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Always do, always follow my investments closly.

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Then you're wasting your damn time here. Nothing here is larger than life. It's quite utilitarian in almost every aspect.

Only a simpleton doesn't equate "larger than life" and "delivery" with money. It takes manpower, time and funding to deliver anything that's larger than life.

The approach here is the opposite. Meritocracy and community building the frameworks that get things done. Mer was announced during my N810 days. I was notoriously impatient and didn't have the foresight to see that Mer could be the basis for say something like Sailfish.

I think that you need to reassess what you want and if this community and branching technology that they're working on and have worked on might work for you.

I'd bet they do not. If the work here does appeal and would support your whims... why would you say so? So far, from what I've seen of your tirades, I'd venture to say you enjoy only the attention but nothing here would ever satisfy you fully.

And you're allowed. But 400+ posts about it - get a new note. Please.

Thanks quite kind of you.

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I simply like tech. Big or small companies. Like to follow the journey from start to finish plus I like to support new companies. Especially like when they deliver and the joy of all the community members.

Larger than life of the tech.

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Such as? Give an example of what has pleased you.

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Nokia n900

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You missed a zero. Or two.

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Heh, figured you'd list that out. Beside that one, list another.

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Note 1, the original gangster.

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Hmm, can't argue either of those choices, to be honest. I never liked the N900 despite owning it. It wasn't about what it could be extended to do - that was downright near limitless - but it was not a device that did what I required out of the box. Years later, it still isn't a device that I look back on fondly - my N810 was to me damn near the perfect device.

The Samsung Note 1 really cemented this entire phablet phase that we're still stuck in but brought along a stylus which the folks here seem to love.

At the end of the day, I think the Jolla tablet would have been wasted on you. It brings nothing new to the table whereas the N900 and OG Samsung Note did.

Perhaps your crusade can stop and your search for what's next and should be near and dear for you can start? Just something to consider.

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+ a big 1 to the n810...
Damn straight it is damn near perfect...
the keyboard really helped make it smooth...
(wish they'd kept the 2nd card slot from the n800 though...)
love my n810's and my n800's....
use mine every day...
in the shop...playing tunes..
at bedtime...playing more tunes...
watching film...
you name it...
tinkering away on them during the day is a joy...
absolute favourite 3 devices ever...(including the n900 that is...)

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OFC its wasted. Bought it to support jolla and to try it. I guess I have to get the new Ubuntu tablet. But in the end reasons is irrelevant. We all bought it so we deserve it equally.

didn't except jolla to be so careless...

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I don't think they were careless. They did gamble, but so many other companies do so - Microsoft gambled with the Surface twice, wrote off 900 million dollars, killed WindowsRT (windows for ARM devices) and yet... they remained profitable.

They're able to do so because of scale and size. Jolla couldn't gamble as such quite yet.

You can keep that anger. I have no more time for it. I'm looking for the "next big thing".

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What anger?

Gambling with the hands that feed you is potentially dangerous and can always backlash and hit you in the face. That was not the same as Microsoft did for obvious reasons. But hopefully Jolla refund all before this saga is over and get back some more supporters to their corner.

Let's focus on the Jolla Troublet.

Next big thing? I have already fund it :D

,

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Microsoft has always gambled with the hands that feed it. And now Microsoft has done all-in with Windows 10. It remains to be seen how that gamble goes.

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Correct. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

But I think you are forgetting one thing. The hand that feeds Jolla is not yours. The grand total contribution to the tablet project plus all the phones sold thus far was enough to sustain Jolla for about 6 months (based on an optimistic estimate of 30k phones sold for the average price of €300, the reality is probably a bit lower).

That means Jolla has a much bigger hand that feeds it. This is the hand they cannot afford to gamble with. If the owner of that hand says screw Dave, Jolla asks in what position.

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True. But the hand of the King will probably stop the flow of cash if many mini-me grassroots hands are screwed over and over again. Jolla must show that they can please end users to get more funds. We have the ultimate power, but we have so many different wills so we become irrelevant :D

Mean while I ordered: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/t...-price.427793/ great price. Get one while waiting for Jolla.

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When this sorry saga finally ends, or at least when all the backers have received their emails and committed an end result in one way or another, then that'll be the welcome end of the Jolla device business. It was worth a shot, but after NovaThor (still mourning what this might hav e been), the battery brown-outs and supply saga, the SIM card problem, the tablet screen replacement, the tablet factory switching and selling off, they've proved that little boats just can't weather those storms without hurting their customers.

I look forward to seeing what they can achieve in the field they excel at - developing and perfecting Sailfish OS for several different devices, and hopefully completing their store-approved API so developers can get the more out of that hardware in functionality and performance than any other OS on the market.

But I'm still REALLY interested to know if anyway gets a Taobao tablet... :D

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May be hard to order today. It's Chinese New Year!

Happy Chinese New Year to all at Maemo.org!

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Do Jolla still have the HK office ?
How many employees?

I think Jolla will come with explosive news at MWC. Hurry, get the fire extinguisher...

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So...I had one purchased for me from Tao Bao...I am currently at the hospital on call...haven't posted up here in a while due to my awful schedule...hope everyone is doing well. I received the tablet a week ago...the seller advertised 'Sailfish OS'...when I got home late from call, I immediately opened the package like a giddy fool. It is in actual jolla packaging, serial numbered, jolla branded, etc. I will start a new thread on it, but wanted to let everyone know on this thread as well. Then I booted it up...and...Android 4...not happy at all at that moment. So I quietly watched and planned to maybe send it back to my colleague who was able to buy it for me off of Tao Bao...now with the image up and a way to reimage the tablet, I want to try to do this after unlocking the bootloader...my issue is time restraints with my really bad schedule at the hospital and lab...I will post of photos here soon of the packaging and tablet...yes it was 32gb, not 64gb...

I ended up paying $200 with shipping included, b/c my colleague purchased and had it sent to his brother in China, who then sent it to me...very nice of them. I owe him some beers as well. :) Anyways, I will start posting more in the next couple days instead of 'lurking' b/c I sometimes just check the forums very quickly and then have to finish something else.

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Great! Thanks for posting and above all, proving me wrong. Keep looking around, there's been a few posts about how to get Sailfish back onto your device as long as it's not the Ango device.

And those "posts" do work btw.

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I was able to grab the 'jolla' file from baidu with the help of my colleague...yes, it took 24 hours to download...:(

I am pushing it up onto my onedrive, then I can share it with whomever needs it. It has a comprehensive guide on how to flash it to android...but I did not have to time to peruse all of the files for the sailfish os stuff...it did come with sailfish image for the tablet, so I will do a little more research on this, then start a new thread labelled 'Tao Bao Jolla Tablet' or something like that...put up the photos and a detailed guide on how to get your own lovely sailfish tablet...I am annoyed about the situation as well...I forgot to purchase the tablet off of indigogo, so I suppose it was a blessing in disguise. I never got the jolla phone b/c of lack of network support here in the states. So, I am somewhat new to Sailfish, and what I see so far, I am not as impressed as with the n900 or even the n9...but let's see how this tablet goes...:)

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When did the nameing convention switch to Ango?
After that chinese blog post i guess...

Is it that the chinese pronounce it like Ango or are we repeating a typo of some sort?

I mean, after all the official homepage states Aigo.

Also looking for ango only returns Tango or alike using various search engines ;)

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Good catch. It is a typo. This is where I got influenced: https://jolla.comes.today/jolla-tabl...china/?lang=en

Search for Ango on that link. It is indeed Aigo - but it's the one to watch out for. You cannot load Sailfish onto that device at all whereas the others that do have Jolla on the motherboard - which seems to come in the Jolla boxes, whatnot - can be flashed with Sailfish.

There's a Mega link in this thread, perhaps a page or two back. The downloads did indeed take like 18 hours on my end, but were not complete.

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Are you sure about that? :cool:

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Here it is again: Kim-Schmitz-kindly-hosts-the-Tablet-Firmwares
Had it in cache and did just ctrl-v ;)

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Anyone believes 540 tablets will be shipped before end of Feb?

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Totally sure.

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It would be something else, wouldn't it?

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Good luck! Here's to 121+400+540 Sailfish tablets in the wild!

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It can be don before next week as long the 540 tablets really exist. So now Joerg_rw did already made a deal with one of the biggest shippers in the world and now why cannot Jolla ship al these tablets?...

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They are rebuilding the company after losing about half of the crew. It takes time.

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Joerg_rw made a deal to deliver what exactly? And when?

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I'm not one to play the speculation game, but I do think Jolla should choose carefully when it comes to who they send their invites too now.

There has been a lot of folks wanting a refund or calling Jolla various names due to being disenchanted with their responses, we know this.

Now let's consider this idea, if one you were one of these people to get your invite from Jolla, would you day no? Or accept it then sell it on later as a rare device on ebay.

I foresee ~540 scalpers out there.

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I'm not so sure that would be a good idea.

Jolla: Instead of inviting backers to receive their tablets on a first-come, first-served basis, we have decided that we will attempt to second-guess what each backer may choose to do with the tablet once they recieve it.

Backers:

http://www.bucksketball.com/wp-conte...rk-torches.jpg

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At this point, I think Jolla should just give each backer a 1/2 refund, use a lottery to give out the remaining tablets, try to pay the rest later, and move on.

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I disagree.
I think ensuring the first backers (1000) get their is fair (iam not one of them)
PS i wont get anything. I already "signe out" and change my backing to a donation. Which, could be made another option.

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I think allocating them to the earliest backers will be the best way of minimizing scalpers. Those guys will likely be the ones getting scalped, and some already have been.

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I would ship it to mosen. Becouse he basically seems to be a nice guy to everyone.

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Well, probably doesn't matter how things are done in the long haul anyway. How did you change backing to donation?