maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   OS2008 / Maemo 4 / Chinook - Diablo (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=29)
-   -   What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ? (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=17727)

pixelseventy2 2008-04-01 19:35

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 163434)
I've used kinetic scrolling before. Regardless of the implementation, it sucks. This better be an option I can turn off because that's seriously a showstopper in my eyes.

A little harsh, maybe, though I've never seen a very good implementation either. I can never get the damned things to stop where I want to :(

Benson 2008-04-01 20:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Well, the specs are simple enough; a good implementation would let you set the thing flying, then when you touch it, would quickly (but not quite instantly) brake, and wouldn't take off again if you lift fairly straight off.

The latter is the typical problem; it's exacerbated by the nonlinearity and assymetry of a finger-screen interface. When you lift your finger straight, the centroid (as measured by a touchscreen) moves. Appropriate magic to disregard this motion and catch all deliberate flicks without feel degradation is difficult, to say the least.

But my biggest complaint is the same as for kinematic scrolling; the scrolling area usually overlaps the interaction area, so a drag thought better of becomes a click, and a click smeared a little becomes a drag.

sirhunter2010 2008-04-02 17:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 154120)
It doesn't look like anything of the sort. Sure, Intel is pushing the lower-power x86, but they're still nowhere near the efficiency of the ARM stuff. It'll be at least another year before they can match it (probably more), and you can be certain that TI isn't gonna be sitting on their hands with the OMAP stuff while Intel is trying to catch up.

Besides, Nokia has a huge investment in ARM and OMAP, and a very strong relationship with TI (as I've mentioned in other threads). They get huge volume discounts on the OMAP stuff with because of their phones, and they know the OMAP. These are not things you throw away lightly for what amounts to a less efficient, and more expensive processor lineup targeted at larger and more expensive devices (the MIDs are somewhere between the NITs and the UMPCs) that you don't really have any experience with.

No, Nokia isn't dropping OMAP anytime soon.

General,

Are you a Nokia employee, Nokia shareholder or both? :D

Crouching Hamster

Texrat 2008-04-02 17:12

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
To continue the General's point: TI has recently developed mobile CPU technology (with MIT I believe) that reduces the power consumption to 1/3 typical existing for the same performance. That is significant. I expect that improvement to make it into ARM or a successor. In addition, new small battery tech that dramatically increases storage efficiencies is 3 years from market. We're close to a big leap in capability, boys and girls... :D

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-02 17:15

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirhunter2010 (Post 164006)
Are you a Nokia employee, Nokia shareholder or both? :D

None of the above.

fpp 2008-04-02 18:00

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Just a guy who uses his brains well, and writes down his thoughts clearly.

Very disconcerting for most other normal people, certainly.

Texrat 2008-04-02 18:08

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 164048)
Just a guy who uses his brains well, and writes down his thoughts clearly.

You meant me or Benson, right? Not that ranting GA guy.

fpp 2008-04-02 21:00

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Sorry, Tex : Benson and others are certainly in the same league, but the permanent NDA you're operating under means you can't fulfill the second part of the sentence :-)

Texrat 2008-04-02 21:05

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
LOL! Arg, ya got me.

Next time I'm passing through Charles DeGaulle I'm gonna tell security that you're a "person of interest".

:p

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-02 21:14

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 164162)
Next time I'm passing through Charles DeGaulle I'm gonna tell security that you're a "person of interest".

Sadly enough, that sort of **** works these days. :\


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:12.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8