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mikecomputing 2013-10-28 21:59

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1383006)
Or Tuner, which is an unique app! It's why I was playing around with libhildon1 on Harmattan - to get this app running :)

/edit: and it's much easier to "hildonize" gtk interface of an already-gtk app that to rewrite it in Qt.

mmm very good idea try porting fremantle/HildonUI apps to sailfishos/nemo NOT...

Just wonder how much time developers will use when for porting old libs and unusable UI, instead of just redo the app(s) for nemo/sailfish ui instead?.......

malkavian 2013-10-28 22:18

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Android aplicattions to monitor your exercise routes:

Endomondo
Oruxmaps

xdanx 2013-10-28 22:46

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Kontalk! http://www.kontalk.org/

genchigenbutsu 2013-10-29 00:54

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
It would be nice if Sleeper is exported to Sailfish. It's the timer app on the N9 that automatically turns off the music player. I use it daily.

Mikkosssss 2013-10-29 05:07

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by genchigenbutsu (Post 1383051)
It would be nice if Sleeper is exported to Sailfish. It's the timer app on the N9 that automatically turns off the music player. I use it daily.

If not ported you can probably do that from terminal command.

xerxes2 2013-10-29 21:04

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1382960)
I think GTK3 should be good to go as it should have mainline Wayland support. I would say some mucking with GTK3 packages from Fedora/OpenSuse in Mer OBS should do the job.

GTK2 is more complicated as it does not support Wayland, so XWayland will be needed first for it to work. Hacking it work directly with Wayland might not be an option, as at least GDK is directly using & exposing (I've actually used some of that in modRana :D) a lot of X stuff.

Still, GTK is IMHO not that suitable for mobile GUI development. Sure, it is possible, but it is quite a masochistic exercise, provided there are better suited alternatives available, such as Qt.

I got a bit curious about this so I tried to get GTK to work in Sailfish. Long story short, after upgrading and building the stack (glib, atk, gdk-pixbuf, cairo, pango, fontconfig, harfbuzz, wayland) under GTK which is needed for the newest GTK version (3.11.0), I finally got GTK to start compiling ... but then I hit this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710584

So once that bug is fixed GTK can be built on Sailfish. I'm not sure if the Sailfish compositor allows it to run though. But if it does I guess that GTK3 apps will at least run on Sailfish. GTK2 needs xwayland to run and that is another story ...

marmistrz 2013-10-30 18:08

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1383248)
I got a bit curious about this so I tried to get GTK to work in Sailfish. Long story short, after upgrading and building the stack (glib, atk, gdk-pixbuf, cairo, pango, fontconfig, harfbuzz, wayland) under GTK which is needed for the newest GTK version (3.11.0), I finally got GTK to start compiling ... but then I hit this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710584

So once that bug is fixed GTK can be built on Sailfish. I'm not sure if the Sailfish compositor allows it to run though. But if it does I guess that GTK3 apps will at least run on Sailfish. GTK2 needs xwayland to run and that is another story ...

Please comment the bug in the bugzilla and confirm it so that the developers might interest in fixing this.

xerxes2 2013-10-30 19:24

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Ok, I made a comment. But still, will be interesting to see if GTK works in Sailfish. Last time I tried not even raw QML worked. I was forced to use Silicas ApplicationWindow to get the app to run. This is the first time I'm using native Wayland so I'm not sure how windows works ... or if it's even called windows in Wayland. If GTK somehow can bypass the whole Sailfish UX? Anyway, if GTK works in Sailfish there will be some more apps that do not exist on other mobile systems and that must be a good thing. :)

Edit: And MartinK seems to have started to build the gtk stack here:
http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:...est_i586/i586/

But a few packages that already exist in Sailfish (glib, cairo, pango, fontconfig) will need to be upgraded to make gtk work.

marxian 2013-10-31 21:48

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
cuteTube on Sailfish: http://marxoft.co.uk/cutetube/sailfish/ :)

w00t 2013-11-02 12:31

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 1383429)
Ok, I made a comment. But still, will be interesting to see if GTK works in Sailfish. Last time I tried not even raw QML worked. I was forced to use Silicas ApplicationWindow to get the app to run.

It should most likely work. It won't be at all optimal or tested, but we don't require anything special.

m4r0v3r 2013-11-02 12:39

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1383665)

do videos run when minimized?

Dave999 2013-11-02 13:01

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1383928)
do videos run when minimized?

I think he said(last time I read this thread) something like that it won't for now due to performance and that he will wait for the device to see how the performance will be. We have to wait and see if its works or not :D

EDIT: FOUND THE POST...http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=382

pycage 2013-11-02 13:50

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1383930)
I think he said(last time I read this thread) something like that it won't due to performance and that he will wait for the device to see how the performance will be. We have to wait and see :D

Well, it's a dual core device, so performance should be way better than on N9 in these situations. Having Wayland instead of X11 helps as well.

dukeunreal 2013-11-05 12:03

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Hello, i think 500px app is would be greatfull for photographers.
and i think thay are would be happy to see this app on sailfish!
And me too)
Thanks!

v0id 2013-11-05 12:31

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Whatsapp obviouslly. But a nativ Sailfish client...not an simple Android port

onethreealpha 2013-11-06 10:50

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 1384481)
Whatsapp obviouslly. But a nativ Sailfish client...not an simple Android port

Item 2 in the first post.
Hard to find it buried there right at the top ;)

v0id 2013-11-06 12:19

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
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Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1384625)
Item 2 in the first post.
Hard to find it buried there right at the top ;)

:D
jus tried to point out my wish for a nativ client, not simple whatsapp/wazapp port

malkavian 2013-11-06 13:16

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 1384638)
:D
jus tried to point out my wish for a nativ client, not simple whatsapp/wazapp port

Then you are talking about the OFFICIAL client, and not a NATIVE client. I don't want it, because with it I cannot control my privacy as well.

davide445 2013-11-11 21:29

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Just want to give my hints, can't find any other place and hope Jolla will read here.

Want to have a replacement for my old Nokia E61i, so my better choice is to have the same app/feature I can find there

- calendar with integrated appointments and tasks
- notes with the ability of sort by creation date and extract phone numbers
- from the phone side a good conf call and speakerphone, really useful for business usage
- generic SIP client
- gps and maps (I've TomTom installed, but any with turn by turn navigation will be ok)
- the "home" screen need to be able to display today activities such as appointments or tasks
- morning alarm that can work also with shutdown mobile
- ability to easy turn on and off connections such as wifi
- contacts with many contacts details and the ability to import from Nokia format
- integrated messaging for SMS/email from many different mailboxes, such as exchange, IMAP, POP3
- VoIP such as Skype, GTalk, Whatsapp

E series was perfect for business usage, never find a replacement apart from BB but after testing q10 I finished using my old Nokia.

Lumiaman 2013-11-12 00:20

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Wow...you do bring up some dinosaur phones....E61i.....

Kabouik 2013-11-16 01:31

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
According to what was already known but reemphasized in latest article on Jollausers about (1) status bar and (2) 9 covers max, I really hope three things will come up from the community:

1. A Glance-like feature, i.e., LPM-ish screen for LCD (probably only part of the screen lit, and probably at very low intensity to save battery). JollaHQ confirmed that LPM-ish is possible on LCD screens, but I'd say they won't do it themselves. With a kind-of-LPS, it would be easy to keep track on clock, battery and missed events without having to touch the device. That won't replace a status bar, but it can be really helpful when driving/biking/running/being in a meeting (I hate having to touch my device to check such info when in a meeting, everybody would think I'm checking social accounts or that I need to check clock because the meeting is boring; without touch needed, you just look at the phone on the table).
# Might not be doable or relevant energy-wise if whole screen has to be lit, which is basically the case with LCD; don't know if a workaround could be imagined. Using proximity sensor to disable the display could save a significant amount of power though.

2. A way to rearrange/reorder running apps when in the "close list" view. This list already appears after a long-press on the multitask screen by default and show apps running, not only the 9 covers if I understand correctly. However, this screen doesn't allow rearranging those apps yet. Allowing rearrange/reorder would allow seeing all running apps at the same place (not just 9 on a view and the rest on another view) and deciding which ones are going to be displayed when back on the multitask view, even if some came to foreground because they were used/updated more recently. Some apps will have covers less interactive/useful than others too, so a way to lock the 9 covers displayed would be cool. And a way to directly maximize an app from the "close list". That way it would act as an Alt+Tab with less info than covers, but exhaustive, and default Sailfish behavior would be kept because you'd have to longpress to show that list. Horizontal swipes on the multitask view (9 apps/9 apps/9 apps/and so on/and you Jolla explodes at this point) would be perfect to be honest, but it seems more difficult to do and may conflict with other Sailfish gestures. Prev/Next buttons or scrollbars are alternatives too. I just add the "close list"-rearranging idea because a sailor said this could be imagined for a future update (could, no promises), so I guess it's technically doable.

3. A way to force new instance of an app. The 9-cover-system constrains apps to a single instance, except those that, in their pulley menu, have an option "new instance" like the Terminal probably. However, multiple instances of SMS or videos or file manager or emails (emails can be very useful in two instances actually) can be VERY useful. Could we imagine a special gesture to do on an app icon to force it starting up in a new instance instead of restoring the session that was already running? Could we take advantage of multipoint, like with a finger touching a corner of the screen while the other taps the icon?

Metsämies 2013-11-16 03:19

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1385713)
Wow...you do bring up some dinosaur phones....E61i.....

E61 is still better than poor Lumias. Multitasking, easily changeable ringtones (no pc needed), working bt etc.

jalyst 2013-11-16 06:15

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
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Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1386806)
E61 is still better than poor Lumias. Multitasking, easily changeable ringtones (no pc needed), working bt etc.

Please don't feed his off-topic nonsense*, just report him...
The last guy that responded to him, kindly deleted his post instead of feeding him.

*1st to admit I've done it, but mainly in the water-cooler threads

keithzg 2013-11-20 20:19

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1386797)

1. A Glance-like feature, i.e., LPM-ish screen for LCD (probably only part of the screen lit, and probably at very low intensity to save battery). JollaHQ confirmed that LPM-ish is possible on LCD screens, but I'd say they won't do it themselves.

This is one of the things that most depresses me about the move away from AMOLED; LPM is something I use and rely on daily. That being said, for at least while a phone is docked/charging, on Android DashClock accomplishes this fairly well after configuring some reasonable notification extensions. Hopefully something of the sort would be doable. Certainly with a community full of people who have grown used to what LPM on the N9 can do, there will be interest!

On the other hand, I guess we'll have to wait for custom Other Halves with wireless charging before the "set it down on the desk, it's charging and automatically goes into an LCD equivalent of LPM" becomes smooth.

OVK 2013-11-21 16:23

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Apparently Sailfish does not support contact or other data migration from old phones (except through some cloud based services): https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/403456505149542400

So I would like to see an application for dealing with imported .vcf files etc. so that I could transfer my contacts from N9. And something to deal with imported SMS messages etc.

kingstu 2013-11-21 17:27

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I would like simple audio messages to be part of messaging. As far as I can tell the N9 doesn't have a way to do that natively like symbian phones from Nokia did.

Dave999 2013-11-21 17:39

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I would like an app that change and replace swipes. Like if I swipe from left to right I get my favorite stock quotes updated, or my soccer result or an image of my girlfriend or what ever app I preselect.

marmistrz 2013-11-21 20:18

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
No idea whether written b4: bluemaemo!

xanderx 2013-11-21 20:30

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1387973)
I would like an app that change and replace swipes. Like if I swipe from left to right I get my favorite stock quotes updated, or my soccer result or an image of my girlfriend or what ever app I preselect.

I know the word "app" is extremely popular nowadays, but this gotta be core functionality. And I double that wish, would be nice feature.

kingstu 2013-11-21 21:44

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
I don't know if this was mentioned before but having separate user accounts so you can have a "guest mode" when lending out your phone or letting your child use it to play games would be nice to have.

TMavica 2013-11-22 08:31

All we need kernel power by pali and freemangordon

nodevel 2013-11-26 19:02

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
You can cross out Medard - I wrote a new app from scratch, taking advantage of Sailfish goodies like Pulley menus and Covers.

I will upload it to the store as soon as the SDK issues get resolved (like app naming scheme).

Dave999 2013-11-26 19:13

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
We need a Spotify application. We need a super solid audio book player. Wee need a would soccer score application we need a solid stock app. Also, hope to see python soon.

eamo 2013-11-28 14:40

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
we need a plex app http://plexapp.com/

Larswad 2013-11-28 15:02

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
the one and only: Subsonic client

I coded one for n900 that was never fully finished. Look into porting it, it was actually building on Sailfish OS, removed the phonon stuff and fixed some other qt5 changes.It started, but looked like crap using the qt standard theming, would need to code most parts in QML instead and use the Silica components. My subsonic support classes that did the main communication worked right off! It requested and received the album and song data perfectly.

Would anyone else like having a Subsonic client?
I'd love having help with someone that it more experienced with QML than me.

marmistrz 2013-11-28 17:55

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
A quizlet app.

rainisto 2013-11-28 20:33

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eamo (Post 1390139)
we need a plex app http://plexapp.com/

Android plex works quite nicely, (depending on codec of the video)...

Silwer 2013-11-28 21:01

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
This app working: http://racechrono.com/
I do not care if native or Android version, just need it to be working properly... :)

Elleo 2013-11-29 02:20

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1389156)
We need a Spotify application.

I've been porting CuteSpotify from Ubuntu Touch (which was itself a port of MeeSpot to Qt5):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0CBXylyjzA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaNDU2DCYAADwRG.png:large

https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/tree/sailfish

There were previous attempts from a couple of people at porting MeeSpot and QSpot but I have a feeling these were before the move to Qt5 and I haven't seen any more recent progress, so I decide to get CuteSpotify ported.

Unfortunately the emulator doesn't support sound, so I probably won't be doing any more on it until my device shows up.

Dave999 2013-11-29 02:42

Re: What Applications would you like to see on Sailfish Devices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elleo (Post 1390458)
I've been porting CuteSpotify from Ubuntu Touch (which was itself a port of MeeSpot to Qt5):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0CBXylyjzA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaNDU2DCYAADwRG.png:large

https://github.com/Elleo/cutespotify/tree/sailfish

There were previous attempts from a couple of people at porting MeeSpot and QSpot but I have a feeling these were before the move to Qt5 and I haven't seen any more recent progress, so I decide to get CuteSpotify ported.

Unfortunately the emulator doesn't support sound, so I probably won't be doing any more on it until my device shows up.

Elleo you are a rock!


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