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dsawhney 2010-03-21 22:18

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berty (Post 576161)
All I want is press and hold to get the blue symbols. maybe I'll get my wish.

looks like this feature is going to be included in pr1.2 - https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5421

russo_br 2010-03-22 13:07

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Don't get too many hope about PR1.2 coming tomorrow...

Andre Klapper, who manages bugs.maemo.org, has already stated on this same thread at 15th March that the community hasn't yet received a test version to debug by that time, and there should be about 2 weeks between Nokia releasing this testing version and the actual deployment for general users, depending on the number of last minutes bugs to fix it.

pillar 2010-03-22 13:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Nokia released PR1.2 version of the SDK.

http://maemoteam.wordpress.com/2010/...e-5-available/

This, I can only think as a good sign that it might come sooner than later :)

Already upgraded my SDK and now ready for the firmware. Bring it on Nokia.

todor_tsankov 2010-03-22 14:04

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pillar (Post 577124)
Nokia released PR1.2 version of the SDK.

http://maemoteam.wordpress.com/2010/...e-5-available/

This, I can only think as a good sign that it might come sooner than later :)

Already upgraded my SDK and now ready for the firmware. Bring it on Nokia.

Please note that the release is marked as EA ( "early access" ) and is not the final version of the 1.2 SDK.

Robb 2010-03-22 14:09

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
That means new version will be 10.2010.09-3.

Which will be a 7 week difference from previous version (which was released 16 Feb).
Giving us a timeline of second week of April for PR 1.2.

Correct?

russo_br 2010-03-22 14:21

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 577143)
That means new version will be 10.2010.09-3.

Which will be a 7 week difference from previous version (which was released 16 Feb).
Giving us a timeline of second week of April for PR 1.2.

Correct?

This guess, although rational, can't be a fixed rule... The release of a new firmware can be influenced for a lot of reasons not related to the technical difficulties, like marketing, political, bureaucracy or even to wait for including a new functionality which is not ready yet (like Ovi Suite integration or Ovi Maps voice navigation)...

I understand Nokia has business reasons to not reveal details about its operation, but I am hoping that someday they decide to give the community more information about its roadmap, even without dates.

Robb 2010-03-22 14:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I think I don't like this release :(

If I read correctly they gonna remove:
1) gnuchess
2) maemoblocks

;)

naabi 2010-03-22 14:30

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 577169)
If I read correctly they gonna remove:
1) gnuchess

**** this game! I've played like 20 games, and get my arse seriously kicked every time on level easy...

Robb 2010-03-22 14:32

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Although good thing:

microb-engine from 20090612-49+0m5 -> 20091230-1.9.2-6.8+0m5

Looks like a half year difference.

JohnLF 2010-03-22 14:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
This thread is getting so old and tired. Can I make a suggestion?

Start a thread called something like "The FACTS about Maemo/MeeGo/Qt" and fill it with what we know. Make it a sticky so everyone will see it first, lock it down so it doesn't become yet another troll feast, and hopefully it will reduce some of the FUD traffic that is threatening to drown this site.

Any noobs posting a "should I buy / wait, what is meego, will PR1.2 allow me to run iPhone apps" type of questions should just be pointed to that thread with the known FACTS and told everything else is speculation - then hopefully their threads will die a little quicker.

Alternatively, I'll just start a "Speculation about PR1.3" thread now, and get in early.

*sigh*

Tomaszd 2010-03-22 14:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 577186)
Although good thing:

microb-engine from 20090612-49+0m5 -> 20091230-1.9.2-6.8+0m5

Looks like a half year difference.

Indeed, MicroB is going to get a newer engine. Should be even faster.

Jack6428 2010-03-22 17:19

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I can't imagine! It already is fast as hell... :)

NokiaRocks 2010-03-22 17:28

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 577464)
I can't imagine! It already is fast as hell... :)

That was my first thought too :D

toto29820 2010-03-22 18:00

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
trial version of meego end of this month, pr1.2 should be release before it. nokia put too many ?'s on the table.

sxg75 2010-03-22 18:12

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Speculation: Moving the Ovistore-Link to the Themes-setup dialogue interpretes as they are planning to release even more themes for N900 :D

Robb 2010-03-22 18:24

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sxg75 (Post 577569)
Speculation: Moving the Ovistore-Link to the Themes-setup dialogue interpretes as they are planning to release even more themes for N900 :D

Yeah, and even more clutter up the rootfs...

puiradu 2010-03-22 18:26

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
so, the 22 was out of the question!
let's see the next presumption who wanna try? i simplly had no clue about the release of the most expected firmware update.

casper27 2010-03-22 18:37

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I said week comencing 22nd in my original post and I am still sticking to that.
Tuesdays are always good days :)

Dave999 2010-03-22 18:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
nope. the release will be during next month(april).

So plz...no more speculation about release this month.

eitama 2010-03-22 18:50

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 577632)
nope. the release will be during next month(april).

So plz...no more speculation about release this month.

And you know this how?

daemonfin 2010-03-22 18:53

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
He doesn't.

Dave999 2010-03-22 18:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eitama (Post 577637)
And you know this how?

nokia said so, during a chat with swedish webpage:

Nokia: Hi! It is too early to say whether N900 will get MeeGo. But there will be more updates to the N900 regardless, back in April, a new. Ovi Suite is an essential software for us and we continue to advance the whole time. We do not share with us the schedule of upcoming features



http://www.mobil.se/articles/Lasarna...-1.338588.html

and google translate if anyone is intrerested to read the answers from nokia sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=sv&tl=en

Hossie 2010-03-22 19:22

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
I think this pic is appropriate here:

http://stuff.hossie.de/pot/omfgonoz.gif

;)

Ronaldo 2010-03-22 19:28

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 577649)
nokia said so, during a chat with swedish webpage:

Nokia: Hi! It is too early to say whether N900 will get MeeGo. But there will be more updates to the N900 regardless, back in April, a new. Ovi Suite is an essential software for us and we continue to advance the whole time. We do not share with us the schedule of upcoming features



http://www.mobil.se/articles/Lasarna...-1.338588.html

and google translate if anyone is intrerested to read the answers from nokia sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=sv&tl=en

tbh that could mean nothing since march is almost over if there is no update by next week it will be april (i know thats obvious but that hows the nokia answer comes across to me):rolleyes:

benny1967 2010-03-22 19:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 577649)
nokia said so, during a chat with swedish webpage:


http://www.mobil.se/articles/Lasarna...-1.338588.html

and google translate if anyone is intrerested to read the answers from nokia sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=sv&tl=en

thank you for this interesting link.

it confirms another information tha's unrelated to PR 1.2, but keeps popping up in this forum: they say they still can't quite deliver as much N900s as they would have to to datisfy the demand from the market - and they say that capacities in the factories have been doubled already.

rrdbala 2010-03-22 19:56

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 577649)
nokia said so, during a chat with swedish webpage:

Nokia: Hi! It is too early to say whether N900 will get MeeGo. But there will be more updates to the N900 regardless, back in April, a new. Ovi Suite is an essential software for us and we continue to advance the whole time. We do not share with us the schedule of upcoming features



http://www.mobil.se/articles/Lasarna...-1.338588.html

and google translate if anyone is intrerested to read the answers from nokia sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=sv&tl=en


This is really good. Thanks. It gives lot of info from Nokia.

xenkof 2010-03-22 20:07

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
According to the Maemo PR1.2 SDK which was released today, it's released for firmware version: 10.2010.09-3.
Since the last update PR1.1.1 was released on Feb 16th and has a version of 3.2010.02-8, it's safe to assume that the release is ready and should hit us by the end of this week.
A little late (8 days after version date for the 1.1.1), 11+ for this one, but maybe they wanted to give the SDK some headstart for porting/testing.

sygys 2010-03-23 07:46

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
here is the full list of changes in the new 1.2 release

http://www.sygysweb.nl/n900forum/vie...t=174&start=10

On page one of that thread you see some screenshots of new features.

efekt 2010-03-23 08:31

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
This is one of the best threads ever! :)
However, it is a known fact that the only one who knows EXACTLY when PR 1.2 will be available to download, is an old monk who lives in a remote and desolate place in the middle of Antarctica. Problem is, that this monk is mute, but this is exactly why Nokia tells him all their secrets, including PR 1.2 release date.
Moreover, there's a rumor that this monk also has a general idea on when PR 1.3 will be available too - what a well-connected monk he is!

fhofer 2010-03-23 09:43

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
How much free rootfs space do you folks think we will need?

Perhaps the root of the delay is that PR 1.2 is very large and Nokia is trying to figure out how to make it more compact so that users are not forced to reflash...

eitama 2010-03-23 09:45

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fhofer (Post 578377)
How much free rootfs space do you folks think we will need?

Perhaps the root of the delay is that PR 1.2 is very large and Nokia is trying to figure out how to make it more compact so that users are not forced to reflash...

That is the mother of all speculations :) Not bad!

ossipena 2010-03-23 09:55

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 577649)
nokia said so, during a chat with swedish webpage:

Nokia: Hi! It is too early to say whether N900 will get MeeGo. But there will be more updates to the N900 regardless, back in April, a new. Ovi Suite is an essential software for us and we continue to advance the whole time. We do not share with us the schedule of upcoming features

if you don't understand original language, stop quoting that.

yes, it is pretty near to correct meaning but not exactly. And it doesn't state if it is PR1.2 or something else.

so value of that source is pretty near zero.

bbin 2010-03-23 09:58

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 578384)
if you don't understand original language, stop quoting that.

yes, it is pretty near to correct meaning but not exactly. And it doesn't state if it is PR1.2 or something else.

so value of that source is pretty near zero.

Don't think it's about the source. It is more of the translation... There is nothing wrong with the source.

Robb 2010-03-23 10:12

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efekt (Post 578303)
This is one of the best threads ever! :)
However, it is a known fact that the only one who knows EXACTLY when PR 1.2 will be available to download, is an old monk who lives in a remote and desolate place in the middle of Antarctica. Problem is, that this monk is mute, but this is exactly why Nokia tells him all their secrets, including PR 1.2 release date.
Moreover, there's a rumor that this monk also has a general idea on when PR 1.3 will be available too - what a well-connected monk he is!

He uses his N900 to get all the news ... we just have to hack it, to now it all :cool:

ossipena 2010-03-23 10:15

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbin (Post 578389)
Don't think it's about the source. It is more of the translation... There is nothing wrong with the source.

really?

wouldn't be the first time with those chats that one rep makes stuff up.....

zehjotkah 2010-03-23 10:16

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb (Post 578404)
He uses his N900 to get al the news ... we just have to hack it, to now it all :cool:

sadly on his N900 is running Linux, so it's unhackable... :D

Dave999 2010-03-23 10:58

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 578384)
if you don't understand original language, stop quoting that.

yes, it is pretty near to correct meaning but not exactly. And it doesn't state if it is PR1.2 or something else.

so value of that source is pretty near zero.

what is the problem here mr? I just presenting the message from the chat. nothing more. nothing less. at least u got a source, which is more than most of the posts here. so its better than nothing

and I understand the original language. but in my mind they are talking about 1.2. men visst. som alltid bör du dra dina egena slutsatser. men läser du hela chaten nämns uppdateringen flera gånger, vilket får mig att tänka på 1.2, utan att de säger rakt ut att det rör sig om 1.2..

also,interesting since nokia almost never talk to users/readers.

F2thaK 2010-03-23 11:20

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 578408)
sadly on his N900 is running Linux, so it's unhackable... :D

its linux. you dont hack it, you make an app for it !! :D

zehjotkah 2010-03-23 12:06

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 578487)
its linux. you dont hack it, you make an app for it !! :D

I'm sorry, you misunderstood.
It's common to say hacking but mean cracking in germany.

I meant nobody can crack the monk's N900, because it's running Linux.

russo_br 2010-03-23 12:22

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2) and its release date
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efekt (Post 578303)
This is one of the best threads ever! :)
However, it is a known fact that the only one who knows EXACTLY when PR 1.2 will be available to download, is an old monk who lives in a remote and desolate place in the middle of Antarctica. Problem is, that this monk is mute, but this is exactly why Nokia tells him all their secrets, including PR 1.2 release date.
Moreover, there's a rumor that this monk also has a general idea on when PR 1.3 will be available too - what a well-connected monk he is!

Asking the monkey about PR1.4 release date then, please!! I heard it will add a feature of Teleportation to the N900... that's why they haven't launched Ovi Maps navigation, it won't be needed anymore!!!


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