phone, in this case you cannot exepct a lot, on most of my past phones I was not able to upgrade/change the firmware, but in that case it's a poor phone.

Mumble.... it may be that it is not a mobile computer ad not a phone? or the answer changes every time you point at its defects!

Just joking a bit :) (really I Love this device!)

regards

Niko

OS is not a good comparison here - all PC's CPU (intel compatible anyway) have very similar instruction sets to make this easier - most newer chips are backward compatible also, this is not so for mobile chips I believe... Plus Nokia do not seem to separate the OS from the Hardware layers (device drivers), if they did this then it would probably make things easier across all devices (1 version of Symbian across all phones and then smaller device driver upgrades which are device dependent)

I certainly hope so Niko but if you look back at the 770 Internet tablet, when they made the n800 and n810 tablets they upgraded the hardware so the new OS (OS2007 and above) was not compatible with the 770 from a hardware/device driver standpoint. Nokia never ported OS2007 to the 770, it was a community driver effort which resulted in the OS2007 Hacker edition - a combination of OS2007 with the hardware layers from OS2006 I believe. This was awesome support from the community but there is no guarantee that the OS will be upgradable on the n900 either due to hardware limitations.

I also love my n900 and hope that the software continues to be upgradable with the latest OS versions.

At this point we bought the devices, we knew what we were buying and now Nokia do not have to do anything except our manufacturers warrany. The fact that they are doing as much as they are so far is great! However they have a lot to learn yet from Android and iPhone software upgrades and their app stores (on the n900 I have no idea how apps I bought from the app store will be upgraded for instance!)

I am looking forward to the Sygic maps application though as I badly want turn by turn but its getting a little annoying that we are almost in March and its still "Coming soon". The original date I got from Sygic was Jan 18th and that came and went... I understand the problem is now the OVI store which is very frustrating as they cannot sell paid content there!

I dont get the big deal, why dont they just release a trial version which has you log onto the web and buy a key for it, each phones IMEI is unique and you could easily tie the license to the IMEI allowing people to buy your product instead of the continual wait...

Come on Nokia please sort out the OVI store soon, either that or Sygic please come up with another way to purchase the app i.e. Dataviz and how they sold the docs to go - I got that soon after release for 1/2 price from their site and they simply supplied a license key to register the product!!!!

Gazwkdoon 2010-02-28 19:57

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Well I tried to hold out for this... unfortunately I needed a sat-nav and could wait no longer.
Sorry Sygic/Nokia you lost a customer/sale.

:(

Hossie 2010-03-01 11:44

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This could be announced at the cebit, at least sygic is there...

http://twitter.com/SygicOfficial/status/9817678407

NokiaRocks 2010-03-01 11:54

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Maybe..... lol
I already stopped hoping.

sophocha 2010-03-01 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 548785)
listen dont be silly.

do you think nokia will not make turn by turn for n900?

If they don`t, well, then it will be their demise!....big mistake if they don`t do it fast enough though....

alex-000 2010-03-02 17:46

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We are waiting for the "older" Sygic take a look here

http://www.sygic.com/aura/

It's impossibile!!!!!! 3 mounts and we havent'g got a turn-by-turn nav!!!!!!!! :mad:

Trancedancer 2010-03-02 17:49

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I was in touch with Sygic, and they haven't even replied to my question, why it takes such time, and when we can expect it to be released. Really bad, Sygic! :-(

NokiaRocks 2010-03-02 17:53

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That Sygic Aura looks sick.
Time to get a Iphone :P

LordJuanlo 2010-03-02 17:55

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Aura will be for Android, Symbian, iPhone, Windows and Linux, I hope this one includes Maemo too, this app looks far better than the "old" we haven't got yet

alex-000 2010-03-02 17:57

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I already stopped hoping, 04/01/2010 I will sell my N900 and i will buy an Iphone! I love linux but I am seriously disappointed

Hossie 2010-03-02 17:58

Re: Sygic announces world-wide turn-by-turn navigation for Maemo
 
As previously mentioned, I still assume that the troubles with the ovi store keeps them from publishing it.

Hossie 2010-03-02 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alex-000 (Post 552710)
I already stopped hoping, 04/01/2010 I will sell my N900 and i will buy an Iphone! I love linux but I am seriously disappointed

Sorry, but apples policy on apps is even one bit better?

alex-000 2010-03-02 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 552715)
Sorry, but apples policy on apps is even one bit better?

3 mounths, i've got a frontal camera but no software, i've got a gps but no turn by turn software. 3 mounths and Ovi Store has 20 applications? 30?

Hossie 2010-03-02 18:05

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Why is it so important that they are in the ovi store? Look at the apps in Extras, Testing and Devel. Also why is turn-by-turn so important? It's still a cell phone, not a car navigation kit. And when you look at apples restriction, like randomly removing apps, rejecting them (even google!) - how would this be ANY better? This is my number one reason not to buy an iphone.

inidrog 2010-03-02 18:09

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My only hope now is that the N900 eventually will be worth some mony as a collectors item in a few decades

alex-000 2010-03-02 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 552725)
Why is it so important that they are in the ovi store? Look at the apps in Extras, Testing and Devel. Also why is turn-by-turn so important? It's still a cell phone, not a car navigation kit. And when you look at apples restriction, like randomly removing apps, rejecting them (even google!) - how would this be ANY better? This is my number one reason not to buy an iphone.

I love Linux and I appreciate all the Developers work done . Ok great work done in Maemo Repo. I am angry with Nokia and its management policies.

Hossie 2010-03-02 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alex-000 (Post 552740)
I love Linux and I appreciate all the Developers work done . Ok great work done in Maemo Repo. I am angry with Nokia and its management policies.

So your reaction is to switch from bad to worse? Nice.

Hardknox 2010-03-02 18:26

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The new Nexus One shining on my desk... the old iPhone play music on my dock, and my N900 was my last phone from Nokia. I remember that time when I say all of my friends: iPhone have everything but need a Jailbreak. There is nothing after so many months of waiting. I hope that this good useless phone ever fall in love with someone else. I can see online auctions as people quickly sell these phones for half its value, and I am afraid that before you get Sygic a few months, also sold their copies

alex-000 2010-03-02 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 552756)
So your reaction is to switch from bad to worse? Nice.

150.000 applications, Cydia...i'm thinking about......I repeat I hate the behavior of Nokia

jcompagner 2010-03-02 18:26

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the biggest question for this thread is for me.. how come that there are so many users complaining about turn by turn, yes i also would like to have it, but i guess 95% of those users want to use it in their car right? Maybe 5% will use it when walking? Or do i see that wrong?

I ask this because of 95% uses it for car navigation. Why is it that there are so little request for a thing that you also have to use in your car? And thats voice dialing?? Very very weird..

If i have to choose: now voice dialing or voice navigation. I would choose for voice dialing. Why because that is what i would use daily, now i have to do all kind of dangerous stuff like searching for a contact and dial it with the phone in my hands going something between 120 and 160km/h.
Not to say that if i get caught doing that i will get a fine for about 170 euro....

Hossie 2010-03-02 18:27

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Yeah, half of that are like 3minute games.

€: Oh no, someone posted in between. :(
€: Ok, maybe back to the topic.

russo_br 2010-03-02 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossie (Post 552714)
As previously mentioned, I still assume that the troubles with the ovi store keeps them from publishing it.

You are right, it is a issue with paid content on Ovi Store. But it is ridiculous that a company like Nokia is taking months to fix something that should be ready from N900 launch, after all an application store is a source of incoming for both Nokia and developers like Sygic... They are all loosing money!!! In most company heads would be rolling due to this huge delay... be it Ovi or Maemo teams (or even both) fault!!

Customers just don't care what are the difficulties of getting the Ovi Store for Maemo ready for paid content, but Nokia should at least give some explanations why it is taking too long to solve a major problem like that... and compromise with a date to fix it!!

Hossie 2010-03-02 18:47

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You think giving out a date would make it better? What happens if it is not finished at that date? Look at all software (including maemo) - the minority is giving out fixed dates.


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