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asyik 2010-02-01 15:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
qole,

how to create shortcut for Easy Debian LXDE?

this threadtells me to copy .desktop files in user/home/Desktop but unfortunately i couldn't find the folder

qole 2010-02-01 15:54

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by delaroca (Post 504911)
Why don't you compile your own in Scratchbox? It builds with no problem whatsoever.

I feel like I am in over my head packaging and compiling stuff in Scratchbox... Can someone else submit a fuser package, perhaps one that names the real, alternate fuser app something different, like gnufuser or something?

rcs1000 2010-02-01 17:04

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
A little help request: how *exactly* do I make an LXDE session full screen?

asyik 2010-02-01 19:23

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asyik (Post 505236)
qole,

how to create shortcut for Easy Debian LXDE?

this thread tells me to copy .desktop files in user/home/Desktop but unfortunately i couldn't find the folder

solved

i just have to create a new 'Desktop' folder in /home/user/ and then copy the .desktop file needed.

CarstenDutch 2010-02-01 20:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I've got a problem,Debian LXDE won't start up anymore after i clicked the Debian chroot too check it out.

Debian LXDE will hang and Xorg is hogging the cpu usage, i have too reboot.

Is this a mounting problem?

delaroca 2010-02-02 02:26

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Qole: doing "df -h" in the chroot puts out "df: no file systems processed"... is this related to the problems with fuser?

--denis

ravenblip 2010-02-04 13:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 380280)
I need some N8x0 testers too, report results over in this thread.

EDIT: New thread linked above. Go there instead.

Wow...I'm so interested in testing...but I'm a novice/freshman to maemo OS. Is there any link u can give me for to learn the basics of using Xterm?

qole 2010-02-05 01:16

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by delaroca (Post 506160)
Qole: doing "df -h" in the chroot puts out "df: no file systems processed"... is this related to the problems with fuser?

--denis

delaroca: I've noticed that problem too. It works on the N800, but not on the N900, so there's definitely something wrong on the Fremantle side. Again.

delaroca 2010-02-05 01:46

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 511243)
delaroca: I've noticed that problem too. It works on the N800, but not on the N900, so there's definitely something wrong on the Fremantle side. Again.

Humm? I could swear that when I installed easy debian on the N900, before the PR 1.1 update, that df was working... that is, I did the usual cycle of setting locales, doing apt-get update, etc, all the while checking for disk space available. Oh, well...!

--denis

born2wonder 2010-02-05 01:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by delaroca (Post 511263)
Humm? I could swear that when I installed easy debian on the N900, before the PR 1.1 update, that df was working... that is, I did the usual cycle of setting locales, doing apt-get update, etc, all the while checking for disk space available. Oh, well...!

--denis

Confirmed. I am certain it worked for me too before the update.

Shaq

attila77 2010-02-06 02:43

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I cobbled together a version of dm_loop for Fremantle. Please check (after it settles in extras-devel) if it's of any use in Easy Debian.

qole 2010-02-06 04:52

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
attilla77: according to Matan earlier in this thread, dm-loop doesn't add any speed to the loop; in fact he said it slowed down the loop slightly. His tests also suggested that the loop speed in Fremantle was very close to the hardware speed...

qole 2010-02-06 05:12

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
workaround for the df problem, add a / to the end:

Code:

df -h /

attila77 2010-02-06 08:02

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Yeah, I know, but it did feel faster for stuff on my microSD. Might be my microSD or placebo, don't know. Was working with RAID stuff (don't ask) so dmloop was a freebie...

leetut 2010-02-06 17:21

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
after a hard reset this stopped working so i reinstalled easy-chroot and easy-deb-chroot, and re doenloaded and installed the image, but when itry to lainch the app Debian chroot, all i get is this, any one know what im doing wrong?
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1213/screenshot11j.png

shanti 2010-02-06 20:40

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Just bought N900! Install Easy Debian! Thanks!
But I found some problem: when I leave LXDE session with Ctrl-bakspace and run "Fix LXDE keyboard" and return back, session leaves itself after few seconds, I can print maximum only around 10 letter before. I wonder if it happens only with me :)
If it is important - im using Easy Debian on 5Gb ext2 partition on SD, not image file.

bebox 2010-02-07 08:32

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do you think it's possible to add this theme ( http://nxy.in/ovuoi ) to Easy Debian ? if yes should be really fun :)

[DarkGUNMAN] 2010-02-07 11:28

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Has anyone managed to get FileZilla to install through Synaptic? come dependancies get a 404 error.

shanti 2010-02-07 18:05

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Is it possible to make Fn key pressing in Easy Debian the same as in Maemo. Now user need to hold Fn key constantly while pressing another key. But in maemo Fn press "saves" some time.

born2wonder 2010-02-07 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shanti (Post 514610)
Is it possible to make Fn key pressing in Easy Debian the same as in Maemo. Now user need to hold Fn key constantly while pressing another key. But in maemo Fn press "saves" some time.

Maybe this can help: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23921

Shaq

shanti 2010-02-07 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by born2wonder (Post 514620)

Yes, this works. Thank you.

born2wonder 2010-02-07 19:21

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shanti (Post 513501)
Just bought N900! Install Easy Debian! Thanks!
But I found some problem: when I leave LXDE session with Ctrl-bakspace and run "Fix LXDE keyboard" and return back, session leaves itself after few seconds, I can print maximum only around 10 letter before. I wonder if it happens only with me :)
If it is important - im using Easy Debian on 5Gb ext2 partition on SD, not image file.

As qole mentioned, try pressing the power button in LXDE and then tap outside it to focus the keyboard (fastest way) and check if you still face that problem.

Shaq

qole 2010-02-08 00:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by born2wonder (Post 514620)

Hey thanks, I had forgotten about that one! I should incorporate that into the next image.

Talking about a new image, I finally have figured out how to get sound working for the N900. See this post for more information.

I would still like to figure out why java doesn't work in the Fremantle chroot browsers, and hopefully fix it before releasing a new image.

megaexer 2010-02-08 13:47

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How I can install icewm on this LXDE? I tried to access a configuration script from command line (LXTerminal) but it says "Permission denied"... I even tried from X Terminal with root access but it's the same... Can anyone help

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXDE - ArchWiki
Replace Window Manager

OpenBox, the default window manager of LXDE, can be easily replaced by any one you like, such as fvwm, icewm, dwm and awesome... etc..

The window manager LXDE will attempt to use is defined this file:

/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/config

Per default this is defined as

[Session]
window_manager=openbox-lxde

Replace openbox-lxde with the window manager of your choice.

It might be also worth looking at:

/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default

These default settings however appear to be deprecated, as there is this note in the file:

! This file is kept for backward compatibility.
! Only used by obsolete lxsession, not lxsession-lite.

Anyhow, for example, somebody's /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default looks like this:

smproxy
openbox
lxpanel

smproxy is a program provided in xorg. It provides session management support for programs which don't know X11 R6 session management protocol. It is highly recommended you include this line in your desktop.


qole 2010-02-08 18:15

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
megaexer: use the red-swirl icon ("Debian chroot") in Maemo to get a root terminal. Using this, I was able to edit the /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/config file with no problems.

I'm not sure what advantages IceWM has over Openbox... Why do you want to switch?

megaexer 2010-02-08 19:20

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
It's weird but from chroot i still get "permission denied", it's incompatible? I downloaded icewm 1.3.6

icewm has nice themes at box-look.org, that's why I'd try it.

edit. I got it to work, downloaded it from Synaptic package manager

qole 2010-02-09 07:41

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
I'm on fire this week! :D

Got Java working in the browser again!

It seems to be tied to the "classpath" package. Still not sure what I did, though...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/...b4756277_o.png

rm42 2010-02-09 18:56

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OpenOffice.org 3.2.0 has been released. Wonder when will it be available on Debain (and Easy Debian).

http://www.ghacks.net/2010/02/09/ope...inal-released/

qole 2010-02-09 20:12

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Well I notice that they've completely pulled openoffice.org 3.1 from the squeeze and sid armel repositories, probably because of the bug we discovered.

They have 3.2 RC1 in the armel experimental repo. All the other architectures get RC5; I wonder why?

2disbetter 2010-02-09 21:16

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great stuff. Anyway to just get Open office, instead of all the other apps?

2d

qole 2010-02-10 04:39

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
So, not surprisingly, Java and GConf errors were both solved by downgrading all associated packages to their Lenny versions. This new image is shaping up nicely.

qole 2010-02-10 23:18

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Ok, so now that Java is working in the browsers again, what should I keep? Firefox/Iceweasel 3.5? Heavier but all the latest features... Or just Epiphany (gecko), lighter-weight, simple, useful for running Java applets, not much else...?

Should I include printing support (cups) and windows network support (samba)? What about a full-featured e-mail program? Thunderbird/Icedove 3 works in Easy Debian, although it suffers the same problems as many desktop apps on the N900; too cramped and a bit slow. Are there other, even more powerful e-mail apps available in Debian?

I am going to try LZMA compression for the next image. It seems that it is speedier to decompress than bzip2 while giving good compression. There used to be a post about this somewhere, but I can't find it!

shanti 2010-02-11 00:38

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Personally Im using only Iceweasel. Samba yes, it would be very useful.

aechelon 2010-02-11 01:34

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 475317)
taxaza: That error is harmless. It is an attempt to get pulseaudio working in the chroot. You can add a /var/run/pulse dir in your chroot and it will bind the Maemo directory there.

Hi All,

I had been hesitant about installing Easy Debian until yesterday, when VNC'ing into my N900 at 800x480 just wasn't cutting it any more. I now have Easy Debian up and running, and I'm now looking at a beautifully snappy 1920x1080 Blackbox through VNC.

Everything is working great, except audio. I've tried everything from mpg321 to Audacious (which is seg-faulting on startup :confused:) to Amarok (what a beast).

mpg321's output is as follows:

ALSA lib pcm.c:2162:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_alsa_dsp.so
ALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such file or directory
Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

rm42 2010-02-11 02:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Yes for Cups please. As for the browsers, I guess Ice Weasel (Firefox) would be my preference.

debernardis 2010-02-11 05:36

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
having both gecko- and webkit-based browsers could be useful at times.

maartenmk 2010-02-11 06:30

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
For me Easy Debian is for doing things that are not yet possible in Maemo 5, i.e. using OpenOffice & the Gimp. So (pdf) printing would definitely fit there, and I prefer Iceweasel. If possible with Flash, Windows media & Silverlight playback enabled. Although I think the last is not yet available for ARM is it?
Maybe a media player, if that is realistic...

qole 2010-02-11 07:17

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
debernardis: I have the gecko version of epiphany installed, since for some reason, webkit can't do Java. :confused:

PDF printing capabilities sounds like a good idea too. But you can already do that from OpenOffice without cups. Is there strong support for printing to something other than PDF? And is there something smaller than cups that will allow apps other than OpenOffice to produce PDF docs?

For those asking for Iceweasel: what specifically are you looking for? I'm just curious because I've found the built-in MicroB browser to be superior to Firefox on the N900 for most tasks...

I will be including lxmusic, a small music player that uses the xmms2 backend. It works fine.

[DarkGUNMAN] 2010-02-11 08:07

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
Please stick with Ice Weasel browser, as you get support for the main Firefox plugins. Support for Ice Dove would be good as well. If LZMA seems to be faster then it's always worth a go! SAMBA support would be very helpful as well as a good FTP client like FileZIlla :)

maartenmk 2010-02-11 10:35

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing
 
pdf printing is useful for printing webpages, such as e-tickets or order confirmations.
I would like cups support as well, but mainly for making the N900 more feature-complete, i don't think I'd acually use it. There is an enhancement request for adding print support to M5, the thread lists some reasons users have for wanting it. I believe it's a wontfix.


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