Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1310373)

Have to disagree here since there are now more mobile devices than desktops and that will never change back.

Desktop is an old way of thinking. Microsoft has been losing that battle for quite a while. Distributed computing, or the term "cloud", is where folks are truly going and it's been successful for iTunes - you don't need a Mac to update, purchase or have access to their media offerings - and also Amazon with their App, Music and Video Store.

Desktops are not necessary because people are migrating away from them. Most people are using smartphones. Ecosystems need to be dependent of desktops.

That's where Microsoft is going way wrong. Apple even has embraced that.

Anyway, I think you're missing the point and that's why WP isn't taking off either.

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1310385)

You da man. Lets see how stocks perform! The ultimate decider!!

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1309923)

When was this?

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1310086)

IIRC this was Quims proposal in the old Lets Talk Nokia Stock thread.

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1310207)

My mistake... It was the Brink of Failure thread http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=175

The discussion actually goes on for several pages, albeit buried amongst the usual bull* that often results in threads being moved to Off Topic. ;)

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1310393)

Both Nokia and Microsoft are falling. Look at Google and Apple's stock. Amazon is... well, a mixed bag. So not exactly the best example there. Yet.

Originally Posted by ranbaxy (Post 1310444)

Nokia to sell mobiles business; sell assets to MS and Huawei in 2013 :eek:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1310461)

I doubt that, but does mapping included in the mobile divisions or in services? The map is one of the greatest things at NOKIA atm(low end phones as well). That would be great for almost every vendor to get their hands on that, except possibly google.

Any estimations of how many people working with maps and related stuff at nokia. Where is the main R&D for this located?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1310366)

Now, with regards to your worldwide comment on Nokia. That was the problem. Nokia became a third world manufacturer and was comforted to providing crappy service and products in the third world. But the march of androids and iOS was inevitable and the sweep of Symbian and Meego out of the third world. That was the big Nokia problem: complacent to sell third rate service and products in the Third world and losing competitive battle in more savy markets. So you are wrong on that point too. Instead, Nokia should have strived to be competitive in USA and to learn how to treat their customers well.

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1310437)

You don't remember this? It was the old "Nokia on the bring of failure" thread:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...33#post1194633

I just remembered raising my eyebrows when I'd read it the first time and wondering how THAT would end up--just to see them QUICKLY backpedal as soon as they realized their error. :)



You are totally full of WIN and AWESOME for correct recollection! :)



Amazon, intelligently, vastly diversifies and makes sure to maintain a strong hold over their strengths regardless of how the other divisions and projects of the company perform. That has worked out pretty well for them, keeping them buoyant while branching out.

Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1310476)

Yeah, that's right, America is the only developed country in the world :rolleyes:

You still haven't explained why NOKIA didn't opt for Android for us inhabitants of the third world though. We may have to walk for days in our rags and bare feet just to get a bucket full of dirty water but we're not so desperate we want Windows Phones.