Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Right! I will do in this way.
By the way, looking at the code, i saw that the assertion is inside FV_View::getTextBetweenPos function, which is called only by XAP_UnixFrameImpl::_imRetrieveSurrounding_cb function in xap_UnixFrameImpl.cpp

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I just had a question about what sort of bugs are worth filing in Bugzilla in a PM, and I thought it would be useful to share my answer with all of you:

"I would say, it's better to know about a bug and ignore it for now, than to have unknown bugs of any severity. File all of them (searching first for duplicates), and just set the severity - minor, normal, major, etc. Make sure to also set the platform (Nokia Internet Tablet) and component (Front End - Maemo for all of them, unless you know it also affects a regular build) and that will be fine. Once we have the bugs reported, then other people (the people who will fix the bugs, probably, which might even be you) will decide whether it's important enough to devote time to fixing right now."

PS. Right now I have 24 beta testers - are you all subscribed to this thread? Are those of you reading this thread willing to file bugs and help find and solve problems? I can still use more testers - just pm me!

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Guys, why you made it so complicated for your testers to install your software?
Why not just put it into extras-devel?

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Simple - I intentionally want it to be complicated until a couple of showstopper bugs are resolved. I can't in good consciousness put this build where someone who hasn't read this thread and esp. the letter I email to new testers with the known caveats might find it - a) it's not representative of AbiWord in general because the Maemo port has additional bugs. b) it has some fairly conspicuous flaws (onscreen keyboard doesn't pop up) and c) easy to find crashers/hangers which could lead to data loss, which I don't want to wish on anyone but rather only permit to those knowing about it going in.

That said, if you're fine with these caveats, I'd love to have your help. If not, then as soon as I can be reasonably sure that it works as you might expect it to I will get it into extras devel and extras. For now, I'm keeping the barely-gated community (I have something like 27 testers right now) of fully-informed folks, before releasing binaries that will probably outlive this thread. (Just think of how long people have been using that ancient 2.2.7 build, and you'll understand why I'm concerned about a public release before it's ready - you can't delete anything on the Internet)

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I'm not speaking about public release. Extras-devel repo is exactly for this kind of software, I believe. If you don't want abiword to show up in AM just don't put user/ in debian/control. But as far as it's in repo with all dependencies your testers will be able to install it with apt without any problem.
I still don't see any reason to keep it like that - splitted into half-built pieces.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Ah, that's a good point - I can use the component as a (hackish) way to do a halfway release, perhaps sooner than I had planned. It does remain, however, that if I do that, someone in red pill mode with extras devel (I'm guessing those might be highly correlated, but that's just a guess) could still find it without finding these warnings, and so my point stands.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I wouldn't be afraid of those who can install it in rpm(red pill mode :)) or with apt. They're not users but geeks, looking for this kind of chalenges, so may be your feature testers :)

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Can you post the new sources so that I can try to build the latest version that you are working on. The sources that are up are from January and therefore are outdated. Also if you could post just the source from the CVS for abiword-plugins, that would help me to try to experiment building abiword-plugins.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Check out https://garage.maemo.org/projects/abiword - check out the SVN module there and you'll find a README.txt file that shows you how to build the whole thing just like I do, right from the latest SVN sources. The command to check out AbiWord Plugins from SVN is:

svn co http://svn.abisource.com/abiword-plu...-2-6-0-STABLE/ abiword-plugins

(Same for the rest of AbiWord -just remove the word -plugins)
I don't recall offhand the command to check out from Maemo Garage. The way I'd like to see the packaging for the plugins structured is the same way it is for the main program - either actually integrated into the same set of debian files for the main stuff, or having a debian folder on Garage (inside abiword-ite module probably called debian-plugins) symlinked into the right place. You might want to take a look at the packaging of AbiWord by other debian-based distros to see how they do it, but make sureyou look at one with 2.5/2.6 (which might not be any yet) if possible, since there were a few small changes (names of the tarball directories - we now have separate tarballs instead of one big one with the subdirectories abi, abiword-plugins, abiword-distfiles, and so on)

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

OK, so I've done a bit of bug-database work and now have a priority tree of bugs before the release. If you file a bug and believe it is so severe (crash or hang in a common maneuver, basically), please note this in the description (making sure to mention the version of itos you're using) and I'll look at it and see where it goes.

For those of you wanting to help, here are the bugs to fix:
Dependency tree of bugs for 2007 release
Dependency tree of bugs for 2008 release

And, here's the link of all Maemo-only bugs